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Armoured_Bear 18 Mar 2015 17:30:43 31,233 posts
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rock27gr wrote:
@Armoured_Bear

That's sort of true, though I know of a few people around here that would beg to differ!

It's true there hasn't yet been a truly killer game that was entirely based on the use of the gamePad (except for ZombiU?), but it does play support role that enhances most games one way or another, similar to how many DS/3DS games utilise the touch screen.

And many people are really making extensive use of the off-TV feature. So, perhaps a miss-fire, but then again, you can't always get everything right, unless you keep everything static.

I forgot about the off TV play as I don't use it but yeah, I appreciate that the gamepad can be pretty cool if you use that.

nickthegun 18 Mar 2015 17:30:59 87,711 posts
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It will have a squash dispensing cloaca in place of the right trigger.

nickthegun 18 Mar 2015 17:33:14 87,711 posts
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Again, I would be massively surprised if it wasn't a beefy handheld with a telly dongle.

There seems to be barely any point in them making a home console, so a fusion of their most successful market with their most embarrassing seems inevitable.

Deleted user 18 March 2015 17:40:50

nickthegun wrote:
a squash dispensing cloaca.

What's that thing where you lol and dry heave at the same time?

Armoured_Bear 18 Mar 2015 17:50:19 31,233 posts
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PES_Fanboy wrote:

nickthegun wrote:
a squash dispensing cloaca.
What's that thing where you lol and dry heave at the same time?

A crywank?

don81 18 Mar 2015 18:07:13 241 posts
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My idea of the N X Will be a handheld device that will be up to date graphics like ps4 not as good but it is primarily handheld that you stream to the t.v. via a chromecast like device (Nintendo proprietary dongle) and play it that way. Any one think the same?

Deleted user 18 March 2015 18:08:46

To be honest, I'm more interested to see how Nintendo are going to fill 2016 for the Wii U.

They struggle with capacity so much that I think it's going to be a very quiet year as they need to be cramming dev on to getting NX stuff ready.

Unless they plan to release NX late 2016 then fair enough, but 2017 seems more likely.

A mid gen console from Nintendo could probably do ok.� Existing gen owners may be ready for something shiny and new by then.� Assuming the ballbags can actually get some decent games out in a regular fashion post launch.

nickthegun 18 Mar 2015 19:25:04 87,711 posts
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Pinky_Floyd wrote:
To be honest, I'm more interested to see how Nintendo are going to fill 2016 for the Wii U.

Probably the same way they are going to fill 2015 because they can't do two things at once.

The wii u is, basically, dead now. Everyone who can string a line of code together will have been moved onto the new system.

nickthegun 18 Mar 2015 19:26:31 87,711 posts
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don81 wrote:
My idea of the N X Will be a handheld device that will be up to date graphics like ps4 not as good but it is primarily handheld that you stream to the t.v. via a chromecast like device (Nintendo proprietary dongle) and play it that way. Any one think the same?

Nope. Sounds like total bullshit.

Rhaegyr 18 Mar 2015 19:26:52 5,499 posts
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Yeah - can't see any new titles being developed past this point. Going to be a very scarce E3 for Nintendo this year.

Still, Xenoblade X and all that

convercide 18 Mar 2015 19:45:08 6,530 posts
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PES_Fanboy wrote:
Where will the hot orange squash come out of Nick?

This sounds the title of a surreal Japanese gameshow.

nickthegun 18 Mar 2015 19:57:38 87,711 posts
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You could say that 2016 may go either way.

Zomoniac 18 Mar 2015 20:13:48 10,628 posts
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Pinky_Floyd wrote:
To be honest, I'm more interested to see how Nintendo are going to fill 2016 for the Wii U.

They struggle with capacity so much that I think it's going to be a very quiet year as they need to be cramming dev on to getting NX stuff ready.

Unless they plan to release NX late 2016 then fair enough, but 2017 seems more likely.

A mid gen console from Nintendo could probably do ok.� Existing gen owners may be ready for something shiny and new by then.� Assuming the ballbags can actually get some decent games out in a regular fashion post launch.

Or they'll just do what they usually do and release it with no games for the first 18 months.

Deleted user 18 March 2015 20:18:52

I'm concerned that if the mobile stuff is massively successful that it might entirely divert and refocus their attention onto that platform and slowly move away efforts from their traditional fan base. They could make more money than ever before just by doing that. Bye bye 'proper' Nintendo games.

YenRug 18 Mar 2015 22:24:53 4,553 posts
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Interview with Satoru Iwata by TIME magazine:

http://time.com/3748920/nintendo-mobile-games/

Deleted user 19 March 2015 12:24:52

@Mr-Zoo I wouldn't think so. Even if the mobile side of things is incredibly successful, it doesn't require half the effort of their console business and profits can be diverted to that if need be.

I'd assume that if console-based games aren't making a huge profit, they'd adjust budgets accordingly, but Nintendo games never really require the huge teams we see pumping out games at Ubisoft or EA.

danathjo 19 Mar 2015 12:52:22 8,294 posts
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So Zelda will surely be pulled back to be a launch title right?

JoelStinty 19 Mar 2015 12:57:36 9,530 posts
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It depends. Whether it is a 2015 or 16 release, whether the NX is a successor to the wii u, and i guess they could do a twilight princess if they wanted too.

PazJohnMitch 19 Mar 2015 13:03:06 17,276 posts
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don81 wrote:
My idea of the N X Will be a handheld device that will be up to date graphics like ps4 not as good but it is primarily handheld that you stream to the t.v. via a chromecast like device (Nintendo proprietary dongle) and play it that way. Any one think the same?

If by "up to date graphics" you mean about the same as the Vita then yes I agree.

/Maybe on par with the WiiU...

PazJohnMitch 19 Mar 2015 13:06:02 17,276 posts
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danathjo wrote:
So Zelda will surely be pulled back to be a launch title right?

Probably. That game was one of the reasons I bought the WiiU too.

Deleted user 19 March 2015 13:27:22

There's also a chance that nx turns out to something totally weird/unexpected and isn't actually a new console. You never know with Nintendo...

Armoured_Bear 19 Mar 2015 13:40:27 31,233 posts
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danathjo wrote:
So Zelda will surely be pulled back to be a launch title right?

No.

rock27gr 19 Mar 2015 13:51:53 6,439 posts
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Why does everyone assume the NX will be out this year/early next year, even if it is a new home console?

Nintendo said we'll have to wait until next year before they even start talking about it, let alone release the damn thing, whatever it might be.

They made sure to stress the point that they only made the announcement in order to communicate to the fans that they aren't going full mobile mad, and are still going to support traditional gaming avenues as well.

Nintendo often get the blame of mis-communicating their stuff, but in this case it seems to me it's the gaming journalism that's failed to get the point and are spreading half truths based on nothing.

Hell, even their announcement of mobile gaming is being miss-read; they specifically said ALL game development will be done internally at Nintendo, yet everybody keeps believing they are just licensing their IP to DeNA to put in their shitty games. While the Nintendo games could probably end up being shitty too, they'll be shitty games developed by Nintendo themselves!

Edited by rock27gr at 13:52:25 19-03-2015

SamNunn92 19 Mar 2015 14:00:33 943 posts
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I did think the EG article about how the NX announcement signalled the death of the Wii U was a bit pre-emptive, especially with so many games yet to come out on it. There is obviously going to be another console in development; just as MS and Sony will start thinking about their next boxes a few years into their respective console cycles.

rock27gr 19 Mar 2015 14:08:34 6,439 posts
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It is common secret (so, not really a secret?) that development of the next console starts immediately after the new one is finished, even before release! You can bet both MS an Sony already started planning their next consoles, doesn't mean they'll release them anytime soon.

MrTomFTW Moderator 19 Mar 2015 14:17:46 47,501 posts
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I have to laugh at the people in the comments who believe that merely announcing the existence of a new console is admitting defeat. Like the guy who wrote:

Hey guys, remember when Sony announced the PS3, admitting the defeat of the PS2?
Remember when when Nintendo announced the WiiU, admitting the defeat of the Wii?
Remember when Microsoft announced the Xbox One, admitting the defeat of the 360?

Those were all good times. Thank goodness We'll have the PS4 and Xbox One until the world ends. Neither company will ever announce another system, which would mean the defeat of their current system!

No no no no no, that ALONG WITH the terrible sales, no support from 3rd parties and non-interest from all but the core Nintendo fans is what does it. Why do people struggle with context so badly?

rock27gr 19 Mar 2015 14:27:59 6,439 posts
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Perhaps because they were replying to an article were the context of the original announcement had been completely lost (on purpose I might add).

If Nintendo had come out and said, "hey guys, this is our new console, we are working on it and we hope to share more with you soon, keep a look out for further info!", then that article, or it's title would have made sense.

What actually happened was, Nintendo came out and said "hey guys, we are starting development of mobile games, we've partnered up with an expert to help us develop the next Nintendo Connected infrastructure, but fear not, we are still dead serious about proper gaming too, what with our 3DS and our WiiU and new exciting ideas like our project NX, which we will share with you more of next year! Please understand! "

Edited by rock27gr at 14:28:52 19-03-2015

SamNunn92 19 Mar 2015 14:35:06 943 posts
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I think the problem most people had was that the article specifically implied that by announcing NX, Nintendo had effectively given up on the Wii U. The poor sales, crappy 3rd party support etc are all valid reasons why Nintendo would want a new console & a fresh start but they don't by themselves (or even in conjunction with the announcement) mean that the Wii U is dead and buried IMO.

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