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  • Gregolution 2 Oct 2016 19:14:00 10,060 posts
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    @Rusty_M

    Mate... don't get a 4K monitor. I've got a 1080 and was tempted by 4K but I'm SO glad I got the 1440p asus. I can dial every game up to the highest level and it looks incredible in 1440. Have tried some games in 4K since getting a tv and the 1080 can't do it. You have to cut down a fair bit of detail in most games for stable frame rate. Not worth it.

    1440 is the sweet spot.
  • Rusty_M 2 Oct 2016 20:03:33 7,166 posts
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    Cheers, guys. Now it's time to obsess over prices. You all know how it is, I'm sure!
  • yegon 2 Oct 2016 20:23:24 6,511 posts
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    Totally agree. 1440p with GSync is absolutely superb.
  • Rusty_M 3 Oct 2016 14:32:26 7,166 posts
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    My god, finding the xb271hu in stock seems to be difficult. Looks like they were recently recalled due to some issue when alt-tabbing.
  • Rusty_M 8 Oct 2016 16:00:25 7,166 posts
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    Oh my god, you guys weren't wrong about 1440p 144Hz Gsync! The increased size and resolution is even great for browsing. Also, I now have a second monitor!
  • Rusty_M 9 Oct 2016 09:41:20 7,166 posts
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    @Furtive_Pygmy my old monitor is still set up for the times I want two screens. Even moving the mouse is noticeably less smooth
  • Malek86 11 Oct 2016 11:32:54 10,179 posts
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    Still thinking about getting a Freesync monitor, and I have a few questions:

    1) If you enable Freesync from the control panel (I saw the option), does it work with all games or only modern ones?
    2) I guess there's no point in keeping Vsync enabled, but what happens if/when the framerate goes above the maximum ranges?

    Edited by Malek86 at 11:33:22 11-10-2016
  • Malek86 21 Oct 2016 17:28:49 10,179 posts
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    So I ended up getting that monitor.

    Noticed one annoying thing: even though I could set up to 75hz, and it does look a bit smoother in certain games, some other titles (especially older games or emulators) that won't go above 60fps, will stutter with a different refresh rate.

    Maybe I'm better off sticking to 60hz.
  • Mekanik 21 Oct 2016 19:13:35 4,688 posts
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    Are there games that cap their fps at 60?

    Check your xbox app thing. Under settings > Game DVR. Make sure it is turned off, otherwise it can cap games at a % of your refresh rate (i dont think it has been patched out yet at least).
  • Toaster05 12 Nov 2016 14:38:32 2,317 posts
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    Sending back my Acer Predator owing to the massive stand not fitting on my already massive desk. Are the Rog Swift ones any more accommodating?
  • THFourteen 12 Nov 2016 19:55:43 53,839 posts
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    Could you not just buy a desk monitor mount?
  • Toaster05 12 Nov 2016 20:37:43 2,317 posts
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    @THFourteen Well that wasn't the only issue I had with the monitor but it was a big factor in me looking elsewhere.

    I'm not a massive fan of the Acer Predator design to be honest but I thought I'd give it a go. For me the Asus design language is a little more refined so I'm going to go that route.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 12 Nov 2016 22:41:22 3,963 posts
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    I want a decent rotatable monitor suitable for old school shmups (native and emulated) with decent input lag. Doesn't seem to be a category with many comparisons though...
  • uiruki 12 Nov 2016 23:15:18 5,253 posts
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    I'm not saying spend £700 on a monitor but my Acer XB270HU does a great job of anything emulated because Gsync removes stutter on all games with unusual refresh rates.

    That one only has DisplayPort input but I gather that there's at least one Asus Gsync monitor which would let you plug your PS4 into it for the upcoming Battle Garegga release. I think if you're going the Gsync route then it should have low input lag pretty much by default as the nVidia module does all the scaling etc and that's constant between them all. If you have an AMD setup I'm not sure how the difference between Freesync units manifests itself.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 13 Nov 2016 11:32:38 3,963 posts
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    700 is probably a bit rich for my tastes (I assume that one is rotatable) but it seems a category that is hard to find gaming roundups for as most seem to cater to professional use (which is where input lag becomes less of a priority). I would use standard orientation most of te time but the option for easy rotation would be a nice bonus.
  • Bowzer43 13 Nov 2016 13:41:34 1,891 posts
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    @One_Vurfed_Gwrx have a look at the Benq range. They do rotatable screens with options of TN, VA, and IPS.
    They are pretty good price /performance if you are not wanting to spend a fortune.
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 13 Nov 2016 19:02:36 3,963 posts
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    @Bowzer43 Thanks for the reply. Have to investigate to find a blance between price, input lag and pocture quality (I gather fast TN don't always rotate well)
  • Bowzer43 13 Nov 2016 19:08:07 1,891 posts
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    @One_Vurfed_Gwrx it's an absolute minefield to be fair.
    I'm currently looking for a decent 1440p IPS† monitor, preferably at 144hz but unless I want to spend £500+ it's not going to happen.

    Probably end up getting a 60hz one at around £300, but to some here that's a poor compromise, but I only have so many pennies to spend!
  • uiruki 13 Nov 2016 19:22:33 5,253 posts
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    If you're happy with 1080 then I think you can spend a lot less. 1440 is really nice if you do any kind of work on your computer though; things like Windows Snap become a lot more useful.

    Acer and Asus both do 180hz overclockable TN Gsync monitors at 1080 for about £400. Acer's XB241YU is 1440 and has HDMI for a little over that, and that definitely rotates. If you've got the budget and the graphics card I think the benefits in emulation are worth the cash, assuming you're going to keep hold of it for a while. At least that's what I told myself.

    It's basically paying a couple hundred quid for each of the things you may want: IPS, Gsync, higher resolution.

    Edited by uiruki at 19:25:07 13-11-2016
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 13 Nov 2016 21:59:58 3,963 posts
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    I've always tended to try and have the graphics spec to run what I want so mever really looked at Gsync, and emulation is mostly cpubound. Debating if I need 1440P for normal stuff or not as generally quite happy with 1080P. My last monitor was a cheapy bit randomly died (possibly just the psu cable but not investigated) so currently stuck on a backup 1680x1050 one I got free with some PC stuff so was thinking if I do upgrade it might be worth having a few other bonus features like rotation. Is IPS fast enough these days for lag for arcade shmups and the like?
  • Toaster05 24 Nov 2016 15:10:02 2,317 posts
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    I've got an extremely painful wallet but just ordered a ASUS PG279Q.

    Just have to hope that that I win the IPS panel lottery.
  • uiruki 24 Nov 2016 16:46:08 5,253 posts
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    One_Vurfed_Gwrx wrote:
    I've always tended to try and have the graphics spec to run what I want so mever really looked at Gsync, and emulation is mostly cpubound. Debating if I need 1440P for normal stuff or not as generally quite happy with 1080P. My last monitor was a cheapy bit randomly died (possibly just the psu cable but not investigated) so currently stuck on a backup 1680x1050 one I got free with some PC stuff so was thinking if I do upgrade it might be worth having a few other bonus features like rotation. Is IPS fast enough these days for lag for arcade shmups and the like?
    Whoops, missed this. I think the big advantage with Gsync for arcade emulators is that it deals with unusual refresh rates smoothly - stuff like R-Type or Raiden Fighters or anything that runs on Sega's 3D boards.

    In terms of input latency the Gsync module is very fast. I saw a site which measured the Acer at just a few milliseconds (not including pixel change time). In terms of pixel response/blurring they're much better than older IPS models but they still aren't perfect. You can mitigate it to an extent by using ULMB (LED strobing to cover the frame transition time) if you're happy with a fixed refresh rate and aren't sensitive to flicker.

    Different games work best in different modes if you're willing to customise - something on MAME which runs at a funny refresh rate might do better with Gsync but if you are running a PC port of something then fixed refresh plus strobing would have less blur. Personally I just keep Gsync on as my first run Acer doesn't have the 60Hz ULMB mode.

    Edited by uiruki at 16:51:25 24-11-2016
  • One_Vurfed_Gwrx 24 Nov 2016 18:04:09 3,963 posts
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    @uiruki thanks for the update, I forgot a bit some of the weird arcade refresh rates like the 58/59 hz stuff... I had ablittle look around and saw Benq and Dell monitors tend to be rotatable but you have the choice between TN and IPS to look at. I suppose at the highend TN prices it isn't that much more to a 400 or so Gsync. Need to work on funds some time :)
  • Toaster05 25 Nov 2016 19:11:38 2,317 posts
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    Well my PG279Q has arrived and .... not sure if this is normal? For 700 quid I'd expect better.

  • superdelphinus 25 Nov 2016 19:23:18 10,346 posts
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    Looks a bit crap
  • gamecat 25 Nov 2016 19:25:08 985 posts
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    Camera pic makes it look bad, may be ok in the real world. Took a pic of mine (freesync version anyway) that I've not noticed much bleed on, and it looks worse!
  • THFourteen 25 Nov 2016 19:59:03 53,839 posts
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    Toaster05 wrote:
    Well my PG279Q has arrived and .... not sure if this is normal? For 700 quid I'd expect better.

    You might have got a duff one, its a known issue with this monitor i think

    http://edgeup.asus.com/2016/03/17/on-backlight-bleed-with-the-rog-swift-pg279q-gaming-monitor/
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