Following Nintendo Switch Page 1115

  • RyanDS 13 Sep 2018 09:54:53 12,004 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    Interesting question in general - what is a puzzle game, what is a strategy game? Where do they overlap?
    I'd say a puzzle is static and requires a solution. ie there is a straight path.

    A strategy game has some form of reactivity where you need to change your tactics due to the nature of the game changing.

    ie a puzzle has a straight line solution, a strategy has branches.
  • binky Moderator 13 Sep 2018 10:58:59 10,896 posts
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    So with Nintendo charging for multiplayer as of next week, will that affect ALL games do you know? As in will free-to-play games like Fortnite also be affected?

    Asking for an 8 year old.
  • H1ggyLTD 13 Sep 2018 11:00:08 10,262 posts
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    Dont think we know yet
  • THFourteen 13 Sep 2018 11:16:32 49,563 posts
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    https://kotaku.com/modders-bring-cannon-fodder-to-the-switch-1829018569

    Sweet
  • Load_2.0 13 Sep 2018 11:25:30 27,698 posts
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    binky wrote:
    So with Nintendo charging for multiplayer as of next week, will that affect ALL games do you know? As in will free-to-play games like Fortnite also be affected?

    Asking for an 8 year old.
    It looks like it won't be required for FTP games like Paladins or Fortnite.

    BTW I am sorry if I have ever killed your son in Fortnite I am addicted.
  • Load_2.0 13 Sep 2018 11:26:58 27,698 posts
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    Pinball FX3 also looks like it might be excluded.
  • The_Goon 13 Sep 2018 13:56:08 971 posts
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    I hope Rocket League isn't affected...Will probably mean I'll have to dump it on Switch if it is.
  • DangerousDave_87 13 Sep 2018 14:18:19 5,078 posts
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    I imagine Rocket League will be, being a game you pay for up front. It was also included as part of the online multiplayer games discounts last week, along with Splatoon, Arms, Mario Kart and Fifa.
  • Waffleaber 13 Sep 2018 15:05:22 706 posts
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    Yeah I saw an r/Rocketleague post where they said it'd be part of the online pass. Pain the in the arse but I've got more hours logged on PC anyway if the online offering doesn't get any better than some NES games.
  • The_Goon 13 Sep 2018 16:36:32 971 posts
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    Sigh. And with their bullshit stance on games with tradeables, I'm sure you can't cloud save either. Although I think Psyonix can opt to have it. I've dumped more time on it than any other game on my Switch so it would be a shame to stop playing it. Just not sure I can justify the cost to play it via handheld. Give me some N64/Gamecube games and we'll talk though - not interested in NES games.
  • StixxUK 13 Sep 2018 16:44:00 7,985 posts
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    @RyanDS hmm i dunno think you can have a puzzle with multiple solutions?
  • PazJohnMitch 13 Sep 2018 18:16:51 13,859 posts
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    Portal Bridge Builder has multiple solutions and I would call that a puzzle game.
  • JiveHound 13 Sep 2018 18:31:59 9,838 posts
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    What about Tetris/Lumines/Puyo Puyo?

    They're puzzle games whereby you have to rethink strategy on the fly.

    Usually puzzle and strategy get lumped together as they both centre around a more passive kind of problem solving.

    Strategy games tend to be bigger in scale with more plate spinning while puzzle games are more focused , often around one big idea.
  • Murbs 13 Sep 2018 18:49:26 23,969 posts
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    Can't get on the Switch as my eldest is playing Stardew Valley.

    Can't get on the PS4 as my youngest is playing Stardew Valley.

    F#&* Stardew Valley.
  • H1ggyLTD 13 Sep 2018 18:55:52 10,262 posts
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    Haha
  • nickthegun 13 Sep 2018 19:39:22 74,968 posts
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    Just played Splatoon for the first time in a good while and everyone's doodle is moaning about the paid online. Seems popular all around.
  • H1ggyLTD 13 Sep 2018 19:39:59 10,262 posts
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    Haha
  • JiveHound 13 Sep 2018 19:51:13 9,838 posts
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    Murbs wrote:
    Can't get on the Switch as my eldest is playing Stardew Valley.

    Can't get on the PS4 as my youngest is playing Stardew Valley.

    F#&* Stardew Valley.
    Brilliant, sell them to a farm?
  • JiveHound 13 Sep 2018 19:52:15 9,838 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    Just played Splatoon for the first time in a good while and everyone's doodle is moaning about the paid online. Seems popular all around.
    More than a year on and I don't get how the doodles are a thing with miiverse being defunct.

    I feel I've missed something, most likely obvious
  • H1ggyLTD 13 Sep 2018 19:52:20 10,262 posts
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    I feel like it will be a disastrous launch.

    Hope i'm wrong.
  • monkman76 13 Sep 2018 19:52:53 13,395 posts
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    Haha
  • DangerousDave_87 13 Sep 2018 20:45:37 5,078 posts
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    I think it'll do alright. The console itself had a solid launch on the back of just 5 games. I imagine those folk were also Wii U owners and will be the fist adopters of the online service.

    At least that's the category I fall into and I'm getting a subscription. I know I'm not the only nutcase out there.
  • H1ggyLTD 13 Sep 2018 20:52:25 10,262 posts
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    I meant in terms of performance, rather than subs.
  • Kay 13 Sep 2018 20:55:14 19,709 posts
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    I've finished the first two islands on ITB, on easy, without any issues. Is there any actual point in playing on normal or higher (aside from the increased challenge), or will I see all the game has to offer if I finish it on easy? I know that it doesn't quite work like that with a roguelike, but I'll be less motivated to do harder runs if it's largely just the same.

    I had the same issue with Invisible Inc. (although that took loads of runs before I finally completed it).

    Edited by Kay at 20:55:49 13-09-2018
  • rice_sandwich 13 Sep 2018 21:21:36 4,814 posts
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    I have super low expectations for the online service reveal. I'm pretty sure the online functionality of my Amiga back in the day will be better than what Nintendo have in store for us tonight. Still, it's pretty cheap and there's always hope of them adding in some decent back catalogue games sooner or later (or much, much later...)
  • DangerousDave_87 13 Sep 2018 21:35:41 5,078 posts
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    @H1ggyLTD Seeing as they've been telling us we've been getting the service for free since launch, I'm guessing performance is going to be no different. :/
  • Mola_Ram 13 Sep 2018 22:21:22 18,442 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    I've finished the first two islands on ITB, on easy, without any issues. Is there any actual point in playing on normal or higher (aside from the increased challenge), or will I see all the game has to offer if I finish it on easy? I know that it doesn't quite work like that with a roguelike, but I'll be less motivated to do harder runs if it's largely just the same.

    I had the same issue with Invisible Inc. (although that took loads of runs before I finally completed it).
    Well, the increased challenge is the whole point really. Playing on Easy is fine to get the hang of things, but you're not really getting the real meat of the game until you go higher.
  • DangerousDave_87 13 Sep 2018 23:02:07 5,078 posts
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    Luigi's Mansion 3! \o/
  • Duffking 13 Sep 2018 23:09:09 15,831 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    I've finished the first two islands on ITB, on easy, without any issues. Is there any actual point in playing on normal or higher (aside from the increased challenge), or will I see all the game has to offer if I finish it on easy? I know that it doesn't quite work like that with a roguelike, but I'll be less motivated to do harder runs if it's largely just the same.

    I had the same issue with Invisible Inc. (although that took loads of runs before I finally completed it).
    Easy is very, very easy in ITB. You can just kill everything. The entire point of the game is that you have to get creative to deal with enemies because you can't brute force it, and have to make lots of decisions about when to let units take hits instead of buildings and so on.
  • TheSaint 13 Sep 2018 23:24:34 17,936 posts
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    Will be interesting to see how cities skyline performs on the switch.
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