True Detective Page 20

  • Tonka 14 Aug 2015 07:12:22 28,853 posts
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    Load_2.0 wrote:
    The way I looked at it, he was going to have to protect his son and ex-wife as they would be used to get to him.

    So had to force a show down.
    No, it's an homage to noir playing out just like a noir. No one was expecting them to get away and happy did you?

    Shit on rails by the numbers trope fest.
  • LeD 14 Aug 2015 07:59:04 6,991 posts
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    Baihu1983 wrote:
    LeD wrote:
    Iain815 wrote:
    Here's a question, why didn't Velcoro just leave his fucking car behind after he couldn't remove The Transponder?
    He didn't even try to remove it. I think he wanted that end, same way he knew how is life would play out when he went after the man who he was told had raped his wife.
    You must have missed him trying to pull it off, then using a knife to try and detach it...

    He knew he was being watched so running would have ended very quickly.
    To me it looked like he barely tried, but I might be wrong though.
  • Baihu1983 14 Aug 2015 08:16:11 10,621 posts
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    It looked High tech rather than a cheap one anyone can buy so probably not easy to get rid of.
  • LeD 14 Aug 2015 09:16:09 6,991 posts
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    Season 3!
  • Mola_Ram 14 Aug 2015 09:21:00 19,063 posts
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    Meh
  • StixxUK 14 Aug 2015 10:05:50 8,080 posts
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    Season 2 was deliberately shit as a ploy to lower our expectations before an incredible season 3.

    Actually I quite enjoyed it, but nowhere near the standard of the first.
  • Iain815 14 Aug 2015 10:14:21 561 posts
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    YenRug wrote:
    The dangers of auteur TV: How “True Detective” went from critical darling to laughingstock

    But there is so much good in the second season: strong performances, intelligent dialogue, a strong if imperfect sense of place.
    Nope. Stopped reading there. All it was, was dialogue trying to sound intelligent.
  • Tonka 14 Aug 2015 10:20:40 28,853 posts
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    7 reasons for the utter disaster that was this season
  • arty 15 Aug 2015 10:49:04 480 posts
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    Just finished S2, well I'm glad that's over!
  • anephric 15 Aug 2015 14:15:30 3,029 posts
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    I extended all the goodwill in the world to this. I was immensely forgiving of the wobbliness of the end of the first season too.

    It was just a mess, a Robert Towne/James Ellroy worshipping mess. Pizzofaceo tries to go for the wheels-within-wheels of Towne and Chinatown and he hasn't got the chops for it, it was just a mess. There was the occasional decent moment, but the entire last episode was just a carcrash. He couldn't bring it together even vaguely satisfactorily and there was no need at all for the multi-protag narrative, other than ego. It brought nothing to the story and just made things even more confusing.

    He obviously desperately wanted a Chinatown-esque downbeat ending, and it was just a clusterfuck.
  • Mola_Ram 15 Aug 2015 15:06:00 19,063 posts
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    You guys just didn't understand the sheer genius of it all.
  • Nemesis 15 Aug 2015 20:44:09 19,483 posts
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    Well, that's that then.

    Most of the guys go out in a blaze of meh. VV was alright in the end, even though his little squinty frown was really getting old. I just...I dunno. I don't mind complex, but this wasn't complex. It was a mess.

    It needed to be much sharper than it was; everything felt like it was trying too hard. I can't help but feel it had the touch of the 2nd Matrix film, whereby it lost it's ability to remember why it was so good and what was cool. Season 1 was great. I think they need to go off and see if they can figure that out. Season 2 wasn't that, but it wasn't terrible. I didn't hate my time with it, but good Lord if they get a third season they need to sort it out.

    Edited by Nemesis at 20:44:55 15-08-2015
  • arty 15 Aug 2015 21:29:48 480 posts
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    Yeah, it was like blue balls in your heart.
  • Nemesis 15 Aug 2015 23:54:19 19,483 posts
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    /looks at ceiling
  • Juz 16 Aug 2015 15:06:08 3,262 posts
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    EG just doesn't get True Detective!

    It's just too deep and meaningful for your tiny minds.

    Loved the first, but this just felt like a murky depress em up with blurry, cliched characters and a sense of ponderousness that made me bored.

    Will keep an eye out for the third series, cos the first one was so good it still has credit in my bank.

    Edited by Juz at 15:06:38 16-08-2015
  • yegon 16 Aug 2015 19:43:52 6,322 posts
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    Juz wrote:
    Will keep an eye out for the third series, cos the first one was so good it still has credit in
    my bank.
    Certainly, the nature of the show means a decent season 3 is entirely possible.

    Spoiler for the critics verdict on season 3;

    Not as good as season 1, a million times better than season 2.
  • beastmaster 16 Aug 2015 19:59:43 18,915 posts
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    Just watching series 1 now. Brilliant!
  • WoodenSpoon 16 Aug 2015 21:55:16 12,348 posts
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    Don't understand the hate for S2 at all. Obviously was never going to be as good as the first one, but I really enjoyed it anyway.
  • WoodenSpoon 16 Aug 2015 21:59:05 12,348 posts
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    Also - I liked Vince Vaughn. Suck it
  • Baihu1983 17 Aug 2015 05:53:14 10,621 posts
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    Careful. No ones allowed to like it...
  • Baihu1983 17 Aug 2015 07:33:36 10,621 posts
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    But he knew he was being watched he just didn't know what car they were in. He was also wanted with pictures all over the place.
  • Juz 17 Aug 2015 09:40:29 3,262 posts
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    He had to do that film/TV cliche of:

    "I been runnin' too long...it's time to stop and fight n' go out in a blaze a glory...but first I gotta make peace with ma demons"

    And then get shot.

    It was just another tired old cookie-cutter bit of writing.
  • WoodenSpoon 17 Aug 2015 20:33:02 12,348 posts
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    It's pretty obvious if there is a tracker on his car then people who want to kill him know where he is.

    Not much he can do at that point, if he'd got an uber he'd still have gotten chased down by the car that follows him when he drives off.

    Skulking off in the bushes would mean leaving the tracker right outside his son's school. He probably figured he was screwed so he might as well lure them away and try to force some sort of showdown.
  • Darth_Flibble 17 Aug 2015 21:20:18 3,244 posts
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    Of course it could of been better than season 1, maybe season 1 was a fluke or season 2 was rushed.

    edit: Watching Aquarius on now tv/sky Atlantic, really enjoying ep 1

    Edited by Darth_Flibble at 21:37:19 17-08-2015
  • M83J01P97 17 Aug 2015 21:38:28 7,571 posts
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    I'm pretty sure he had the same amount of time to write the season as any other producers do for a HBO show, the trouble is, he wrote season 1 to be a book then decided to adapt it into a series before he even began pitching the idea to networks.

    Sadly the phrase 'one trick pony' springs to mind, but I'm willing to see what he can do with season 3... At least for one episode anyway.

    However a few places have already pointed out that HBO haven't commented on whether they are commissioning a third season yet, and with their big shows they tend to be quite quick with signing up a follow on.
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