Brazilian footballer invents new technique that could change the game as we know it! • Non-Gaming • Sport • Eurogamer.net

Deleted user 18 April 2005 15:40:24

It's called the 'seal dribble' and basically involves running down the pitch balancing the ball on your head. Problem is, there is virtually no legal way to tackle somebody doing this!

From the Beeb.

morriss 18 Apr 2005 15:42:39 71,293 posts
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It'll great to see it, but how many players can realistically learn it?

Tiger_Walts 18 Apr 2005 15:43:29 16,674 posts
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Standing in front of the player would work, it's not obstruction is it?

Plus, I'd like to see him try it against Roy Keane.

Edited by Tiger_Walts at 14:45:09 18-04-2005

mal 18 Apr 2005 15:46:57 29,326 posts
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According to the story, he could just run round you, while balancing the ball.

Sounds like a load of balls though - I'd need to see it in action.

Anyway, this reminds me of that time when someone decided to pick the ball up and run with it. That changed the game as we know it.

Deleted user 18 April 2005 15:50:20

Tiger_Walts wrote:
Standing in front of the player would work, it's not obstruction is it?

I'm pretty sure that is the very definition of obstruction. These days the unwritten rule sems to be as long as you are moving then you are "shepparding" and not actually obstructing, but I don't know where that's come from. The obstruction rule is tight up there with "the shoulder charge", as in, nobody really understands that one anymore I don't think.

morriss 18 Apr 2005 15:53:34 71,293 posts
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Shoulder barges are still allowed, however and if you can shoulder-barge somebody with the ball at their feet, then you must be able to do the same whe it's stuck to his head.There's no way you could keep the ball like that...or is there?

phAge 18 Apr 2005 15:53:50 25,487 posts
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Tiger_Walts wrote:

Plus, I'd like to see him try it against Roy Keane.

Or Jan Koller.

Deleted user 18 April 2005 16:00:37

Problem is, there is virtually no legal way to tackle somebody doing this!

Hence it would be illegal. Same as that mexican bloke who used to jump with the ball stuck between his feet.

Deleted user 18 April 2005 16:03:00

boabg wrote:
Problem is, there is virtually no legal way to tackle somebody doing this!

Hence it would be illegal. Same as that mexican bloke who used to jump with the ball stuck between his feet.

...but he still does that doesn't he? I wasn't aware that they had outlawed that.

Anyway, perhaps they will make it illegal, but currently it is fine afaik.

GrandTheftApu 18 Apr 2005 16:04:24 6,117 posts
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With the ball at that height could the defender not just challenge for the ball with his head? Even if that were not legal I'm sure after a couple of 'solid' challenges you'd think twice about starting of on a seal dribble.

markh 18 Apr 2005 16:08:00 3,599 posts
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this reminds me of one of my friend's ideas to weave a basket out of his hair and then when playing football to catch the ball in the basket and run it upfield..

otto Moderator 18 Apr 2005 16:10:55 49,322 posts
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marilena 18 Apr 2005 16:11:18 8,238 posts
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It can't change football as we know it, I doubt that more than two or three players in the world will ever be able to master it. And if the defenders know your trick, they'll find ways to prevent you from even trying it.

/waits for Fabio Canavaro or some other pretty italian to patent the anti-sealdribble technique

Edited by marilena at 15:11:27 18-04-2005

mal 18 Apr 2005 16:14:14 29,326 posts
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markh wrote:
this reminds me of one of my friend's ideas to weave a basket out of his hair and then when playing football to catch the ball in the basket and run it upfield..

o_O !

I reckon they'll outlaw this soon enough. The seal dribble, that is. Not the hair basket thing...

tannerd 18 Apr 2005 16:17:54 2,691 posts
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morriss wrote:
Shoulder barges are still allowed, however and if you can shoulder-barge somebody with the ball at their feet, then you must be able to do the same whe it's stuck to his head.There's no way you could keep the ball like that...or is there?

Try a shoulder barge in-front of a premiership ref and you'll conceed a free-kick.

Deleted user 18 April 2005 16:19:09

If you run alongside him and lean into him then that's using strength and therefore will not be illegal. Sounds more like playground football and fifa street than premier league though.

pjmaybe 18 Apr 2005 16:20:57 70,666 posts
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Surely nothing's to stop you running parallel to him and heading the ball off his head?
Or jumping up and doing so?

If you just happen to nut the twat in the process then that's just too bad

Peej

Gurgy 18 Apr 2005 16:22:31 2,924 posts
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Couldn't you just catch the ball under your shirt (on an upward bounce) and then run like buggery ?.

Edit

/Patents the "Beer Belly Dribble" move/

Edited by ReGuRgIt8oR at 15:26:49 18-04-2005

Deleted user 18 April 2005 16:23:27

tannerd wrote:

morriss wrote:
Shoulder barges are still allowed, however and if you can shoulder-barge somebody with the ball at their feet, then you must be able to do the same whe it's stuck to his head.There's no way you could keep the ball like that...or is there?

Try a shoulder barge in-front of a premiership ref and you'll conceed a free-kick.

Agreed. Offically it's not outlawed afaik, but they get a free-kick every time.

The thing is, as soon as you outlaw it, you open a can of worms. First you need to make a distinction between 'balancing' and 'heading'. Then is it just balancing on your head that is not allowed, or is it any part of yuor body? Potentially you could balance it on your knee and hop down the pitch.

It is things like this that do change the game as we know it, although maybe only to a very subtle degree. If they don't outlaw it, others will learn how to do it, and if they do, that will have implications for other parts of the game.

Deleted user 18 April 2005 16:29:36

The asian guy who does the foot juggling commercial also does this very well. I saw him at Old Trafford earlier in the season, doing a half time tricks routine, and he ran from the half way line to the edge of the box doing this. He then flicked it up and whacked it into the top corner. Great trick to see, but as someone already stated, a simple shoulder barge would suffice.

edit - My point being, it's not a new trick and he certainly hasn't 'invented' it....

Edited by Nipples at 15:30:28 18-04-2005

Tiger_Walts 18 Apr 2005 16:30:22 16,674 posts
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What currently annoys me is the wildly varying interpretation on the new rule on heavy tackles. Apparently now it is not enough to just touch the ball to make a tackle fair, should you fell the other player you run the risk of being penalised. Since it came into effect I've seen some perfectly good tackles being whistled.

Deleted user 18 April 2005 16:31:49

Nipples wrote:
The asian guy who does the foot juggling commercial also does this very well. I saw him at Old Trafford earlier in the season, doing a half time tricks routine, and he ran from the half way line to the edge of the box doing this. He then flicked it up and whacked it into the top corner. Great trick to see, but as someone already stated, a simple shoulder barge would suffice.

Mr Woo! \o/

I work for T-Mobile, and when we used him in our ad he came to our offices and did a little display for us. He really is absolutely incredible, and yes, he did do a couple of lengths of the room doing that very trick.

Captain-Fetid 18 Apr 2005 16:39:24 659 posts
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/tries right trigger+Y+B+B+360� R Analogue spin+B+B in PES4 to do the seal dribble.

eviltobz� 18 Apr 2005 16:55:45 2,609 posts
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as i see it, a good martial arts style jump kick well aimed will have it off his head. and a few good martial arts style jump kicks not so well aimed will convince him to stop it.

Whizzo 18 Apr 2005 16:59:48 44,810 posts
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The seal dribble is an interesting idea, I've often wondered how you'd get the ball off someone who flicks it onto the back of their neck and runs.

Obviously if matey is doing a seal dribble just club him...

sam_spade 18 Apr 2005 17:00:59 15,745 posts
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Surely all the loose change flying from the stands would knock it off?

"A good martial arts style jump kick well aimed will have it off his head."

Falls foul (badoomtish) of the high-tackle rule.

Edited by sam_spade at 16:01:56 18-04-2005

Derblington 18 Apr 2005 17:02:40 35,161 posts
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kalel wrote:

Nipples wrote:
The asian guy who does the foot juggling commercial also does this very well. I saw him at Old Trafford earlier in the season, doing a half time tricks routine, and he ran from the half way line to the edge of the box doing this. He then flicked it up and whacked it into the top corner. Great trick to see, but as someone already stated, a simple shoulder barge would suffice.

Mr Woo! \o/

I work for T-Mobile, and when we used him in our ad he came to our offices and did a little display for us. He really is absolutely incredible, and yes, he did do a couple of lengths of the room doing that very trick.

Can't actually play that well though apparently.

The-Old-Bill 18 Apr 2005 17:09:36 5,101 posts
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Mr. Woo used to play professionaly but was forced out do to injury. He can play fairly good, considering his age.

Salaman 18 Apr 2005 17:11:26 24,162 posts
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Whizzo wrote:
Obviously if matey is doing a seal dribble just club him...

rofl.

Deleted user 19 April 2005 10:57:29

My point is, if you can't get the ball off the guy without fouling him or risking him an injury then what he's doing will be deemed illegal.

The fact it's not been picked up on may be due to the level he's currently playing at.