Firmware upgrade? • Non-Gaming • Apple, Mac, and iPod • Eurogamer.net

mentat 19 Apr 2005 09:26:00 5,613 posts
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Something that really bothers me with my ipod is the way that when it's been off for a couple of days, or when you attach it to a pc, it totally forgets what it was playing at the time. My zen used to remember it's position in the playlist until you chose something else.

Is there anything i can do to get my ipod to work in the same way?

[maven] 19 Apr 2005 09:27:48 5,799 posts
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Stop the battery from running completely empty should do the trick.
/plays everything on shuffle anyway

mentat 19 Apr 2005 09:29:44 5,613 posts
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[maven] wrote:
Stop the battery from running completely empty should do the trick.
/plays everything on shuffle anyway

No. That's not the problem.
When it shuts down having not been used over a weekend, or when i plug it into the pc it loses it's place.
The battery has never run right down.

Deleted user 27 April 2005 00:47:34

Aye I know what oyu mean mentat, it's a right pain the arse. Dunno what to about it though I'm afraid mate, sorry!

Shivoa 27 Apr 2005 09:32:48 6,314 posts
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What really knacks me off is when it forgets the click preference so from being totally silent to use it just turns on the click when button press noise after a while of not being used.

Shivoa 27 Apr 2005 12:59:30 6,314 posts
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Must be a freak of my player. All the other settings are saved but that one seems to default, on all firmware upgrades I've had the same.

Soumis 27 Apr 2005 17:37:37 216 posts
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I am having the same problem with the clicker :-(

Deleted user 27 April 2005 18:20:27

otto wrote:
Eh? It doesn't do that. Preferences are saved. Only a reflash would wipe those.

No sir, when it turns off it wipes the settings. Happens on mine too.

mal 27 Apr 2005 19:18:52 29,326 posts
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otto wrote:
The reason it does that apparently is because normally the iPod just goes to sleep but the hard drive keeps spinning, only if you haven't used it for a day does it power down completely, including the hard drive, to prevent unnecessary wear & tear. I assume that when it powers down the drive it can't 'remember' where it left off. Firmware upgrade won't help I'm afraid (unless you can find a haxxie to stop it powering down which won't help your battery or disk life).

It's not that simple. The hard disc's head doesn't hover over the track when it's on pause, like a CD does (or a record does if you lift the needle). In fact, because of the anti-skip stuff, it probably doesn't hover over the track even when it's playing it.

I don't see why the iPod couldn't write it's record of what track it's playing to the hard disc (or any flash RAM it's got) when it powers down, but obviously they didn't think to do that. It's the powering down of dynamic RAM which causes it to forget what it's doing, not the hard disc.

ssuellid 27 Apr 2005 19:21:32 19,142 posts
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Does this happen with all iPods? The wife was thinking about getting one but this would piss her right off - her car CD multichanger doesn't remember its place either and that really pisses her off.

Deleted user 27 April 2005 22:19:06

Wack! Maybe yours are magic

Deleted user 27 April 2005 22:21:58

I've resigned to the clicker now. Quite often my iPod will stay off for a couple days and I can't be fucked to keep going back and turning it off.

May I also add that I wish I had an automatic assault rifle to pepper the crowd of students on the street outside my flat with hot, vengeful lead?

montywithnail 28 Apr 2005 10:00:57 430 posts
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Blimey, mouse is yours a 4G? My 3G clciker stays firmly off despite letting it run down completely on a couple of occasions. Other things tlike the clock have reset but not the clicking or the main menu settings

Otherwise I would have gone postal my now, there is nothing more annoyng that mobile phone keysounds or clicking ipods

Deleted user 28 April 2005 10:08:58

Yup, 4G it is. Sorry I didn't say before, I couldn't actually remember which G it was :/

otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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The reason it does that apparently is because normally the iPod just goes to sleep but the hard drive keeps spinning, only if you haven't used it for a day does it power down completely, including the hard drive, to prevent unnecessary wear & tear. I assume that when it powers down the drive it can't 'remember' where it left off. Firmware upgrade won't help I'm afraid (unless you can find a haxxie to stop it powering down which won't help your battery or disk life).

otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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Eh? It doesn't do that. Preferences are saved. Only a reflash would wipe those.

otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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mouse wrote:

otto wrote:
Eh? It doesn't do that. Preferences are saved. Only a reflash would wipe those.

No sir, when it turns off it wipes the settings. Happens on mine too.

It doesn't happen on my 2G or my 3G.

otto Moderator 28 May 2007 11:16:19 49,322 posts
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That must be it.

edit - can I add that if my iPod did that (start clicking) it'd be on a one way trip out of the nearest window?

Edited by otto at 22:20:06 27-04-2005