Introducing "Shadow Gangs", 80's arcade inspired ninja game Page 48

  • Dirt3 14 May 2020 20:45:00 1,178 posts
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    KnuttinAtoll wrote:
    Dirt3 wrote:
    If I was doing this for my marketing stratgey I would look to the professionals.

    Do a £x edition that has the bonus of two extra characters and maybe some random piece of tat included, A 'T' shirt ?

    Then the standard price is £y.

    Lower the price gradually over time.

    Release the "game of the year" edition in 6 months time with the two extra characters included for about £x/10 and a voucher for any of the unsold T shirts.

    Actually a t shirt is a bit too useful to be video game tat.

    Edit : maybe it should be a plastic baseball bat.
    Would you seriously wear a t-shirt in the public with "SHADOWGANGS" written on it?
    Yes. Absolutely no issues.

    It would be a lot more useful than the model car I got with Project Cars 2 collectors edition, which just acts as an atmospheric dust filter in my gaff.
  • KnuttinAtoll 14 May 2020 20:46:57 8,269 posts
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    shadowgangs wrote:
    Godofporn wrote:
    The dev used us for attention. WHERE IS HE NOW
    I am here, but what do you want me to say...?

    One frame of Eddy cost me around 25£

    There is 8bits and 16bits games for Amiga, MSX etc... some digital download and they cost around 20£ to 25£
    That's such a strange argument.

    You should source your frames from a cheaper place then.

    In all seriousness though, it doesn't matter what it cost. What matters is what people are willing to pay, and what you're competing with.

    Your only hope is to sell a lot of copies at a very, very low price. Not the other way around.
  • shadowgangs 14 May 2020 20:47:25 249 posts
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    This is the best video review of Shadow Gangs.
    This guy understood the game.



    He says: "I recommend Shadow Gangs like I recommend water".
    He also says: "One of the best games of this start of this complicated 2020"
    And: "It should have the same resounding as SOR4"

    Sadly it is in Spanish only.
    Turn on the translation from Spanish to English
  • shadowgangs 14 May 2020 20:50:52 249 posts
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    neilka wrote:
    Where are they selling Amiga games for £25? Have you fallen through a time rift from 1990?
    The new homebrew games, they sell around these prices.
    Look at this one (18.95 euros):
    https://www.amigashop.org/product_info.php?products_id=273
  • Deleted user 14 May 2020 20:52:55
    I recommend Shadowgangs like i recommend Mustard around the anus
    EG community 2020
  • Carlo 14 May 2020 20:53:29 21,414 posts
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    shadowgangs wrote:
    This is the best video review of Shadow Gangs.
    This guy understood the game.
    "Understood it"? It's a shitty sidescrolling beat-em-up, that took longer to make than most consoles that featured games like this existed.

    I mean well done for making it, really, but this should have been finished in 6 months, and forgotten about in as many days.

    Sorry dude. Got to move on now.
  • LegendaryApe 14 May 2020 20:54:26 2,131 posts
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    TechnoHippy wrote:
    I suspect the only comment comes from here...
    Confirmed. Dear ol' AddyB. O and Jambo

    Edited by LegendaryApe at 20:55:42 14-05-2020
  • KnuttinAtoll 14 May 2020 20:55:31 8,269 posts
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    The problem with modern media is that you can see and hear for yourself how a game plays, looks and sounds.

    In ye olde days you'd have been able to shift more copies, when people based their decision on a print mag review or the screengrabs on the box.

    Plus, on Steam people can get a refund and your game can be sussed out well within the 2 hour limit. People might be less likely to do that with a much cheaper game.
  • Godofporn 14 May 2020 20:58:17 6,838 posts
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    shadowgangs wrote:
    This is the best video review of Shadow Gangs.
    This guy understood the game.



    He says: "I recommend Shadow Gangs like I recommend water".
    He also says: "One of the best games of this start of this complicated 2020"
    And: "It should have the same resounding as SOR4"

    Sadly it is in Spanish only.
    Turn on the translation from Spanish to English

    If your happy with that then so be it. But for me, he seems like he was paid or given a review copy for free. How can you take anyone serious when they say you need a game as much as water.

    Sorry but streets of rage 4 killed any hype for this game for me and many many many others.

    I like your dedication but your understanding of reality of what consumers want is lacking.
  • Lukus 14 May 2020 21:03:56 23,687 posts
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    Way to piss on someone's chips. Jeez.
  • shadowgangs 14 May 2020 21:09:35 249 posts
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    @Godofporn
    I gave him a review copy. (As i did with some other youtubers).

    I don't know him personally, but I liked his review very very much.
    (And lots of people really love the game, and are asking for a sequel).

    I would say, buy the game.
    Play in easy mode (Rising Ninja), try at least to beat the first boss. (It might take you 2 to 3 tries to beat him).
    Use the mines and kanji buttons with him.
    (Can be configured in the options menu).

    If you don't like the game, refund it.
  • Your-Mother 14 May 2020 21:16:22 4,970 posts
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    Or just donít buy it in the first place.
  • Your-Mother 14 May 2020 21:22:47 4,970 posts
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    https://steamdb.info/app/1143430/graphs/

    Look at that amazing player count. At one point it had four concurrent players. Iím sure 10,000 sales to break even are just days away.
  • Dirt3 14 May 2020 21:26:43 1,178 posts
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    I've been through this process myself on hardware. It's hard to understand if you haven't done it yourself how much of "yourself" goes into trying to put together a product.

    I admire Shadowgangs for beating all the doubters and finally delivering a product after so long.

    That said, commercial reality is commercial reality. The market is brutal and generally doesn't care about the sheer amount of time, effort and love you put into products.

    Good luck shadowgangs.
  • fontgeeksogood 14 May 2020 21:39:52 10,892 posts
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    Mr Gangs

    Seriously consider asking someone else to look at and take control of the marketing and pricing of your game. You are too close to it emotionally, and you seriously overpaid and over engineered it.

    It's a lovely thing to be rightly proud of getting this done, regardless of it being a clone of other games (it is), you poured your soul and time into it.

    You can't expect other people to feel the same way. Hence the only people playing this are those you gave press copies to, because £25 is just the worst pricing strategy since your failed Kickstarter
  • shadowgangs 14 May 2020 21:42:22 249 posts
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    Dirt3 wrote:
    I've been through this process myself on hardware. It's hard to understand if you haven't done it yourself how much of "yourself" goes into trying to put together a product.

    I admire Shadowgangs for beating all the doubters and finally delivering a product after so long.

    That said, commercial reality is commercial reality. The market is brutal and generally doesn't care about the sheer amount of time, effort and love you put into products.

    Good luck shadowgangs.
    Thank you.
    Good luck for your project/product too.
  • neilka 14 May 2020 21:42:36 23,592 posts
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    STOP BEING NICE TO SHADOWGANGS
  • fontgeeksogood 14 May 2020 21:46:38 10,892 posts
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    Shadowgangs Sausage Roll
  • shadowgangs 14 May 2020 21:52:43 249 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    Mr Gangs

    Seriously consider asking someone else to look at and take control of the marketing and pricing of your game. You are too close to it emotionally, and you seriously overpaid and over engineered it.

    It's a lovely thing to be rightly proud of getting this done, regardless of it being a clone of other games (it is), you poured your soul and time into it.

    You can't expect other people to feel the same way. Hence the only people playing this are those you gave press copies to, because £25 is just the worst pricing strategy since your failed Kickstarter
    I opened and closed my eyes on it.
    Then dreamt about it.
    :)

    It is selling, people buy the game daily, but it will sell more if I drop the price.
  • fontgeeksogood 14 May 2020 21:59:37 10,892 posts
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    What's more important to you - getting more people to play it, or breaking even?

    I imagine you've got fuck all chance of the second one if you insist on including your time as £
  • shadowgangs 14 May 2020 22:05:24 249 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    What's more important to you - getting more people to play it, or breaking even?

    I imagine you've got fuck all chance of the second one if you insist on including your time as £
    Things will get better for everyone.
  • fontgeeksogood 14 May 2020 22:06:20 10,892 posts
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    Guys maybe Shadowgangs cures Corona

    But gives you AIDs

    Edited by fontgeeksogood at 22:06:37 14-05-2020
  • Your-Mother 14 May 2020 22:07:48 4,970 posts
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    Eight pm clap every night for shadow gangs
  • Godofporn 14 May 2020 22:16:48 6,838 posts
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    Your-Mother wrote:
    Eight pm clap every night for shadow gangs
    Make it 10 past. Too busy clapping for the nhs.

    Edited by Godofporn at 22:17:03 14-05-2020
  • Load_2.0 14 May 2020 22:53:04 32,182 posts
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    This isn't a homage or a shinobi-lite. It's pure plagiarism.

    Even the cover art is a copied from a Street Fighter image.
  • TechnoHippy 15 May 2020 18:55:56 17,842 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    Guys maybe Shadowgangs cures Corona

    But gives you AIDs
    Good or bad AIDS?
  • fontgeeksogood 15 May 2020 19:00:31 10,892 posts
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    ShadowAIDS
  • richarddavies 15 May 2020 19:05:32 7,943 posts
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    Freddie Mercury kind of aids. That's why he's in it as a dedication.
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