Following Bye bye review scores Page 18

  • shamblemonkee 23 Feb 2015 17:28:13 17,967 posts
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    Cappy wrote:
    shamblemonkee wrote:
    @Cappy I dont understand that - if it was a ten before you'd have had to click through to find out the score. Now it's badged up-front.
    It's pretty easy to understand.

    It seems quite a few of us check the review score first to decide if the review is worth reading.

    Genre you don't like + Bad review score = No read

    Genre you don't like + Great review score = Take a look
    So now the game is badged essential or reccomended on the front page and top of the review. So its made life easier for you. I understood what you said not the logic behind it.
  • twelveways 23 Feb 2015 17:29:12 7,131 posts
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    I purchase my games based on the taglines on the front page.
  • Deleted user 23 February 2015 17:37:13
    everyone else: i purchase my games based on an impossible-to-articulate algorithm i have devised to decrypt increasingly meaningless x/10 videogame scores. i want to protect this situation, for some reason.

    Edited by bobomb at 17:37:36 23-02-2015
  • KRadiation 23 Feb 2015 17:38:20 1,743 posts
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    My purchases are based on the first comment on each review so I don't know why I'm in here discussing this to begin with.

    Edited by KRadiation at 17:39:06 23-02-2015
  • Cappy 23 Feb 2015 17:43:48 14,394 posts
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    TarickStonefire wrote:
    Cappy wrote:
    You're still not addressing the reviews that get no rating.

    The unrated category will be where a lot of the best and most interesting games end up considering what happened with the 1-10 scale.

    It's just easier to go elsewhere for reviews.
    You mean it's easier to have an opinion of a complex piece of software boiled down to a number so you don't have to read?

    I think you're better off at IGN, pal.
    Rather than ditching review scores I think what we really needed were some basic comprehension tests for forum members, special chaps like yourself could just go on global ignore and I wouldn't have to see you attempting wit.

    It's a question of what to read, rather than not reading at all. Evidently you're a fan of reading, but not a fan of understanding.

    Since I use Metacritic I'm seeing the scores first and the reviews are selected because they fall in particular score ranges, as I previously stated I'll read a few of the harshest, lowest scoring reviews first, then I'll select reviews from other parts of the marking scale if I'm still interested.
  • Deleted user 23 February 2015 17:45:56
    Why are you still trying to apply review scores out of ten, when we've repeatedly been told these don't correlate?
  • Ultrasoundwave 23 Feb 2015 17:46:08 6,440 posts
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    Just read the Order review and I really don't understand this whole "no opinion/blank" review score thingy?

    Using my limited intelligence, I am able to understand 'Avoid', 'Recommended' and 'Essential' but, in my opinion, they really need a label for that middle tier.

    'Mediocre'?, 'Average'?, 'Disregard'?
  • Deleted user 23 February 2015 17:46:52
    Also: Cappy, if you're using Metacritic, this thread is redundant to you, as EG no longer feeds into the aggregator

    Edited by PES_Fanboy at 17:47:10 23-02-2015
  • Deleted user 23 February 2015 17:48:51
    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    Also: Cappy, if you're using Metacritic, this thread is redundant to you, as EG no longer feeds into the aggregator
    Thats just the UK one. EG Poland and Italy do IIRC (I'm sure I saw them on The Order page).
  • Deleted user 23 February 2015 17:50:09
    Right, so read the Polish and Italian reviews. What do you mean, they're written in foreign?
  • Deleted user 23 February 2015 17:50:39
    COMING OVER ERE, RATING OUR GAMES OUT OF TEN
  • Deleted user 23 February 2015 17:51:12
    I'm just correcting your statement, sorry.
  • Cappy 23 Feb 2015 18:05:58 14,394 posts
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    PES_Fanboy wrote:
    Also: Cappy, if you're using Metacritic, this thread is redundant to you, as EG no longer feeds into the aggregator
    I often buy old games so I still see plenty of EG reviews.

    Even if I weren't, expressing the opinion that no scores isn't working for you isn't redundant in the context of this thread.
  • JoelStinty 23 Feb 2015 18:41:07 9,530 posts
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    i think the new system is fine. Saying that i always had taken more from the text then then numbers.

    The no catergory score is fine as well. All games bar a couple are comepetant. So it just a case of reading the text and seeing is there is something that you might enjoy out of it. The order for example, seems like a good rental game. It has elements of games and settings i like, but it not overally great.

    The whole 'I won't buy a game because it received said score is silly'. How many games are you going to miss that you might enjoy? At least the text conveys the game in some regard. As i see it the recommended and essential tags are just tags - stuff that most people will enjoy, but not for everyone. Think of it has curation.
  • mingster 23 Feb 2015 18:53:09 3,489 posts
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    I used to enjoy guessing the score by just reading the tagline under the games name on the front page.
    I had done this for over 10 years.
    Can't anyone feel my sense of loss?
  • jimlufc 23 Feb 2015 19:55:00 125 posts
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    I can't understand dropping scores at all.

    I'm generally a very busy person. I might have a few minutes a day to browse sites such as this. I haven't got time to read every single review word for word.

    I've ended up buying countless games in the past because I've scrolled down, seen a nine or ten and then read the review. The way US Gamer present their scores alongside a mini review which takes a minute to read is brilliant. You either then read the full review or decide you've seen enough.

    I think this decision, whilst widely lauded, makes is easier for Eurogamer to avoid upsetting important advertising partners which is probably the real reason for it.
  • iancognito 23 Feb 2015 19:56:44 2,476 posts
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    Hope that post didn't take you too long ;)
  • jimlufc 23 Feb 2015 19:58:12 125 posts
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    @iancognito "generally" being the key word.
  • Deleted user 24 February 2015 00:48:46
    @jimlufc But the new system does just that, doesn't it?
    Essential = definitely read + seriously consider buying at full price.
    Recommended = probably read + possibly wait for bargain depending on how much it appeals to me.
    Nothing = quickly glance at some screenshots and short videos first, if it appears to be my cup of tea, investigate a bit more.
    Avoid = possibly read the review just for shits and giggles.

    That's how I see it anyway. Scores only lead to endless bickering about how a 7 should really have been an 8 or rather a 6 and yadayada.

    Plus, thanks to Metacritic, they're bad business for reviewers: people don't even bother going to the original sources anymore, let alone read the reviews. They look at the consolidated scores and a few quotes/excerpts and decide based on that, even though Metacritic's system is dubious at best.
  • mingster 24 Feb 2015 10:14:40 3,489 posts
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    JoeBlade its the nothing category that is rubbish.

    Take Qbert today read strapline '@!#?@!' think ohhh could be rubbish maybe a 2 or a 3.
    Go to review. No score. Look at pictures. looks like Qbert always did.
    Absolutely no way you getting me to watch a video. Look at last paragraph.
    Has no leaderboard ok i'm out.
    So what was the point of all the other writing it was just guff.

    The whole system should be Frontpage - read 3 / 4 word strapline - guess score - check score. Decide if want to read wall of text.
    Anything else is a waste of time.

    Yes Essential means a definate read.
    Yes Avoid is a definate read.

    Its how do you get people to read all the dross inbetween a 1 & 10.

    Eurogamer reviews have always been about the genius correlation between the strapline and the review score.

    Edited by mingster at 10:18:17 24-02-2015
  • mingster 24 Feb 2015 10:19:03 3,489 posts
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    twelveways wrote:
    I purchase my games based on the taglines on the front page.
    Exactly!
  • twelveways 24 Feb 2015 10:19:20 7,131 posts
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    From the Q-Bert review, just under the banner picture:

    A middle-of-the-road remake let down by twitchy control and a lack of arcade features.
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