Fingerprinting to start soon...

  • morriss 13 Apr 2005 17:21:24 71,293 posts
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    Me don't like this sort of thing

    Edited by morriss at 16:22:01 13-04-2005
  • ssuellid 13 Apr 2005 17:25:25 19,142 posts
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    This is where they discover that the uniqueness of fingerprints is just a myth.

    Bad stuff.
  • morriss 13 Apr 2005 17:26:45 71,293 posts
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    ssuellid wrote:
    This is where they discover that the uniqueness of fingerprints is just a myth.

    Bad stuff.
    Sorry, is their something I missed? Are they not all unique?
  • ssuellid 13 Apr 2005 17:30:41 19,142 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    Sorry, is their something I missed? Are they not all unique?

    You cannot be absolutely sure until they have finger printed everyone. But they probably are unique.
  • Shivoa 13 Apr 2005 17:31:58 6,314 posts
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    mine are all the same so definitely not unique.

    /power sander
  • hulahoops 13 Apr 2005 17:37:43 2,311 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    Me don't like this sort of thing
    And why do you think it's a bad thing?

    Edited by BlankOBlank! at 16:37:58 13-04-2005
  • morriss 13 Apr 2005 17:37:59 71,293 posts
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    Shivoa wrote:
    mine are all the same so definitely not unique.

    /power sander

    Someone's watched Se7en too many times!
  • gizmo 13 Apr 2005 17:38:20 2,100 posts
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    Now this doesn't bother me AT ALL, but then I don't plan to go and steal from someones house. Although Mr Blairs government tell me I have one arrest credit to see how lucrative that is :p

    Nor do I plan to nick someone elses car. So thats fine too.

    In fact, if it may just help catch one of the twats which have broken into my car countless times then its fine by me.

    In fact, moaning about this sort of thing is what leads to liberal stupidity like not being allowed to defend your property or line your wall with broken glass in-case a burglar with a large knife, coming to rob you accidentally cuts his liddle fingy wingers and decides to sue you for crack money.

    I wish it was far fetched, but its not.

    edit: missed a word out.

    Edited by gizmo at 16:38:57 13-04-2005
  • morriss 13 Apr 2005 17:39:19 71,293 posts
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    BlankOBlank! wrote:
    morriss wrote:
    Me don't like this sort of thing
    And why do you think it's a bad thing?

    Edited by BlankOBlank! at 16:37:58 13-04-2005

    Because I don't like the idea that the state has a record of where I travel to, or what I do generally and the like. I believe in privacy and freedom, is that a bad thing?
  • hulahoops 13 Apr 2005 17:56:10 2,311 posts
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    morriss wrote:
    Because I don't like the idea that the state has a record of where I travel to, or what I do generally and the like. I believe in privacy and freedom, is that a bad thing?
    I'm not accusing you personally, but I think there's a smell of emperor's new clothes about people who immediately baulk at this sort of thing.

    The next words out of their mouth are usually "oh but surely you must have read Orwell's 1984...".

    What makes you think the government would waste time working out where you go for your summer holidays?

    Exactly how is your freedom going to be eroded?

    You'll tell Thomas Cook all of your personal details, as well as where you go on your holidays.

    Please can someone explain to me why I should be wringing my hands about this, because if my house is burgled I really wouldn't mind getting my stuff back.

    I'm not even some right wing nut - I don't agree with shooting burglars in the back, I don't believe the public should be dishing out death sentences for trespassing.

    Edited by BlankOBlank! at 16:57:07 13-04-2005
  • Whizzo 13 Apr 2005 17:59:49 44,810 posts
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    Are they banning people from wearing gloves in the future too?

    Waste of time, money and effort.
  • morriss 13 Apr 2005 18:11:45 71,293 posts
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    BlankOBlank! wrote:
    morriss wrote:
    Because I don't like the idea that the state has a record of where I travel to, or what I do generally and the like. I believe in privacy and freedom, is that a bad thing?
    I'm not accusing you personally, but I think there's a smell of emperor's new clothes about people who immediately baulk at this sort of thing.

    The next words out of their mouth are usually "oh but surely you must have read Orwell's 1984...".

    What makes you think the government would waste time working out where you go for your summer holidays?

    Exactly how is your freedom going to be eroded?


    Please can someone explain to me why I should be wringing my hands about this, because if my house is burgled I really wouldn't mind getting my stuff back.

    I'm not even some right wing nut - I don't agree with shooting burglars in the back, I don't believe the public should be dishing out death sentences for trespassing.

    Edited by BlankOBlank! at 16:57:07 13-04-2005

    Personally, I just think it's a step in the wrong direction. Where will it all lead? We now have Guantanamo Bay powers of withholding suspected terrorists without so much as a hearing. Fingerprinting of the general public, a government lying to us about war. It's just (again, personally) a bit too much to take in all at once.

    You'll tell Thomas Cook all of your personal details, as well as where you go on your holidays.

    But that's because I choose to. If I want the government to know, I'll bloody well tell them, if I don't I won't.

    Maybe it's just me.

    Edited by morriss at 17:12:27 13-04-2005
  • Khanivor 13 Apr 2005 18:13:52 44,800 posts
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    This is nothing compared to the governments plans for road tolls. Using sattelites to track the position of every car on the road.

    THAT, is fucking scary.
  • morriss 13 Apr 2005 18:15:29 71,293 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    This is nothing compared to the governments plans for road tolls. Using sattelites to track the position of every car on the road.

    THAT, is fucking scary.

    Exactly. It's just too much surveillance of what we are doing and I don't like it.
  • Khanivor 13 Apr 2005 18:22:13 44,800 posts
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    I wonder how long it will be before, like the provisions in the RIP bill, local councils and fire services will able to locate you by your mobile phone signal.

    /pays as he goes
  • jiroczech 13 Apr 2005 18:23:28 2,669 posts
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    Next you'll start talking about RFID chips...

    /passes out tinfoil hats
  • Khanivor 13 Apr 2005 18:27:14 44,800 posts
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    I'm really concerned about the Major League Baseball sattelites.

    /dons tinfoil hat
  • morriss 13 Apr 2005 18:27:21 71,293 posts
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    jiroczech wrote:
    Next you'll start talking about RFID chips...

    /passes out tinfoil hats

    Next 'they'll' start talking about RFID chips at this rate! ;)

    /has hat already tyvm!
  • mal 13 Apr 2005 18:38:42 29,326 posts
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    Now RFID tags really are the scary stuff. Private companies can automatically see where you're going after you've bought something off them, muggers can quickly scan you to see how much money you've got on you before they do you in. That's scary, isn't it?

    No?

    Don't tell me it's only me that has multiple credit cards just so he can confuse their marketing databases?
  • morriss 13 Apr 2005 18:41:12 71,293 posts
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    I liked the idea in Minority Report where the advertisements actually greet you personally as you walk past them....

    Also I thought that shops would be able to text you as you got near inviting you inside, or letting you know about a certain deal they've got going?
  • deem 13 Apr 2005 18:43:12 31,667 posts
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  • sam_spade 13 Apr 2005 18:44:30 15,745 posts
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    Khanivor wrote:
    This is nothing compared to the governments plans for road tolls. Using sattelites to track the position of every car on the road.

    THAT, is fucking scary.

    SATELLITE UK05A TRACKING: Khanivor
    CAR REG: GAM3R
    SPEED 32MPH
    LOCATION: London
    AREA SPEED RESTRICTION: 30MPH

    BILLING PROCESS: SPEEDING FINE. 2 POINTS ON LICENSE

    LICENSE REVOKED!

    ACTIONS:
    SHUTTING DOWN VEHICLE
    BILLED £50 TO CREDIT CARD
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