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Peter Molyneux is a Cupcake • Page 17
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Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoBut those are constantly moving goalposts that are largely within the control of the lead on the game ie Peter Molyneux.
The only thing that wasn't, from that interview, was the networking side of the game. That doesn't have much impact on the game mechanics, art, design or 90% of other costs.
it's clear he loves to do the design as he goes along, that's both costly and messy if there's noone to control him. -
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Registered 17 years agoNot really. If you know that something is likely to over-run you factor that in to your budget and timescale as a contingency, building in gaps for slip, critical paths and all that malarky and also for what gets cut out or where the extra funds come from. In this case the extra funds were a publisher, a route that was claimed wouldn't be pursued.
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How can you possibly get an idea of 'shouting' from a transcript?
He never said what you're accusing him of. I've read it twice, and I believe what he actually gets out of PM, is an eventual admission that he purposefully set a KS goal which he knew was probably far too low. Which isn't an issue, as he previously said he was after feedback, rather than money to create Godus. Except then that too was also admitted to be bullshit.
The WHOLE interview is about pushing a pathological liar (purposefully or not, is the only debate) into facing up to what he's lied about.
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Registered 7 years agoYeah, I'm not sure where you got that he shouts at him. -
Unclebenny 841 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI'm not really comfortable with everyone labelling him a pathological liar. Maybe if we were all psychologists I'd be down with it. I ceartainly wasn't comfortable with the interviewer doing it. He ceartainly had the right to ask the questions he did but lets leave evaluating the mans state of mind out of it. -
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Registered 18 years agoH1ggyLTD wrote:
Pot and kettle.
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2015/02/19/tim-schafer-stands-peter-molyneux -
re: the costs thing. i think what walker was getting at is: given that all molyneux's games have come in late, why would he knowingly set such an ambitious development timescale (8 months or whatever)
i think the accepted truth is that he set the time to get money, rather than set expectations, which is pretty much molyneux's problem summarised; he's a salesman, not a project manager, even when he needs to be both.
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Dirtbox 92,599 posts
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RyanDS 14,074 posts
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Registered 13 years agoAlso Schaffer is not defending Peter there, rather he is saying the attacks on him are a bit OTT. -
Tonka 31,980 posts
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Registered 18 years agoDirtbox wrote:
Yeah, I guess re-realeasing point and clickers in 2015 counts as creativity and imagination.
They're easily the most imaginative and creative developers around right now. -
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Registered 20 years agoTonka wrote:
Well yes, because in the world of iPad gaming, they've had to do basically do away point&click and rebuild for a new paradigm - tap.
Dirtbox wrote:
Yeah, I guess re-realeasing point and clickers in 2015 counts as creativity and imagination.
They're easily the most imaginative and creative developers around right now. -
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Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI think when we've gone as far as describing Good Ol' Pete as a "psychopath" we might have ever so slightly jumped the shark. -
Jeepers 16,616 posts
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Registered 16 years agoI heard that he also touches animals inappropriately. -
Phattso wrote:
ha maybe, maybe not.
I think when we've gone as far as describing Good Ol' Pete as a "psychopath" we might have ever so slightly jumped the shark.
lying, manipulation are all hallmarks. And people saying the reaction is ott. The fucker basically lied to get half a million quid. -
Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 18 years agoNot that it's OK, but this shit goes on ALL THE TIME in all sorts of industries. He's a bit slimy, no doubt, but let's keep it in proportion eh?
If anyone on the Kickstarter feels violated, they're free to attempt to prosecute. They won't get far. It's immoral, not illegal. He did it because it's possible to do it, and he'd managed it time and again.
Feel how you want, but you might want to take a teensy step back..gif)
"Psychopath"? "Not a real person"? Seems like you're unnecessarily vilifying him here. It's a caricature of a reaction. He's been outed, he'll never be taken seriously again. Job done. -
Is Peter even lying though? Seems to me he believes everything he says and promises. You only have to speak to the guy for 5 minutes to know he's passionate about making these wild and wonderful games that are flying about in his head.
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Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 18 years agoOn the "it'll take nine months to make Godus" front, even a fresh grad would tell you that's utter horseshit. Even building it in that time would be tough, much less balancing, debugging, porting, etc. etc.
After 30 years making games it's a no-brainer to say that nine months is too short. Fuck, even "just" a mobile game takes upwards of six months to make.
So there's a special sort of self-delusion at work there if he ever though that would be doable. That said, if the team is fucking stupid enough to go along with it... yeah. -
The times are immaterial, and no one cares it's late, most games are.
The offensive lies are it's a mobile centric, microtransaction piece of shit dressed up and presented as a proper game, as sleazy as a pyramid scheme. -
Phattso 27,426 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI don't care if people care, I'm getting to the heart of what was a very knowing falsehood uttered by the man. The time is telling in that regard.
The rest, as I've already said, is slimy. No argument. But psychopath? Nah. -
Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoPathological liar not psychopath. -
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Unclebenny 841 posts
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Registered 14 years agoreviewer wrote:
Again, which of us is qualified to make that assessment?
Pathological liar not psychopath.
Can we not just criticise him without having to attach unfounded labels?
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Dirtbox wrote:
This is my view on it as well really.
He's not, he's just surrounded by yes men and believes his own hype.
I'm still cringing at John Walker's "are you a pathological liar" opening question. I think I understand *why* he asked that - I hear Molyneux is charming but controls interviews well and John wanted to throw him off that. Still though, I felt myself shrink back into my seat while reading it.
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