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Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Kichijoten 4,555 posts
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Registered 8 years agoOllyJ wrote:
Elvis was popular because he was that white guy (see Eminem). He stole the music and went pop. Led zeppelin are incredible but they stole the music again, most of their first album was straight up theft.
@Kichijoten Elvis and Led Zep...used in negative terms? Are you actually on actual crack? -
And you should never steal artists work. -
iancognito 2,476 posts
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Registered 14 years agoElvis and Led Zeppelin, you say...
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Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoKichijoten wrote:
Elvis wasn't popular because of his voice, looks and charisma.
OllyJ wrote:
Elvis was popular because he was that white guy (see Eminem). He stole the music and went pop. Led zeppelin are incredible but they stole the music again, most of their first album was straight up theft.
@Kichijoten Elvis and Led Zep...used in negative terms? Are you actually on actual crack?
He was just white.
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You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI can understand where the idea that white people "steal" black people's music comes from, but unless you are a downtrodden African American (which Revan may well be this week) then it's not really a view you can be excused for expressing. It's pretty ignorant and more than a little racist. -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoKichijoten wrote:
"most of their first album was straight up theft" is a massive exaggeration and stupidly disrespectful of wonderful songwriters and one of the most influential bands of all time.
OllyJ wrote:
Elvis was popular because he was that white guy (see Eminem). He stole the music and went pop. Led zeppelin are incredible but they stole the music again, most of their first album was straight up theft.
@Kichijoten Elvis and Led Zep...used in negative terms? Are you actually on actual crack? -
Kichijoten 4,555 posts
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Registered 8 years agoIts fact that that they used to steal. The steeling isn't there now due to copyright laws but the white branding still happens. Any new genre or sub genre pops up the record labels will manufacture some white acts to top the charts, meanwhile the originators are left out. If iggy was black she wouldn't have even got a look in, she white so she topped the charts everywhere. -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoKichijoten wrote:
iggy?
Its fact that that they used to steal. The steeling isn't there now due to copyright laws but the white branding still happens. Any new genre or sub genre pops up the record labels will manufacture some white acts to top the charts, meanwhile the originators are left out. If iggy was black she wouldn't have even got a look in, she white so she topped the charts everywhere. -
Kichijoten 4,555 posts
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Registered 8 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
just for starters the three biggest tracks on 1 were just straight up stolen.
Kichijoten wrote:
"most of their first album was straight up theft" is a massive exaggeration and stupidly disrespectful of wonderful songwriters and one of the most influential bands of all time.
OllyJ wrote:
Elvis was popular because he was that white guy (see Eminem). He stole the music and went pop. Led zeppelin are incredible but they stole the music again, most of their first album was straight up theft.
@Kichijoten Elvis and Led Zep...used in negative terms? Are you actually on actual crack? -
Okay I can't take this anymore. Regardless of all of the other, valid points which make your posts hilarious, you CANNOT wax lyrical about music theft when hip hop - even those artists which you consider black enough - is fundamentally based on sampling. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoKichijoten wrote:
For real yo? Straight up?
the three biggest tracks on 1 were just straight up stolen. -
Dondiggler 313 posts
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Registered 8 years agoreggy72 wrote:
There was a time when my brothers and I could pretty much quote every line of that film!!
Does anyone remember that NWA spoof film called CB4? "Straight outa low cash"!
Chris Rock at his best classic!!!
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minky-kong 14,787 posts
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Registered 13 years agoArmoured_Bear wrote:
Kichijoten wrote:
iggy?
Its fact that that they used to steal. The steeling isn't there now due to copyright laws but the white branding still happens. Any new genre or sub genre pops up the record labels will manufacture some white acts to top the charts, meanwhile the originators are left out. If iggy was black she wouldn't have even got a look in, she white so she topped the charts everywhere.
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Alastair 24,828 posts
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Registered 20 years agoPES_Fanboy wrote:
Ho ho!
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Kichijoten 4,555 posts
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Registered 8 years agoHip hop is more about the lyrics and like you say it is samples, short bits chopped up to make a new sound. Led zeppelin on dazed and confused and bring it on home for example are just fully used with no writers credit. In hip hop albums the original cut gets a credit on the track list. -
Goban 10,121 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThey do now, certainly didn't in the early days. -
PES_Fanboy wrote:
Of other black peoples music so it is allowed as it's supporting the community. 90% of popular music since the 1950's has been "this is good let's find a white person who can do it because then we can sell it." (Actual Radio 4 quote)
Okay I can't take this anymore. Regardless of all of the other, valid points which make your posts hilarious, you CANNOT wax lyrical about music theft when hip hop - even those artists which you consider black enough - is fundamentally based on sampling. -
Kichijoten 4,555 posts
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Registered 8 years agoGus wrote:
jake Holmes, muddy waters and howlin wolf. All three were not even re arranged much and none got credit.
Kichijoten wrote:
For real yo? Straight up?
the three biggest tracks on 1 were just straight up stolen. -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoKichijoten wrote:
The black artist that Jimmy Page stole Dazed and Confused from (the one in the middle):
Hip hop is more about the lyrics and like you say it is samples, short bits chopped up to make a new sound. Led zeppelin on dazed and confused and bring it on home for example are just fully used with no writers credit. In hip hop albums the original cut gets a credit on the track list.
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Hound Dog by Elvis was originally sang by a fat black woman from Kansas which makes the lyrics make more sense. -
Kichijoten 4,555 posts
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Registered 8 years agoGreat song. -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoKichijoten wrote:
The Original
Gus wrote:
jake Holmes, muddy waters and howlin wolf. All three were not even re arranged much and none got credit.
Kichijoten wrote:
For real yo? Straight up?
the three biggest tracks on 1 were just straight up stolen.
The Cover that's "not even re arranged much"
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Kichijoten 4,555 posts
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Registered 8 years agoAb you're moving off topic anyway. I was wanting to focus on the modern point. -
Goban 10,121 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThere is hardly a lack of black artists making it big in HipHop and RnB. -
Armoured_Bear 31,233 posts
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Registered 10 years agoKichijoten wrote:
Dear Kichijoten, not remotely off topic, I'm afraid.
Ab you're moving off topic anyway. I was wanting to focus on the modern point. -
Kichijoten 4,555 posts
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Registered 8 years agoGoban wrote:
but it's lost its soul. Half of hip hop and rnb just sounds like pop and dance music. Down to the white run record labels and music television.
There is hardly a lack of black artists making it big in HipHop and RnB. -
The-Bodybuilder 17,871 posts
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Registered 17 years agogodofporn wrote:
Eminem is arguably the best (I'd put Has and the underrated Andre 3000 next to him).
@Kichijoten Eminem is better then most rappers, in fact he is my top rapper easily. You might not like him for what he is up to now, but he was a beast back in the day. And oh rap God just killed every other rapper claiming there some rap kings etc.
He's just a shit producer and needs to stop producing his stuff.
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Goban 10,121 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThere's plenty with soul, it's just the mainstream you have a beef with and that criticism can be levelled at all genres of music. -
elstoof wrote:
recorded under apartheid. quite controversial at the time and during its reissue few years back. http://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/apr/19/paul-simon-graceland-acclaim-outrage
I'm still shocked no one talks about Paul Simon singlehandedly destroying World Music with the release of Graceland, typical white man move.
led zep: pretty famous for their plagiarism. was it settled whether they lifted the stairway intro off that band? fun stuff. that said, they also have one of the best rhythm sections of all time. that also said, there's also all those maddening lord of the rings folk songs.
carry on...
Edited by gravearchitecture at 18:04:25 09-09-2015
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