mothercruncher wrote:Exactly how it happens with Googles or Microsofts offers. I have a MBP for work and a Moto X as a phone. Notes, emails, photos, spreadsheets, text documents etc sync. I had a Windows Phone and the same was true for that. Would work across OSX, Chrome, Android or Windows. I realise this feel like magic to someone who has only ever used Apple software but trust me, Apple are the laggard in this area, not the gold standard. The only thing that doesn't coincidentally also happens to be the only thing where Apple software isn't a complete joke, i.e. Keynote. I love Keynote and that is the one reason I'm not changing to a Chromebook TBH. Not that I need new hardware, my 2010 MBP got given new life, after Mavericks turned it into a sluggish nightmare, by installing an SSD and for more GB of RAM now up to 8 GB. I'm very pleased with it and the same goes for my 2006 iMac that still chugs away nicely (possibly because it's held back to SnowLeopard and does little more than browsing after I realised that iPhoto was designed on the false premise that people could only take 36 images a week with their cameras. mothercruncher wrote:I don't care if I'm missing a couple of megaflops or gigarams, I hate nursing technology into life when shit inexplicably stops working. I've had plenty of Android phones and a couple of Blackberrys in the past- I do less twitting about with Apple, which leaves me more time to be devastatingly awesome.This is another complete myth. It might have been like that three or four years ago but ever since I started on Android (with ICS) there have been some major benefits straight out of the box. And what's more, Android has taken the lead in letting people be devastatingly awesome without tinkering recently with Apple playing catch up. Seeing WWDC15 and Google I/O 15 was funny to someone with a bit of insight in both OSes (admittedly my iOS knowledge is dropping rapidly) At a rough estimate I'd give the "Who is stealing ideas from the other" scoreboard 1 for android and 5 for apple. It's alos telling how the only high ground people in this thread have left to run for is the build quality. I can only see that as a massive admittance that Apple has dropped the ball software wise. As for tablets they are for kids and as such Apples are better. Mainly due to kids being to stupid not to put their grubby little fingers on the on-screen buttons of Android tablets, thus constantly being thrown out of their cute little SAGO Mini game. |
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Registered 16 years agoDirtbox wrote:
...and then within 4 minutes...
That's some next level paranoia you've got there.
Dirtbox wrote:
Also might be a little persecution complex on my part, since I'm always apparently the most visible naysayer about literally everything on the entire forum. Or at least it feels that way with all the scottish pedophiles and Sony fans that follow me around doggedly. -
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Registered 17 years agoI'm curious. What can Android do without a walled garden that Apple can't?
No need to mention the reliance on the godawful iTunes that Apple has, as we all know that. Not interested in amimated backgrounds either.
New iPhone, ATV and something about a 'mega' tablet rumoured to be revealed in early Sept. Whatever they show, it'll be expensive. -
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Registered 15 years agoAll I'd like for my ATV would be a better Youtube interface. -
Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agobeastmaster wrote:
It's not about the walled garden or not, it's about the complete integration of google services. OK, not sure if there are full on BitTorrent apps and file managers on iOS yet. But let's look through what Apple has found "pouch worthy" from Android over the last few years.
I'm curious. What can Android do without a walled garden that Apple can't?
* Any screen size (Apple had to spend a LOT of effort on making this happen)
* Share information between apps (again, complete re-write of iOS to copy this feature)
* Third party keyboards (See above, Apple found it worth while)
* Contextbased services a la Google NOW, (Apple gave a lot of stage time to their limpid attempt that was basically a 2 year old 3rd party Android launcher)
* Bullet lists in notes, Images in notes, URLs in notes (I honestly didn't realize how poor the Apple notes app was)
* Searchable Images (yeah... not really happening for Apple I'm afraid, will take a major shift in philosophy and one I'm not sure they're willing to take)
* Emails adding calendar posts (is this automated yet on iOS?)
* Syncing shit in the cloud... (weird one since Apple were early on this ball but has continued to fail)
* Deeplinking in Apps (It will change EVERYTHING the Apple blogs say, I know, I've been using it for over a year and it's awesome)
* Search and install apps on my phone from the webb (is this on iOS yet?)
* Snazzy App store in the search result
And that's me without tinkering. And most of it is not because of walled garden but because Google are better at software and services which is the main diferentiator now that hardware is a commodity.
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Registered 16 years agoAndroid is customisable to within an inch of its life. If you think of a feature, you can probably change how it functions half a dozen ways.
You can also load anything onto it, it is based on unix, so if you are familiar with that, theres a lot of pissing about you can do, it has a traditional unix-esque file structure so you can use the storage how you want and navigate around it...
if I was 15 years younger, it would have been my wet dream but all excitement for tech has been beaten out of me and I just want to be told what to do and how to do it. -
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Registered 16 years agoTonka wrote:
Yeah, but you contrast all that with the iphone having a far deeper and better range of apps, the apps not being an afterthought, imessage, security, OS standardisation without shiity bloatware and full device searching which are important to the average user.
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Android will remain uninteresting to me as long as absolutely nobody in the business world uses it. Professional apps for my line of work? 99% iOS exclusive.
I guess Android is great if you're a 20-something that likes to tinker with IT-related stuff, but that's not me.
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Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoDon't get me wrong, I do not care if you have an iPhone or a Windows phone or a Blackberry or Android. If you have a John's Phone I might think you're trying too hard but other than that I don't care.
But I'm tired of all the misunderstandings regarding Android, all based on Steve Jobs going thermo nuclear. All modern phones are basically the same. From $300 up there's at best (worst) a 10% difference. Some get cooler games and trendy new social media apps sooner, other are better for business, some for hobby photographers.
People still thinking there is one "BEST PHONE 2015" are deluded. Paying twice as much for an iPhone 6 compared to a Moto X 2014 and thinking you get twice as much value is also deluded.
Apple might make things that lasts in the "doesn't break" sense but you'll still wan't a new phone one or two years down the line. So why shelling out all that extra cash?
It's like a friend of mine who bought a really expensive macro lense for his camera so that he could take images of ants. Wtf, spend that money on a weekend in Florence and get something worth while to take pictures of. -
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Registered 16 years agoThere's only so much time I can devote to tinkering with stuff in my average week, and I'll be damned if I'm wasting any that on personalising a fucking phone. -
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Registered 18 years agoUncleLou wrote:
Do you mean 20-somthing in the business of running servers and using your phone to do it?
I guess Android is great if you're a 20-something that likes to tinker with IT-related stuff, but that's not me.
I'm 40 and I fucking HATE tinkering with IT-related stuff. Professionally I need a good calendar, email and document sharing. Which I think is true for 95%+ of the office slaves. -
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Registered 18 years agoelstoof wrote:
Yeah right, post a screenshot of your home screen and we'll see how standardised it is.
There's only so much time I can devote to tinkering with stuff in my average week, and I'll be damned if I'm wasting any that on personalising a fucking phone. -
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Registered 19 years agonickthegun wrote:
Hangouts will pretty much do exactly the same thing as I message, just in a less transparent way. Full device search has been around on android for quite some time too. Security on android can be as good for corporate users. We insist on mobileiron on all corporate devices as even IOS by default doesnt allow some security features.
Tonka wrote:
Yeah, but you contrast all that with the iphone having a far deeper and better range of apps, the apps not being an afterthought, imessage, security, OS standardisation without shiity bloatware and full device searching which are important to the average user.
blah
OS standardisation is the only benefit I can see but that can still allow for customisation in general use. My only real nag with android is that different handsets can be quite different depending on which overlay is used, the way you do things is the same, just the look and feel can be offputting to some users. If you use a nexus/vanilla devices and stay with devices of that type you pretty much have that standardisation. -
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Registered 16 years agoTonka wrote:
No one thinks that. My mrs lost her phone on holiday and we just bought, funnily enough, the new moto g and its amazing. It easily gets the better of my iphone 5 but its not an iphone.
People still thinking there is one "BEST PHONE 2015" are deluded. Paying twice as much for an iPhone 6 compared to a Moto X 2014 and thinking you get twice as much value is also deluded.
The last paragraph you wrote illustrates why this argument is so annoying because you cant see the wood for the trees. Maybe your friend likes taking pictures of ants, so to him its money well spent. Look beyond the end of your nose. -
Hay guys I was wondering what the best phone is for taking pictures of ants -
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Registered 16 years agoTonka wrote:
Worthwhile in your judgement, perhaps, but who are you to judge? Is wildlife photography a less horourable hobby than taking holiday snaps of a building that literally millions of others have the exact same photo of
It's like a friend of mine who bought a really expensive macro lense for his camera so that he could take images of ants. Wtf, spend that money on a weekend in Florence and get something worth while to take pictures of. -
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From personal experience the original moto g is the best for taking pics of ants as it spends most of its time on the floor when it slides out of your hand.. -
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Registered 15 years agoHas anyone mentioned that Google are a bit smelly and that therefore people who use Android- and especially go to great lengths to defend them- are smelly too?
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PES_Fanboy wrote:
It depends. Are they Florentine ants? If not, you're wasting your time.
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Registered 17 years agoA pretty impressive feature list for Andriod there. All of which are "nice to haves" for me but not essential. I tried Andriod and it wasn't for me so just hope Apple pinch some of their best ideas and claim them as their own .gif)
What's with the S6 then? Not very popular are they? One guy from work got one and lost his rag when he found out they were doing an Apple on the hardware. Sold it on e-bay and got a 1+2 (never heard of them before) but he paid around £300 for what appears to be a very decent phone. -
nickthegun wrote:
There are enough Android phones that cost just as much as an iPhone, so I am not entirely sure what that has to do with Apple?
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S6 lol pay Apple prices for all that hardware 8 core processor lol but still has worse frame rate on games than dual core iPhone lol cos 2k screen
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