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  • MatMan562 8 Oct 2015 19:30:11 3,467 posts
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    I figured we could use a thread like this to keep all talk of the movies in one place and for an obvious place to put news concerning multiple films.

    Ant-Man and the Wasp is coming July 2018!

    I'm glad we wont have to wait until 2020 to see the Wasp but it's dissapointing that Captain Marvel has been pushed back again (now releasing March 8th 2019). They've also moved Black Panther forward and announced the dates for their 2020 films.

    Phase 3 Schedule:

    2016:
    May 6th Captain America: Civil War
    October 28th - Doctor Strange

    2017:
    April 28th Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2
    July 27th Spiderman: Homecoming
    October 27th Thor: Ragnarok

    2018:
    February 16th Black Panther
    April 27th - Avengers: Infinity War - Part I
    July 6th Ant-Man and The Wasp

    2019:
    March 8th Captain Marvel
    April 26th - Avengers: Infinity War - Part II
    July 12th - Spider-Man 2 (Presumably)

    2020
    May 1st TBA
    July 10th - TBA
    November 6th TBA

    Edited by MatMan562 at 11:26:45 09-12-2017
  • drhickman1983 8 Oct 2015 19:56:27 6,027 posts
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    Think I'll probably drift away after the Infinity War. Maybe before. Hopefully part 2 will actually feel like a conclusion of sorts, and not feel like a stepping stone to introduce more characters, like Age of Ultron. Though I fully expect part 1 will probably be a stepping stone.

    It seems likely that the current Avengers are going to be retired, or at least be in diminished roles, and that the new characters are intended to replace them, but the new characters mostly don't interest me as much. I mean, I really liked the Ant Man film, but I find it hard to get excited about seeing another film starring him.

    I'm looking forward to Civil War, GotG 2, Ragnarok and the Infinity War films. I'll probably see the others, but I just can't look forward to them.
  • Godofporn 9 Oct 2015 00:37:24 6,740 posts
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    I personally think all there films are the samey
  • drhickman1983 9 Oct 2015 00:45:18 6,027 posts
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    I generally like the films but they do have a rough template it seems. The beats of the films are generally similar; they have same sort of tone. Even Guardians of the Galaxy, which was a superlative example of a Marvel film and something of an oddity, contained the same sort of wisecracks.

    Not really a bad thing if you like them, but I can understand why some people are sick of them.
  • Mola_Ram 9 Oct 2015 01:19:57 21,192 posts
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    Lol TBA.

    There are things coming out! We don't know what they are yet, but they're coming!
  • uberbeard 9 Oct 2015 01:26:40 1,489 posts
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    Odd that we haven't really seen much from Doctor Strange considering how much has been bumped out and hyped for the next Captain America film.
  • Baihu1983 15 Oct 2015 13:46:35 11,619 posts
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    Word is they struck a deal with Fox to get Fantastic Four back with a movie planned for 2020..
  • You-can-call-me-kal 15 Oct 2015 13:50:10 16,702 posts
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    Wow, Fox must have had to pay Marvel a fortune.
  • Baihu1983 15 Oct 2015 13:53:42 11,619 posts
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    It amazes me that Fox have a near perfect track record with X-Men but can't get one decent FF movie out.
  • DFawkes Friendliest Forumite, 2016 15 Oct 2015 13:55:14 32,235 posts
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    Perhaps they did some sort of arrangement when they agreed to co-produce those 2 new Fox/Marvel TV shows? Marvel helps fund those, and in return gets the Fantastic Four back. Probably not as I'd imagine they'd keep film and TV deals separate, but you never know.

    Info here on those 2 shows, should you have any interest.

    Edited by DFawkes at 13:56:40 15-10-2015
  • CosmicFuzz 15 Oct 2015 14:08:53 32,585 posts
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    Yeah, that's what I was thinking too. Makes sense I reckon to give them some more X-Men rights, which they've managed to not fuck up so far, whilst getting back Fantastic Four.

    I'd love to see what Marvel Studios could do with FF. Something bright and colourful and fun would tick all the boxes for me. Basically anything other than that godawful last one.
  • richarddavies 15 Oct 2015 14:22:01 6,810 posts
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    I can see why as he's getting on now but I think it's a shame Hugh Jackman's bowing out of the Wolverine role. I would've liked to of seen him more on the marvel side, possibly in the Avengers one day.

    Edited by richarddavies at 14:38:29 15-10-2015
  • BOFH_UK 15 Oct 2015 14:31:17 231 posts
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    With regards the X-men TV show, from what I've seen the X-men rights Fox had were just for movies so some sort of behind the scenes deal has clearly been made. Considering how long Marvel have had those rights it doesn't seem too big a jump to think something big had to go in the other direction for this to happen.

    FF would make a lot of sense as it brings a lot of big bads back into the MCU which they're going to need once Infinity War and Thanos are done. Long since given up on keeping track of which characters live at which studios but at a minimum Doctor Doom and Galactus would be in play and the Skrulls if they wanted to use them. Plus let's face it FF is better suited to Marvel's style of film making anyway, needs a light touch and genuine humour to work properly which Fox... let's be generous and say they seem to struggle with that. On top of that X-men has enough material to easily sustain a movie universe so Fox would still have their movie universe.
  • nickthegun 15 Oct 2015 16:54:13 78,493 posts
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    I think we have now reached the point in human civilisation where we can definitively say that nobody gives a fuck about the fantastic four.

    'But what about guardians of the galaxy? No one knew anything about them before the film came out'

    And that's why it did so well.

    Edited by nickthegun at 16:55:06 15-10-2015
  • drhickman1983 15 Oct 2015 17:01:13 6,027 posts
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    I've never really been a fan of the Fantastic Four, but Dr Doom could be a great Marvel movie villain.

    Mind, I thought that about Ultron, and look how that turned out. And he's still the 2nd best Marvel film villain.

    I can see the FF fitting into the MCU quite well though.
  • disusedgenius 15 Oct 2015 17:10:21 10,031 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    I think we have now reached the point in human civilisation where we can definitively say that nobody gives a fuck about the fantastic four.
    LIES! I love Doctor Doom...
  • nickthegun 15 Oct 2015 17:32:07 78,493 posts
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    He could be pretty easily untangled from them and given his own origin.

    Fuck, you could really contemporise it and have him as the despot leader of an oil nation everyone is scared to touch.
  • disusedgenius 15 Oct 2015 17:35:35 10,031 posts
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    Oh, for sure. It was a more a comment that everyone who seems to like FF seems to only care for the villain.


    Seriously though, just make a Doom film...
  • drhickman1983 15 Oct 2015 17:38:51 6,027 posts
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    It's not a bad idea, but If they tried to make him more contemporary they'd need to be careful to not lose what makes him such a good villain.

    There's a danger he might end up being another middle-aged white male antagonist whose a little bit sciency. Because that's what the MCU has really lacked.
  • Saul_Iscariot 15 Oct 2015 17:44:22 3,161 posts
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    I'd rather see the FF fuck Doom off for a while and explore the more wierd universe they inhabit. The negative zone and the stories in space could make for an interesting contrast, in the same way GotG and Thor do, to the other films.

    And whilst I enjoy the X-Men films, both Wolverine films are pretty poor. They ignore their own established rules and the characters are often so different to there comic book counter parts that they become unrecognisable. The X-Men films do this to a lesser extent, especially with Logan, Scott and Jean, but they get more right.
  • drhickman1983 15 Oct 2015 17:46:43 6,027 posts
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    Origins was crap, but I really loved The Wolverine, never understood why people were so down on it.

    Likewise I can't understand the love for First Class.

    I do like the sound of a non-Earth based Fantastic Four film though, would allow it to stand out.

    Edited by drhickman1983 at 17:48:27 15-10-2015
  • Saul_Iscariot 15 Oct 2015 17:59:31 3,161 posts
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    My problem with The Wolverine is the characters, Jean Grey isn't supposed to be the love of Logan's life. The Silver Samurai was pretty poor and under utilised. I think selling it as based on the Frank Miller comic book was the problem, as it really wasn't anything like it. If they'd just said this is our take on Wolverine I'd have been happier.

    I actually thought the recent FF film was going to blow my mind when they mentioned something about the planet they travelled to reacting like a living thing. My instant thought was Ego. I'd have been stoked if that was the set up for what came next rather than a substandard Doom.

    Edited by Saul_Iscariot at 18:02:23 15-10-2015
  • Deleted user 15 October 2015 19:09:03
    Fox need to give marvel Dr doom back, let them give him the thanks treatment (maybe have shield make a trio to Latvia) build him up to be the threat he deserves. Fuck the fantastic four and their constant use of him as their origin baddy with 5 minutes of air time
  • Derblington 15 Oct 2015 19:18:39 31,872 posts
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    So, Thor: Ragnarok is going to be Thor and Hulk on a galactic adventure where they meet Valkyrie, if the recent rumours are true.
  • drhickman1983 15 Oct 2015 19:22:44 6,027 posts
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    Saul_Iscariot wrote:
    My problem with The Wolverine is the characters, Jean Grey isn't supposed to be the love of Logan's life. The Silver Samurai was pretty poor and under utilised. I think selling it as based on the Frank Miller comic book was the problem, as it really wasn't anything like it. If they'd just said this is our take on Wolverine I'd have been happier.

    I actually thought the recent FF film was going to blow my mind when they mentioned something about the planet they travelled to reacting like a living thing. My instant thought was Ego. I'd have been stoked if that was the set up for what came next rather than a substandard Doom.
    They did oversell the Miller comic connection. I didn't really have any qualms with Logan's love of Jean Grey, I kinda think it makes sense with that cinematic depiction of Wolverine, but I can accept the criticism.

    Ego would be an amazing character. Would be totally unique and different.

    If Marvel can get the rights to FF, it might also open up the rights celestials (afaik the rights are tied up with the FF film rights, read that James Gunn said he wouldn't be allowed to use them on screen) which could potentially be cool.
  • Derblington 15 Oct 2015 19:31:17 31,872 posts
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    Marvel and Fox have both publicly denied the FF thing.
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