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Deleted user 23 December 2015 10:03:33

Never played the original. Did pay Terror from the Deep. I can understand why old fans claim the new games are "dumbed down" but personally I found Terror from the Deep a bit clunky.

Deleted user 23 December 2015 10:03:37

Double post.

Edited by drhickman1983 at 10:27:33 23-12-2015

Moot_Point 23 Dec 2015 10:13:08 5,530 posts
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Even though the older games show their age, they are tactically perfect. I still get some enjoyment from the latest iteration, but I am glad they are trying to make the franchise work for them, instead of shoehorning the older narratives.

WrongShui 23 Dec 2015 12:05:31 6,858 posts
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drhickman1983 wrote:
Never played the original. Did pay Terror from the Deep. I can understand why old fans claim the new games are "dumbed down" but personally I found Terror from the Deep a bit clunky.

Considering it was basically an art swap I rather enjoyed TFTD, but some of those two and three stage missions were a real slog.

Favorite is still Apocolypse, the real time combat may have removed most of the tactical feel but it was fun having a giant team of robots shooting a building to death.

Edited by WrongShui at 12:06:02 23-12-2015

opalw00t 8 Jan 2016 11:08:03 12,836 posts
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Ooooooooooooh

tonyferrino 8 Jan 2016 11:52:41 407 posts
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Total "Never pre-order" Biscuit convinced me to pre-order it from that video.

#ironical

StarchildHypocrethes 8 Jan 2016 14:57:00 33,974 posts
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This looks really rather good.

faux-C 8 Jan 2016 15:20:34 11,204 posts
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Everyone I've seen talking about this on Twitter is in awe of how good it is. Preview on RPS makes it sound astounding too.

SweetMrGibs 8 Jan 2016 15:29:05 1,429 posts
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Damn. I'd better finish Bloodborne: The Old Hunters, Transformers: Devastation and start Fallout 4... stat!

Deleted user 8 January 2016 16:07:20

I really really want this now.

This year looks like a great year for Strategy games.

opalw00t 8 Jan 2016 16:27:53 12,836 posts
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Yeah, really looking forward to this and Stellaris.

Telepathic.Geometry 9 Jan 2016 01:32:44 12,422 posts
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Please release it on PS4 before 2017! I don't have a gaming PC.

opalw00t 9 Jan 2016 11:34:40 12,836 posts
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From what I've read, they have avoided confirming one way or another on console ports. I'm hoping my laptop has enough grunt to run XCOM2 myself.

GloatingSwine 9 Jan 2016 12:46:27 3,916 posts
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drhickman1983 wrote:
Never played the original. Did pay Terror from the Deep. I can understand why old fans claim the new games are "dumbed down" but personally I found Terror from the Deep a bit clunky.

"A bit" clunky is understatement of the decade for the original UFO/TFTD. Inventory management alone was such a pain in the ass I'd never play it without the "remember squad loadout" mod.

(Xenonauts is a good modern version of the "classic" gameplay, with all manner of quality of life upgrades).

MikeP 9 Jan 2016 13:19:17 2,975 posts
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I was very, very, happy to see that they've included a line of sight flag in the interface this time round.

One of the most frustrating elements of XCOM: EU was it was very unclear at times if you were going to be able to take a shot or not. Especially as the AI never seemed to suffer from the same problem.

neems 9 Jan 2016 13:53:23 5,635 posts
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opalw00t wrote:
Yeah, really looking forward to this and Stellaris.

I am so looking forward to Stellaris. Xcom 2 as well of course, but omg Stellaris.

opalw00t 9 Jan 2016 16:24:07 12,836 posts
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Been gorging on recorded twitch streams of gameplay. Looks so good...

I recommend the Miss_Jamball stream - the guy playing it is funny as fuck and has modified some of the game files so research and building completes faster so he can show more, as the build is limited to 3 months of gameplay.

opalw00t 10 Jan 2016 11:58:05 12,836 posts
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Modding is apparently quite simple via the INI files - fully commented so you can fuck about with all sorts of things. Just saw a mission with 48 (yes, forty eight) XCOM troopers

Load times were slightly affected.

SirScratchalot 10 Jan 2016 13:41:31 7,921 posts
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I really hope the aliens actually move around before I find them this time. Please,please please make the aliens move around in the fog of war so I don't have a squad of 4 snipers and two members who simply trigger the aliens and then hide.

Edited by SirScratchalot at 13:43:53 10-01-2016

SirScratchalot 10 Jan 2016 13:46:05 7,921 posts
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@neems and @opalw00t Thanks to both of you for pointing me to Stellaris lads. Looks like the game eleven old me wanted to build.

opalw00t 10 Jan 2016 14:47:36 12,836 posts
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SirScratchalot wrote:
I really hope the aliens actually move around before I find them this time. Please,please please make the aliens move around in the fog of war so I don't have a squad of 4 snipers and two members who simply trigger the aliens and then hide.

From what I've seen, your hopes have come true.

SirScratchalot 10 Jan 2016 15:19:25 7,921 posts
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Hope that's true, I've seen some stuff about patrol patterns but nothing about actual AI movement out there on the map.

MikeP 10 Jan 2016 18:52:06 2,975 posts
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Yeah, they make organised patrols. Another thing I've noticed from some of the previews is that this time round movement turns feature waypoints, so you can navigate around with a lot more control.

The more I see of it, the more I like. It seems to encourage a more adventurous style of play than XCOM:EU Yeah, because that's not going to get me wiped ALL THE TIME.

urban 26 Jan 2016 13:13:02 13,148 posts
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I've been replaying XCOM this last weekend, carrying on from where I obviously chucked the dummy out of the pram because one of my super elite soldiers got twatted. I forgot just how brutal this game is!

XCOM 2 is preordered and next weekend is going to be pretty excellent, first big game of the year!

Edited by urban at 13:17:43 26-01-2016

Ironlungs_76 26 Jan 2016 13:18:04 187 posts
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Yeah same here, albeit doing a bit of the Long War mod rather than Enemy Unknown/Enemy Within as I played those to death on my xbox.

My pre-order can't arrive soon enough, this is the game I've been most looking forward to this year by far.

Rivuzu 26 Jan 2016 13:20:45 18,424 posts
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Well it is still January...!

Can't wait myself either. Recently lost three of my highest ranking soldiers on a routine sweep and clear. The salt was real.

Telepathic.Geometry 26 Jan 2016 14:15:22 12,422 posts
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I'm replaying enemy within, and currently on my base defense. I have two rookies who are fucking cleaning house here. They're getting 5 damage crits on the alien horde with shitty rifles. I'm doing my best to look after the hardy little bastards.

opalw00t 26 Jan 2016 14:40:03 12,836 posts
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I recommend Beaglerush's Ironman Impossible run on Long War if you like watching people play.

He uses some crazy tactics to stay alive...

MrMumtaz 26 Jan 2016 14:45:57 1,182 posts
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I love watching Marbozir for XCOM Let's Plays. He's quite defensive (which will catch him out in XCOM 2 from what I've seen), but his accent and funny comments about his squad members / alien engagements never gets old.

Sadly, I had to cancel the preorder I posted on Page 1, ths missus is in the final 6 months of her PhD so I can't commandeer her laptop, and can't justify the cost of updating my dinosaur PC to a high-end gaming PC for one game.

Add me to the list of people praying they announce a console version soon after the PC version is out!

Rivuzu 26 Jan 2016 14:48:58 18,424 posts
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I have once, and only once managed to get to the base invasion on Ironman Classic, and to this day I stand by that it was through a sheer streak of luck. Should of bought a lottery ticket instead.

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