| Pele himself was the target of being hacked down all the time.. he's frequently admitted to being forced to take matters into his own hands, to defend himself.. Not unlike we recently witnessed Ronaldo chop that defender down after being hassled by him.. Despite their skill and natural flair Brazilian footballers are brutal, rest assured he'll cope with that.. Only "danger" is of course the women.. if they become more attractive to him than training.. his career will end before its started.. =) |
Incredible footage of a 9 year old footballing prodigy. • Page 2
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Menace 5,887 posts
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Registered 17 years agoQuite alot of strikers drop back into defence in their development, if they're big enough. This doesn't mean they're the best shots. -
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Registered 20 years agoJC2 wrote:
...ah come on, your argument is ridiculous. of course strikers pass in the 6 yard box. Watch any football game and you see it. And loads of players start out in different possitions. Look at toure. Started out as a midfielder and is now Arsenals central defender.
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Registered 18 years agoBest example of a striker that can't make a pass is Milan Baros.. its head down, straight for the goal and shoot. It works for him - sometimes.. when it doesn't he's not worth a thing to the team.. Even though I dislike Raul he's a real workhose and a good example of a complete forward, sniping, poaching and working his ass off every game.. I'd say Nistelrooy is the same btw. -
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Registered 17 years agoRaul is the same type of player as Henry, they play in more of a free role. I'd say Van Nistelrooy is more of an out and out striker, although I do see where you are coming from. -
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Registered 20 years agoI think we're gonna have to agree to disagree on the striker front, MC. -
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Registered 17 years agoMaybe he's making a comment on your musical talents? -
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Registered 17 years agodeem wrote:
Yes, I do, but to put him anywhere near the bracket of 'failure' is a huge misjustice as far as I'm concerned.
I know he could have been better, but what he did was enough.
I meant that he was a failure to himself. Although I wish I could fail like him, don't you?.gif)
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Menace 5,887 posts
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Registered 18 years agoThe Old Bill wrote:
Raul is the same type of player as Henry, they play in more of a free role. I'd say Van Nistelrooy is more of an out and out striker, although I do see where you are coming from.
Yeah.. they all drop deep into midfield and chase a lot of loose balls.. (not sure about Henry though, as I haven't seen many games with him, except for the highlight reels)
There's pro's and cons's of course.. if your striker isn't in the box someone else will have to take that spot.. and if he's only prancing around not taking part in the defensive part of the game, he really has to be effective when he finally does get the ball - and relies heavily on good playmakers feeding him all the time.. -
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Registered 17 years agoMenace wrote:
Very true, hence the role of the target man.
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Menace 5,887 posts
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Registered 18 years agoBeckham is the opposite.. he passes too much sometimes.. with that foot of his he should take more shots on goal..
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Menace 5,887 posts
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Registered 18 years agoThe Old Bill wrote:
Menace wrote:
Very true, hence the role of the target man.
There's pro's and cons's of course
Yeah.. there's also the question of definition.. To me a striker is just that.. he's like Romario.. he'll always be in or around the box. Invisible for most of the game, but somehow just manages to get the job done - and done well..
Then there's the forwards, the more all-round player. He can go both deep and hold the ball up, aswell as finish in the box..
A third category could be the supporting target man.. his job is mainly to hold on to the ball, or flick it on to his partner in crime - often a striker/forward type..
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of course some players have it all.. Mark Hughes was a fantastic target man, and his finishing was spot on also..
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Registered 17 years agoTrue, the best players are a bit of everyting, as it means it is almost impossible to shut down there game. -
gnomelover 65 posts
Registered 17 years agoYeah, gonna agree with most people here. He's amazing with his feet and a dead-eye with his shots, but someone needs to teach him that shooting is an option. On a couple of those he was at a terrible angle with at least one other striker wide open in front of an empty net and he chose to take the shot anyway. That may work for him now, but against even competition that's not going to cut it. Hopefully he learns his place. -
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Registered 18 years agoThe Old Bill wrote:
Quite alot of strikers drop back into defence in their development, if they're big enough. This doesn't mean they're the best shots.
Example: Dion Dublin.
And I totally agree with JC2. Of course strikers pass in the six yard box! Another example: Rooney in Euro 2004, set up Scholes with a header when he could have had an attempt at goal. -
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Registered 17 years agoExample: Dion Dublin.
Dion Dublin was a superb player. It's a shame we never got to see if he would make it at Man U, due to his injury. -
I agree. But he now plays in defence.
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