Tiger has been announced

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  • TennesseeStiff 12 Apr 2005 15:13:57 372 posts
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    On sale Friday April 29

    Apple

    Looks good but I think the really cool stuff is under the hood and it will take a while for developers to start using them in Apps.

    Edited by otto at 14:56:29 12-04-2005
  • gnomelover 12 Apr 2005 15:14:58 65 posts
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    Woohoo! Time to start scrapin up the spare change.
  • Blerk Moderator 12 Apr 2005 15:15:16 48,222 posts
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    Is it still 'fucking annoying'? :-)
  • Tiger_Walts 12 Apr 2005 15:15:19 16,674 posts
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    Ta Daaa!

    What?
  • ssuellid 12 Apr 2005 15:18:51 19,142 posts
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    Tiger_Walts wrote:
    Ta Daaa!

    What?

    Either you or Tiger Woods, or Tony The Tiger are doing something with an Apple.
  • Tiger_Walts 12 Apr 2005 15:38:30 16,674 posts
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    You'll never think of scrumpy in the same way again.
  • Blerk Moderator 12 Apr 2005 15:53:40 48,222 posts
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    Tch. You Mac-ites. Money to burn. :-)

    It's an OS update! It is not 'exciting'. Or 'must have'. Buy some games, you geeks. ;-)
  • ssuellid 12 Apr 2005 15:55:29 19,142 posts
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    The link is knackered BTW.
  • Blerk Moderator 12 Apr 2005 15:57:53 48,222 posts
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    So's the OS. :-D
  • TennesseeStiff 12 Apr 2005 16:43:41 372 posts
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    otto wrote:
    Er, what games?

    :D

    /burns some more money

    Psychonauts!!

    You'll like Psychonauts ....
  • Kim-Philby 14 Apr 2005 14:55:10 1 posts
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    Update costs 129 EUR.
  • ssuellid 14 Apr 2005 14:57:33 19,142 posts
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    When was the last update and how much was it? Just seems expensive to me - seems more like the price you would charge for a whole OS.
  • MrWorf 14 Apr 2005 14:58:12 64,193 posts
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    what's this then?

    ah.... OS X SP1 eh?

    /sounds of crickets
    /plane passes over head

    nothing to see here, move along
  • Milk 14 Apr 2005 15:00:13 2,253 posts
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    With panther there was no password / CD key protection.

    Which I found strange, as I installed my boxed coppy that I had bought from a shop.
  • eviltobz  14 Apr 2005 15:10:41 2,609 posts
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    Razz wrote:
    what's this then?

    ah.... OS X SP1 eh?
    nah. service packy, patchingy type things are downloaded and handled by the os on a regular basis. these releases are much more features based.
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 15:12:03 48,222 posts
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    ... proving once and for all that Apple fans have money to burn. A whole new OS for a few new features? If Microsoft did that they'd get burned at the stake. When Apple do it it's somehow fine. Odd, that.

    /issues order for Mac upgrade
  • GrandTheftApu 14 Apr 2005 15:17:28 6,117 posts
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    Blerk wrote:
    ... proving once and for all that Apple fans have money to burn. A whole new OS for a few new features? If Microsoft did that they'd get burned at the stake. When Apple do it it's somehow fine. Odd, that.

    I have heard that a number of updates to pro apps like Shake & FCP will require Tiger because they rely on new tech like core imaging/video.
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 15:18:30 48,222 posts
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    Blerkie, there's no obligation to buy. Old releases are more than serviceable, and fully supported.

    Why doesn't a load of our software work on our 10.2 machines then, ottster? :-)
  • humanchu 14 Apr 2005 15:22:28 70 posts
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    why am i excited by these silly enchancements?

    they do look pretty and they do seem usable but it's not like I really need to have fancy icons to monitor the weather in Tokyo.

    /thinks about the ripple effect
    /smiles
    /feels stupid
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 15:27:01 48,222 posts
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    I have to use Macs and OS X every day. I'm not trolling - it irritates me. Especially when I was perfectly happy with pre-OS X Macs.
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 15:30:00 48,222 posts
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    At least 9 did what I told it, when I told it. And I didn't have to go all around the bastard houses or pop open a console in order to do it.
  • deem 14 Apr 2005 15:32:35 31,667 posts
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  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 15:33:09 48,222 posts
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    In fact, let's get this all out into the open:

    Mac OS X isn't an OS - it's two OSes. It's UNIX but it's not, and it's Mac OS but it's not. They've taken UNIX and tried to pretty it up and make it easy for normal people, but the 'pretty' bit can't manage half of the things that you need to do in order to fully operate UNIX and the entire experiment falls flat. You now can't use a Mac at above 'dumb user' level without being a UNIX guru.

    And to add insult to injury, they seem to have taken everything that was useful and/or simple to use from Mac OS 9 and butchered it to be as cack-handed and unhelpful as possible.

    Oh, but it looks nice. So therefore it must be great.
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 15:35:49 48,222 posts
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    Well I'm a cross-platform developer of business software and it's a right royal pain in the arse from my point of view. :-)
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 15:43:48 48,222 posts
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    Ah. That's better. :-)

    /is calm
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 15:52:32 48,222 posts
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    So why do I find myself having to go back to the UNIX books to fix simple things like file permissions time and again, Hyou?
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 15:59:03 48,222 posts
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    Because

    a) you can't see half the files and folders in the finder.

    and

    b) being an 'admin' apparently counts for very little. More than one administrator on the machine and you find you're suddenly restricted in which files/folders you can mess with.
  • ssuellid 14 Apr 2005 16:00:39 19,142 posts
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    There isn't an equivalent of a superuser account?
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 16:03:45 48,222 posts
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    There isn't an equivalent of a superuser account?

    Yes, but only via the console.


    Sounds as if you should be permanently running Tinker Tool Blerkie.

    Tinker what? What's that do? :-)
  • Blerk Moderator 14 Apr 2005 16:09:13 48,222 posts
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    you shouldn't be experiencing the changing of dot file permissions issues in normal operation

    When I created my admin account, Mac OS assigned 'ownership' of a load of my own user files to the other admin user! Including my temporary directory! >-(

    Alright, seeing as you're all experts let's have a bit of help, here.

    I want to get the finder to display everything (i.e. ALL folders) in 'detail' format. Always. I can change individual folders but apparently not all of them in one go. Any ideas?
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