Dolly wrote:Well the form (and cost) is different but the VC did this and did it well. |
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Psiloc 4,930 posts
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JoelStinty 7,112 posts
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Registered 5 years agoUltrasoundwave wrote:
I'm not convinced third party would ever properly make a firm commitment to putting games on a nintendo machine. They never really have after the Snes. There's nothing from putting current games on the wii u. Most games are cross generational and appearing on the PS3/360.
WinterSnowblind wrote:
The reason why the Wii U has flopped is because 3rd party publishers aren't supporting it - if this new console has the same spec as the PS4/XB1 but has all the first party Nintendo games usually make, it's the best of both worlds.
Ultrasoundwave wrote:
Does anyone need a third console that does exactly the same thing as the other two? I don't see third parties coming back to support them just because they have a more powerful system and I don't see the general public being convinced by it either. It doesn't make sense on any level.
The best case scenario is that Nintendo have realised that the Wii was a fluke and that they need to just make a dedicated, reasonably powerful gaming console. I imagine Nintendo bosses are looking at the amount of PS4's and XB1's being sold and they're quite jealous.
All this "NX" needs to be is a Nintendo console with a similar/slightly better spec than the PS4/XB1 - plus it needs a proper controller, no gamepad or waggle stick bollocks. I imagine if it has full backwards compatibility with the Wii U then that would make the Wii U owners happier too.
If that's what the "NX" is, Nintendo will be back in business.
I think it's more likely they'd release a system without the gimmicks, but significantly less powerful than the PS4/Xbone with a major focus on first party games, mobile integration, amiibo support and things like that.
In short, it makes complete sense. -
Dolly 3,509 posts
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Registered 12 years agoIf by 'did it well' you mean trickled the games through at a snails pace for too much money, then maybe. I'd be happy to pay a Netflix-type subscription for this though to have the full catalogue and any new games on the go, is what I probably should have said. -
Ultrasoundwave wrote:
Wouldn't that essentially be the Gamecube then? It had specs similar to the others and had a generous amount of third party multi-format stuff plus the usual Nintendo stuff. Don't get me wrong, it sold better than the Wii U is likely to so I don't necessarily think that's a bad thing as far as business decisions go.
The reason why the Wii U has flopped is because 3rd party publishers aren't supporting it - if this new console has the same spec as the PS4/XB1 but has all the first party Nintendo games usually make, it's the best of both worlds.
If it was me, I'd be trying to match specs almost exactly with one of the others to make porting multi-format stuff as easy as possible, though with maybe a little more power. -
Psiloc 4,930 posts
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Registered 11 years ago@Dolly VC is pretty well stocked now but I don't disagree about the prices. Got no problem with a subscription format but I don't see them doing an Onlive, it would be using a sledgehammer to crack a nut when the majority of the ROMs could be transferred to a HDD in less than 10MB.
PS+ but Nintendo maybe? Then again I don't understand why they'd need new hardware to do that beyond maybe a rebranding excersise - which is possible. -
BigOrkWaaagh 8,207 posts
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Registered 11 years agoJoelStinty wrote:
Aside from the fact that they would sell exactly no copies.
There's nothing from putting current games on the wii u. Most games are cross generational and appearing on the PS3/360. -
Armoured_Bear 25,100 posts
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Registered 7 years agoUltrasoundwave wrote:
Nintendo could build a 10TFLOP/s insanely powered machine and Western 3rd parties still wouldn’t bother their arse with it.
WinterSnowblind wrote:
The reason why the Wii U has flopped is because 3rd party publishers aren't supporting it - if this new console has the same spec as the PS4/XB1 but has all the first party Nintendo games usually make, it's the best of both worlds.
Ultrasoundwave wrote:
Does anyone need a third console that does exactly the same thing as the other two? I don't see third parties coming back to support them just because they have a more powerful system and I don't see the general public being convinced by it either. It doesn't make sense on any level.
The best case scenario is that Nintendo have realised that the Wii was a fluke and that they need to just make a dedicated, reasonably powerful gaming console. I imagine Nintendo bosses are looking at the amount of PS4's and XB1's being sold and they're quite jealous.
All this "NX" needs to be is a Nintendo console with a similar/slightly better spec than the PS4/XB1 - plus it needs a proper controller, no gamepad or waggle stick bollocks. I imagine if it has full backwards compatibility with the Wii U then that would make the Wii U owners happier too.
If that's what the "NX" is, Nintendo will be back in business.
I think it's more likely they'd release a system without the gimmicks, but significantly less powerful than the PS4/Xbone with a major focus on first party games, mobile integration, amiibo support and things like that.
In short, it makes complete sense. -
MoralMajority 33 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI can't see this being a new home core console. I don't think Nintendo would be foolish to announce a new console which will undermine the already weak market of the Wii U. I was planning to get a Wii U this year but won't be until this is cleared up. -
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Registered 13 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
Why? They support the handhelds don't they?
Nintendo could build a 10TFLOP/s insanely powered machine and Western 3rd parties still wouldn’t bother their arse with it.
They'll make games for any machine that has a fighting chance of selling shit loads of units. -
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Registered 12 years agoMoralMajority wrote:
You've got at least 2 years until their next console came out. Considering the WiiU came out in 2012, that's 5 years on the market which is normal.
I can't see this being a new home core console. I don't think Nintendo would be foolish to announce a new console which will undermine the already weak market of the Wii U. I was planning to get a Wii U this year but won't be until this is cleared up. -
CosmicFuzz 32,531 posts
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Registered 12 years agoAnd yeah, publishers and developers don't avoid putting their games on WiiU because "FUCK YOU NINTENDO". They avoid putting their games on WiiU because they would sell fuck all. Yeah it's a circle, but if the WiiU was selling gangbusters (or even averagely) there would be more third-party devs on it.
Publishers care about making money, end of. -
Heck, with some publishers we were lucky getting what we did. Ubisoft stuck with it longer than I'd have thought when they released Watch Dogs, which I was pretty sure would end up cancelled because I couldn't see it selling well at all. Same with CoD Ghosts, I didn't think that'd happen.
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aros 4,260 posts
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Registered 12 years agoNo, they don't support the handhelds. Weird post. -
Armoured_Bear 25,100 posts
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Registered 7 years agoGus wrote:
Nintendo consoles are toxic to Western 3rd party devs, they’ve been pissed off by Nintendo for generations.
Armoured_Bear wrote:
Why? They support the handhelds don't they?
Nintendo could build a 10TFLOP/s insanely powered machine and Western 3rd parties still wouldn’t bother their arse with it.
They'll make games for any machine that has a fighting chance of selling shit loads of units.
They barely support the 3DS and mostly sell fuck all, even the Wii got pitiful support despite selling gangbusters. -
Saul_Iscariot 3,049 posts
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Registered 6 years agoIsn't that because western developed games just suck? -
CosmicFuzz 32,531 posts
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Registered 12 years agoThe Wii got plenty of shitty mini games. They didn't get many of the major games that came out on other consoles because of forced motion controls (yes I know there was the pro controller but hardly anyone had one of those in the grand scheme of things).
If Nintendo made a console on par with PS4/Xbox one with a regular controller, I don't see why they wouldn't port it across. -
Saul_Iscariot 3,049 posts
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Registered 6 years agoBecause they wouldn't sell. If a Nintendo console sells well or not third party games rarely do. Certainly the ones that should sell well don't seem to. -
CosmicFuzz 32,531 posts
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Registered 12 years agoSaul_Iscariot wrote:
But there's not been fair console parity since the Gamecube. Both the Wii and WiiU were a gen behind. The Wii had weird controls that made many PS3/Xbox 360 games unplayable and the WiiU got a whole bunch of games that were years old by the time they launched. Hardly surprising they didn't sell.
Because they wouldn't sell. If a Nintendo console sells well or not third party games rarely do. Certainly the ones that should sell well don't seem to.
If the "NX" sold well and was on par with other consoles with normal controller, of course the games would sell. -
Daryoon 5,912 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThird parties supported the 3/DS? Japanese third parties, maybe. -
Psiloc 4,930 posts
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Registered 11 years agoActually I take back my comment about them not doing an OnLive. It probably won't happen but if it did there's one pretty good reason: if they wanted to developers could go full blown AAA PS4 calibre with their games and Nintendo could do it on a "withered technology" box that cost them £20 to manufacture.
It would also skirt around the "investment on return" problem third parties have with Nintendo - all they have to do is dump a PC copy of their game on Nintendo's servers and forget about it. If no one buys it who cares, they were making the PC version of the game anyway.
Of course the elephant in the room is that streaming gameplay is hardly Nintendo's forte. -
Daryoon 5,912 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThere's an even bigger elephant in the "streaming gameplay" room, which is "what about all those people with shitty connections because they don't live in [insert Major City here]?".
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Gitsmith 311 posts
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Registered 8 years agoI hope they've had a good look at Valves gamepad, before adding their own strange alchemy and feeding it through the 'Nintendotronic magic-infuser' - that they definitely have.
Couple that with some contemporary system specs along with third party support and I'd throw my money at them. -
I am intrigued as to what it might be. I do not want it to be just like the PS4/Xbox one. Ie similar specs. Same multi plats etc. I've already got 3 platforms that do that already. I quite like the idea of a tablet like device used for streaming. As people have mentioned a Netflix for Nintendo. All the library. Well all the decent stuff available for a monthly/annual sub. -
Or forget what I said make it like the PS4 but more powerful and launch with Half life 3 and Dark Souls 3 exclusives lol. -
Are we all forgetting that they're working on an 'all new concept' for this next system? I doubt it'll be a straight up copy of the current consoles. I hope not, anyway... -
Off topic but what happened to LLbro? -
addyb wrote:
GIed a couple of months back.
Off topic but what happened to LLbro?
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