Following Marvel Cinematic Universe Page 98

  • Wayne 5 Apr 2021 11:03:01 3,156 posts
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    Ant-Man and The Dangers Of Co-Ownership
  • IMO 5 Apr 2021 11:18:52 7,587 posts
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    I'd watch all these films.
  • RGeefe 5 Apr 2021 13:39:51 1,864 posts
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    Pepper Pots becomes CEO of Stark Industries but Happy Hogan mansplains board meetings to her
  • Darth_Flibble 5 Apr 2021 14:05:38 5,101 posts
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    Supervillain makes armoured PJs from technogel but you have to watch 7 episodes of business meetings and planning
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 5 Apr 2021 14:31:14 17,132 posts
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    Actual admin in the new Loki trailer


    https://youtu.be/nW948Va-l10


    Its happening
  • beastmaster 5 Apr 2021 14:33:35 22,052 posts
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    That looks ace! Way more fun than Wanda or Falcon.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 5 Apr 2021 15:01:51 17,132 posts
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    Looks properly cinematic
  • Your-Mother 5 Apr 2021 15:11:21 7,277 posts
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    wow
  • Not-a-reviewer 5 Apr 2021 15:43:16 7,268 posts
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    Wayne wrote:
    Not-a-reviewer was definitely being sarcastic, but also completely missed the point. No one was saying itís unrealistic for a bad guy to be rich. The criticism was how they retconned the character. But itís actually not that particularly interesting, itís just lazy writing, so I think Iíll leave it at that.
    You seem to have missed the point that they didnít retcon the character.
  • Wayne 5 Apr 2021 15:47:39 3,156 posts
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    @Not-a-reviewer

    ď (in a film, television series, or other fictional work) a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency.Ē

    That seems to be exactly what theyíve done.
  • Not-a-reviewer 5 Apr 2021 15:49:32 7,268 posts
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    I saw no dramatic plots in Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
  • nickthegun 5 Apr 2021 15:53:08 86,026 posts
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    They didnít change previously described events as nobody commented on his bank account in civil war. There was barely any characterisation to change.
  • JamboWayOh 5 Apr 2021 15:58:53 23,585 posts
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    I see user Wayne has taken Derbs' mantle.
  • johnnyrocketfingers 5 Apr 2021 16:01:38 370 posts
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    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    Isnít he Baron Zemo?

    I kind of assume an aristocrat has means
    Yes, he is a literal Baron.
  • Derblington 5 Apr 2021 17:25:36 34,780 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    I see user Wayne has taken Derbs' mantle.
    Thereís a fundamental difference in that Wayneís wrong :)
  • TechnoHippy 5 Apr 2021 18:02:23 18,913 posts
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    That Loki trailer looks like fun.
  • JamboWayOh 5 Apr 2021 18:10:41 23,585 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    JamboWayOh wrote:
    I see user Wayne has taken Derbs' mantle.
    Thereís a fundamental difference in that Wayneís wrong :)
    Glol.
  • Your-Mother 5 Apr 2021 18:39:53 7,277 posts
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    Where did Baron Greenback get his money from in Danger Mouse
  • challenge_hanukkah 5 Apr 2021 18:48:59 14,085 posts
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    Didn't he found PayPal?
  • JamboWayOh 5 Apr 2021 19:03:01 23,585 posts
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    That was Barron Trump.
  • brokenkey 5 Apr 2021 19:50:15 10,895 posts
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    TechnoHippy wrote:
    That Loki trailer looks like fun.
    Mobius confirmed (by the subtitler).

    Edited by brokenkey at 19:54:57 05-04-2021
  • Your-Mother 5 Apr 2021 19:56:21 7,277 posts
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    I thought that was confirmed a few months ago.
  • Load_2.0 5 Apr 2021 20:00:13 32,920 posts
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    And Venom according to Twitter.
  • davidfowles 6 Apr 2021 02:07:14 419 posts
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    Civil Warís novel characterisation of Zemo as just this ordinary guy, with no powers or special resources, just a grudge and some information, was able to drive a wedge into The Avengers, has been thrown away by this because heís Baron Zemo in the comics and I guess we have to use that. Look here, heís put his mask on for all of thirty seconds for no reason, because he wears one in the comics.

    His having private jets and fancy coat collars is not the character we saw in Civil War, and Iím calling
    It a retcon.

    Itís also just completely daft that Bucky would break him out and that the pair of they would actually be fine with working with him, itís fucking ridiculous in fact. He blew up the United Nations and personally murdered at least six people in that film.
  • DasBooter 6 Apr 2021 07:34:07 530 posts
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    davidfowles wrote:
    Itís also just completely daft that Bucky would break him out and that the pair of they would actually be fine with working with him, itís fucking ridiculous in fact. He blew up the United Nations and personally murdered at least six people in that film.
    But he's the only one who knows how to speak pirate and how to find their secret giant neon pirate city.
  • Saul_Iscariot 6 Apr 2021 08:25:19 4,289 posts
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    If it is a retconned, and I am prepared to concede this point, then it is surprising that a man with a grudge was able to garner so much information that he was able to infiltrate Hrydraís secrets. Shield couldnít do that. But he was able to find so much information that he could set Bucky up as a patsy in Civil War, find the hidden handler of the Winter Soldier and find the revived program to create more super soldiers.

    To me that takes resources, more than you mate Billy the brick layer giving you a tip on the Grand National. The subtleties where always there. Remember at the beginning of Age of Ultron, the Avengers were actively seeking out Hydraís operations with the view to shutting them down. But they were blindsided by the revived super soldier program.

    I simply do not buy the idea the Zemo was just a special ops, intelligence officer that was able to get ahead of an internal intelligence agency and the Avengers.
  • IMO 6 Apr 2021 08:26:23 7,587 posts
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    They should have had him applying for a mortgage on a castle. Would have cleared all this up.
  • davidfowles 6 Apr 2021 08:31:48 419 posts
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    @Saul_Iscariot the avengers werenít willing to hang a guy upside down and drown him in a sink to get information.
  • captbirdseye 6 Apr 2021 08:34:38 10,702 posts
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    Bet he has a better boat than Falcon.
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