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Badges = opinions = subjective Badges are not numbers numbers appeared to be objective qualitative ratings but weren't Trying to convert badges into numbers is a reductive exercise going against the entire point of the badges and reintroducing the fundamental issue of numbers never being able to reflect a subjective opinion. |
Bye bye review scores
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cov 2,524 posts
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mrpon 37,367 posts
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Registered 15 years agoeight out of ten? -
Its going to be human nature for people to try and 'guess' the number on a review, which is why that any games 'unbadged' will be given a slightly injustice IMO. -
Kosmoz 8,184 posts
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Registered 14 years agoPeople really will argue about anything, won't they? -
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cov 2,524 posts
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Registered 18 years agoNo that's inertia from having had review scores and will become less of an issue as time goes on.. simple nature of change, even if it's the right change people cling to what they knew even if it was flawed
However you are right in that there will always be a core of people who want to be told what to think, ironically often the same ones who then violently disagree with a score because that is the nature of reviews - they are subjective opinions and any overview of a subjective opinion should be a guide or indicator not a metric
I recommend, I like, I don't like
not it is good or bad
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Ultrasoundwave 6,440 posts
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Registered 11 years agoTarickStonefire wrote:
Yeah they definitely need something - whoever decided that they would have a rating that is literally nothing needs to be sacked.
Ultrasoundwave wrote:
I kind of agree with you. Seems just confusing to not have one, when by not having one they essentially do have one, it's just invisible apparently. Mediocre, average, maybe 'Middle Of The Road' or 'Nothing Special'.
Just read the Order review and I really don't understand this whole "no opinion/blank" review score thingy?
Using my limited intelligence, I am able to understand 'Avoid', 'Recommended' and 'Essential' but, in my opinion, they really need a label for that middle tier.
'Mediocre'?, 'Average'?, 'Disregard'? -
It's not a rating system -- it's a recommendation system. In the case of The Order, the game was neither given a recommendation, nor was it designated as something that should be avoided. Seems pretty clear to me. -
Rivuzu 18,424 posts
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Registered 15 years agoGuys, stop whining about the lack of numbers and just accept it for what it is.
A chance for EG towers to waffle verbose with similes and witty metaphors about a game whilst completely missing the point of giving it a review on how it plays, what it achieves and what it lacks, and recline on their mountain of swank whilst sipping G&T's from a fairy's excavated skull.
Article in question? Sunless Sea review. -
cov 2,524 posts
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Registered 18 years agoYou know when a friend asks you whether they should get a game and you say it depends what you like - that's it.
E.g. it's not the great sort of game it doesnt matter what type of game a person likes (it's essential all people should play it), its not the sort you would recommend because it has good enough elements most people would like, and its not the sort you would say you avoid it because it's very unlikely anyone could like it -
himmatsj 2 posts
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Registered 7 years agoGuys, I think it is pointless to attach a number to the current tags, since some 8/10 games could possibly get Essential tags and some 9/10 only Recommended.
Regardless, I think this is how it should look like most of the time:
8.5-10 = Essential
7-8.5 = Recommended
4-7 = Silence of the Lambs
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PazJohnMitch 17,276 posts
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Registered 14 years agoEssential is the reviewer saying it is an excellent game and they think everyone should try it.
Recommended is saying I think this is good. Why do you not take a look, you might like it too.
Avoid is the reviewer suggested a game is painful to play and should be avoided as there are better alternatives.
The ungraded bit in the middle is the reviewer suggesting that you make your own decision based on the text. Games in this section will be loved by some and hated by others. Therefore the reader needs to make an decision based on the information they have been given to predict how they will find the game.
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Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoThey've changed from reviews to buying guides. -
What's the difference? -
Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoOne tells people to part with money, the other tells you the writer likes it. -
Rivuzu 18,424 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThis is like going from Metric back to Imperial. No wonder people are struggling. -
sanctusmortis 9,914 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI can't see the new scores, which is bizarre. Chrome just isn't loading them, no matter what I do with AdBlock etc. -
DreadedWalrus 1,824 posts
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Registered 11 years agoAre you saying you don't see the badges in the reviews that have them?
Recommended
Essential
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Here's a strange thing... Don't know if it's already been mentioned here - 20 pages is a lot to trawl through.
Google "Dynasty Warriors 8 Empires review" and up comes the Eurogamer review, "5 days ago" - with "Rating: 3" (as in 3/5)
It seems someone at Google is translating Eurogamer's "scoreless" reviews into a score-out-of-5. Curious. -
They're aware of that. It was mentioned in the original front page post about it. -
I think it's kind of crazy that you're not allowed to post a score in the comments. I got banned for a day for posting a score in a few reviews. -
mothercruncher 19,475 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYou're not allowed to guess at what number the review would given prior to the change?
What the totalitarian actual? -
Apparently so. Je suis Charlie. -
@EatShitAndLive badges are only for exceptionally good or bad games. Anything in between is undeserved. having said that the idea of the review is to have people actually read it -
CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years ago@EatShitAndLive because not every game will get a badge. If every game got a badge it would essentially still be giving it a score. So most games won't. If it's amazing, or awful, or recommended to try, it'll get one. -
@EatShitAndLive FYI Xenoblade - game is great port not so much.
For me, i haven't played the game before so am buying the 3ds version
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