Nintendo Switch Page 1570

  • Kay 8 Jul 2021 17:35:07 21,321 posts
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    I wouldn't be surprised if this model was originally due to be released last year. As an improved version of the original model (aka GBA to GBA SP, or DS to Lite) it's fine, but feels weird coming this late in the Switch's lifespan. Since the Switch is still selling so well, maybe they decided to just hold off on the spec upgrade until the Switch 2.
  • brokenkey 8 Jul 2021 18:27:23 11,128 posts
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    What about that thing where the Nvidia chip they use in the current model was going to be discontinued, so they'd have to install something more powerful. What happened to that?
  • DangerousDave_87 8 Jul 2021 22:17:41 7,074 posts
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    I guess they jave another similarly powered custom chip? Or, although its no longer manufactured, Nintendo are hoarding them?
  • davidfowles 9 Jul 2021 03:03:07 518 posts
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    You’d have to think that COVID supply chain issues and the unexpectedly massive boost to Switch sales / Animal Crossing Lockdown Edition probably altered any plan they had to release an upgraded Switch. The screen manufacture was probably set up ages ago, the question of better gizzards though was probably decided more recently. I think it’s pretty nuts though, all the upgrades are for handheld / not-docked play, so is this the most expensive handheld gaming device ever made now? It’s AU$540. I think the PSP was $400 at launch here.
  • Mola_Ram 9 Jul 2021 03:12:04 26,187 posts
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    To be fair, it's not really just a handheld device. The lite is, but that's much cheaper.

    It's still not ideal to be more expensive than the other current gen systems, but gaming in Australia is expensive. It is known.
  • Worlds_ 9 Jul 2021 10:13:12 172 posts
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    OLED pre order on Argos available, £309.99: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/6798471
  • Zyrr 9 Jul 2021 10:31:47 564 posts
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    brokenkey wrote:
    What about that thing where the Nvidia chip they use in the current model was going to be discontinued, so they'd have to install something more powerful. What happened to that?
    As far as I can tell the original Tegra X1 is still being retired. However, since 2019 Nintendo have been using a modified version of the X1 they call Mariko, which first appeared in the Switch Lite and then also replaced the standard X1 in the docked models. When Nvidia announced they were killing X1 production I'd assumed Mariko would be retired as well and Nintendo would maybe adopt one of the newer Tegras for any new consoles. Seems that's not the case just yet.

    Nvidia are really struggling to meet demand for new silicon at the minute, so that may have been a contributing factor to keeping Mariko for as long as possible.
  • Kay 9 Jul 2021 11:01:25 21,321 posts
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    Worlds_ wrote:
    OLED pre order on Argos available, £309.99: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/6798471
    Would they take payment now, or on delivery?
  • TheSaint 9 Jul 2021 14:15:21 20,950 posts
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    First hands-on write up I've seen:

    https://www.theverge.com/22569208/nintendo-switch-oled-model-hands-on-screen
  • Worlds_ 9 Jul 2021 14:44:54 172 posts
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    @Kay sounds like they are taking payment now. Might be worth waiting for Amazon.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 9 Jul 2021 14:49:46 4,467 posts
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    Kay wrote:
    Worlds_ wrote:
    OLED pre order on Argos available, £309.99: https://www.argos.co.uk/product/6798471
    Would they take payment now, or on delivery?
    I think they charge up front. As I had 60 quid of vouchers I decided to go for one though...
  • THFourteen 9 Jul 2021 14:59:32 54,987 posts
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    Monster Hunter Stories 2 is in!

    Although now i'm regretting it and thinking i want the PC version given the poor performance....
  • Fake_Blood 9 Jul 2021 15:03:15 11,093 posts
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    I don’t know why they are calling this a midlife update, they launched in March 2017, Oktober 2021 will put it at 4,5 years. As a reminder there were 5 years between the N64/GC/Wii ( 1996-2001-2006).
    Sorry, I’m just really disappointed that they are back to doing the absolute minimum to keep making money.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 9 Jul 2021 15:14:09 4,467 posts
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    I have been wanting a normal V2 Switch for handheld use for a while so this was easier to justify. The bigger screen and OLED will be a nice improvement for my desired use.

    Hopefully will have a bit of a wait before an actual successor.
  • Worlds_ 9 Jul 2021 16:08:47 172 posts
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    I’m very tempted too but didn’t get on with the OG Switch in handheld. Maybe it’s the bulkier size, weight or feeing of cheapness with connecting joycons.

    It just felt too big for a handheld.

    But I’d love that big OLED screen for portable. If only they could upgrade the Lite like this.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 9 Jul 2021 17:33:00 4,467 posts
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    I have a Linx Vision 8" Windows gaming tablet that is pretty chunky (albeit probably sturdier) so this shouldn't feel too bad hopefully. I resisted expensive modern Windows gaming tablets this year so will make Do with this. I do wonder if wider 720P OLED panel availability at 7" will leak into the Windows market in the future though...
  • askew 9 Jul 2021 18:28:35 24,121 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    Sorry, I’m just really disappointed that they are back to doing the absolute minimum to keep making money.
    Maximise shareholder value, baby!
  • davidfowles 10 Jul 2021 00:57:24 518 posts
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    Mola_Ram wrote:
    To be fair, it's not really just a handheld device. The lite is, but that's much cheaper.

    It's still not ideal to be more expensive than the other current gen systems, but gaming in Australia is expensive. It is known.
    What I’m trying to say is, all the OLED upgrades do anything for is handheld mode. Not a single benefit for docked users. So to me it feels primarily intended as a handheld device even more so than the original Switch, or to appeal to handheld dominant users.

    And that it’s a rip-off. I mean, I bet the screen is really nice and I’d want it if I saw it, but this console is just not a complete breakfast.
  • Mola_Ram 10 Jul 2021 01:15:57 26,187 posts
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    I don't disagree that it's too pricey! I just think that comparing it to dedicated handhelds like the PSP and whatnot is a bit misguided.
  • BreadBinLidHero 10 Jul 2021 06:32:32 10,801 posts
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    I've wanted a Switch for ages but held off pending the Switch Pro. I guess I'll get this upgraded one, maybe?

    Edited by BreadBinLidHero at 06:32:51 10-07-2021
  • erniewhatbert 10 Jul 2021 08:25:53 3,131 posts
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    davidfowles wrote:


    What I’m trying to say is, all the OLED upgrades do anything for is handheld mode. Not a single benefit for docked users. So to me it feels primarily intended as a handheld device even more so than the original Switch, or to appeal to handheld dominant users.

    And that it’s a rip-off. I mean, I bet the screen is really nice and I’d want it if I saw it, but this console is just not a complete breakfast.
    Better download times on a wired network connection while docked? Even that is an optimistic guess. I've always assumed that download speeds have been bottlenecked by the wifi chip, but it wouldn't surprise me to see the d/l speeds from the store being terrible over ethernet as well.
  • SomethingOriginal 10 Jul 2021 10:49:49 61 posts
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    @erniewhatbert I have an ethernet adaptor on my OG model and while it makes MP more stable I don’t notice anything improved about download speeds if I’m honest. It certainly doesn’t seem to get anywhere near the max read/write of my microSD card.

    That said, could be that they’ve improved it for the new model.

    Edit: Ignore me, I just realised my adaptor fits to one of the docks USB 2.0 ports so that would limit throughput to 60Mbytes per second - so maybe a direct connection would be better after all.

    Edited by SomethingOriginal at 10:58:44 10-07-2021

    Edited by SomethingOriginal at 10:59:17 10-07-2021
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 10 Jul 2021 11:24:38 4,467 posts
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    If there had been a dockless SKU for this I would have gone for that with there being 2 docks in the house already. I guess they don't want to cannibalise the Lite sales and confuse consumers though... Plus they would probably only lip a tiny amount off the cost
  • davidfowles 10 Jul 2021 12:52:17 518 posts
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    @SomethingOriginal I guess then you have question whether the dock’s physical connection to the Switch is any better than USB2.0. Nintendo would have used the cheapest thing they could get away with you might expect.
  • SomethingOriginal 10 Jul 2021 13:28:00 61 posts
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    @davidfowles True, although I’m hopeful that the dock is just a direct pass through to the USB 3.0 on the Switch itself so fingers crossed!

    To be fair I payed a stupid amount of money to get a 1Tb microSD as I love having my entire game collection in my pocket (well, in my rucksack at least), so luckily I tend to only download once, but when I had smaller cards it was a bit annoying managing space (but obviously not that onerous in the grand scheme of things!).
  • Worlds_ 10 Jul 2021 13:38:51 172 posts
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    I mean, it wasn't that confusing; clearly there's no benefits to the docked Switch, but it's called the 'OLED model' - so the benefit is really obvious.

    It's just a much better quality and bigger screen.
  • Fake_Blood 10 Jul 2021 14:38:11 11,093 posts
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    Couldn’t even be bothered to go HDR.
  • Murbs 10 Jul 2021 22:09:16 25,151 posts
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    Playing rocket league drunk. Accidental invite sent to Garrett. Embarrassed. Quit game. Apologies!
  • Saul_Iscariot 10 Jul 2021 22:32:40 4,399 posts
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    Do you still have to go through the laborious task of changing the master setting in your account if you own two Switches? I vaguely recall that it was never as simple as logging into your account and having access to your purchases if you use two different Switches.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 11 Jul 2021 00:47:12 4,467 posts
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    Saul_Iscariot wrote:
    Do you still have to go through the laborious task of changing the master setting in your account if you own two Switches? I vaguely recall that it was never as simple as logging into your account and having access to your purchases if you use two different Switches.
    I believe so but I haven't actually tried it yet. We have a few of my purchases and my son's DLC on my wife's account so maybe one day we will have to, but I am guessing one of us will be out of luck...
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