Following Bye bye review scores Page 8

  • BigOrkWaaagh 10 Feb 2015 15:55:04 10,554 posts
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    GiarcYekrub wrote:
    If it helps this is my list of Top 10 all time Essentials, games that I think are pure gaming ambrosia, regardless of who you are:

    Resident Evil 2
    Goldeneye
    Ocarina Of Time
    Lylat Wars
    Final Fantasy 7
    Mass Effect Trilogy
    Command & Conquer: Tiberium Sun
    Soul Blade
    GTA V
    Lemmings
    A fine list, except for FF7.
  • Kichijoten 10 Feb 2015 16:03:39 4,555 posts
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    Bring back scores! Just trying to be hip are we EG. The old days were the best.

    GRAPHICS
    91
    SOUND
    88
    LONGEVITY
    90
    GAMEPLAY
    89
    OVERALL
    90.

    Reviewers getting lazy. :)
  • Rivuzu 10 Feb 2015 16:05:32 18,424 posts
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    Pretty shit list actually. Mass Effect, but it's GiantRapist, so of course he'll rate that high. Same for GTA.

    But Tiberium Sun over StarCraft? Goldeneye? ResiEvil 2? "Top 10 of all time" on games that are over 10 years old maybe. And SOUL BLADE?! Over the far superior Soul Calibur 1? I'd even take SoulCal2 at a stretch.
  • SolidSCB 10 Feb 2015 16:14:48 16,771 posts
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    While the idea is sound, I think EG are misunderstanding that it isn't so much the scores, but the words that are written that are the problem on here. EG reviews are actually what put me off reading reviews in the first place, usually meandering off onto some sort of pretentious tangent. That isn't to mention their penchant for using spoilers in their reviews, explaining away entire sections of a game with all the subtlety of a brick in the face.
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 16:16:41
    To be fair when compiling any sort of list it will almost always be based on a certain period. In the case of games we will all think the greatest were from a certain period.

    For example I'm 30 and so the N64 has a special place in my heart. Most of my greatest games ever will be from that era such as Ocarina of time, no doubt someone a bit older will pick all time classics from the NES era. Which while I had a NES I was to young to fully appreciate it.

    Oh and about review scores, I think the reasons given on the front page make sense. Games are too complicated to be distilled to a number, as mentioned how do you offset broken servers and bad storytelling vs solid mechanics or fun ideas?

    Edited by Sharzam at 16:19:13 10-02-2015
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 16:21:43
    Goldeneye. Has Not Aged Well.
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 16:21:49
    Errol wrote:
    Every 90%+ game has been stunning - without exception.

    Any game in the 80-90% spectrum has been very good, but not at the very highest, 'work of genius' etc level.

    Games with less than 80% were always more niche or to be considered only if you really like that particular genre or area.
    If only they had kept some sort of way to distinguish between these, say a marker or a label of some kind.
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 16:24:19
    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    Goldeneye. Has Not Aged Well.
    I think that's a bit of an understatement. It's borderline unplayable now, even if you do some fiddly emulation trickery to have it play with dual analogue.

    As for Tiberium Sun, that's not even considered the best game in the C&C series, let alone in a list of "all time classic games".
  • Not-a-reviewer 10 Feb 2015 16:26:32 7,686 posts
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    smoggo wrote:
    GiarcYekrub wrote:
    If it helps this is my list of Top 10 all time Essentials, games that I think are pure gaming ambrosia, regardless of who you are:

    Resident Evil 2
    Goldeneye
    Ocarina Of Time
    Lylat Wars
    Final Fantasy 7
    Mass Effect Trilogy
    Command & Conquer: Tiberium Sun
    Soul Blade
    GTA V
    Lemmings
    Mass Effect? What are you fucking smoking pal?
    I can't stand half of that list and the other half are meh.

    Edited by Reviewer at 16:26:50 10-02-2015
  • spindle9988 10 Feb 2015 16:30:33 5,222 posts
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    Gremmoo wrote:
    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    Goldeneye. Has Not Aged Well.
    I think that's a bit of an understatement. It's borderline unplayable now, even if you do some fiddly emulation trickery to have it play with dual analogue.

    As for Tiberium Sun, that's not even considered the best game in the C&C series, let alone in a list of "all time classic games".
    I tried to play goldeneye recently. Couldn't even make it past the opening level
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 16:37:24
    They do need to move the Recommended tab over to the left a little bit though, it's throwing my muscle memory off.
  • BigOrkWaaagh 10 Feb 2015 16:37:56 10,554 posts
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    Right, they've got rid of review scores. Fine, whatever. But now the Forum button is no longer the end button at the top there. When will it end?!
  • wrinkly 10 Feb 2015 16:39:31 3,721 posts
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    What we have here is a failure to communicate.
  • Armoured_Bear 10 Feb 2015 16:42:36 31,234 posts
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    I can't decide if Burkey is the most amazing troll ever or the most incredible silly billy the forum has even encountered.
    Mario Kart 8 being pretentious twaddle is genius or insanity.
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 16:43:09
    I think his definition of "pretentious" means "anything I don't like much".
  • nickthegun 10 Feb 2015 16:43:53 87,711 posts
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    Rivuzu wrote:
    Pretty shit list actually. Mass Effect, but it's GiantRapist, so of course he'll rate that high. Same for GTA.

    But Tiberium Sun over StarCraft? Goldeneye? ResiEvil 2? "Top 10 of all time" on games that are over 10 years old maybe. And SOUL BLADE?! Over the far superior Soul Calibur 1? I'd even take SoulCal2 at a stretch.
    Your problem there is that the intro to soul blade, technically, makes it the best of the series if not the best game ever.

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  • nickthegun 10 Feb 2015 16:46:40 87,711 posts
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    I bet EG are delighted that this opportunity to gauge audience opinion of a seismic shift in how they operate has once again devolved into another thorough dissection of how much of a maladjusted weirdo burkey is.
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 16:52:59
    I AGREE with getting rid of the 'out of ten' score system, but I must admit I dislike the replacement.

    IMO it should be a five score system.

    1- Very Bad
    2- Bad
    3- Average
    4- Good
    5- Very Good

    Thats clear cut.
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 16:54:32
    That's just a slightly more vague version of the 10 point system.
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 16:55:34
    Raiko101 wrote:
    That's just a slightly more vague version of the 10 point system.
    Was that towards me? If so, whats so vague about it?
  • Fake_Blood 10 Feb 2015 17:04:07 11,093 posts
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    I think Bramwell was the only one keeping the weed out of EG towers.

    You can't like put a score on art maaaaaan
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 17:04:54
    What about just having a GIF at the end of each review with the reviewer giving their score via the medium of dance
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 17:25:40
    3 ratings, two of which mean buy and only 1 means don't buy.

    So we're going to see almost every game get recommended or above with the odd rarity getting an avoid.

    So even this is quickly going to become utterly meaningless within the space of a few weeks.

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  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 17:27:50
    Recommended = "they're games that would have been scored at the high end of the old scale"

    Avoid = "rests at the opposite end of the spectrum"

    What's the in between then, no award at all?
  • Deleted user 10 February 2015 17:28:38
    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    What about just having a GIF at the end of each review with the reviewer giving their score via the medium of dance
    +1
  • JYM60 10 Feb 2015 17:29:55 19,085 posts
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    MrTomFTW wrote:
    JYM60 wrote:
    Seems stupid.

    I only look at the scores on EG reviews. Rarely ever read them. Probably many people do the same.
    You're right, that does seem stupid.
    I'm too busy reading Jane Austin novels.
  • RyanDS 10 Feb 2015 17:33:42 14,074 posts
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    4 ratings people.  Not 3. It is not complicated.
  • CosmicFuzz 10 Feb 2015 17:35:16 32,632 posts
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    Pinky_Floyd wrote:
    Recommended = "they're games that would have been scored at the high end of the old scale"

    Avoid = "rests at the opposite end of the spectrum"

    What's the in between then, no award at all?
    Yes. Not every game gets a sticker.
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