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  • Derblington 22 Mar 2016 15:01:16 34,881 posts
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    The tv shows are a separate entity. Nothing that occurs in them has any bearing on the films.

    If they do cross them over at some point, the films will gloss over or ignore everything that's come before and use a set-up that makes sense for the theatrical audience primarily.
  • spamdangled 22 Mar 2016 15:03:30 31,803 posts
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    @Derblington Almost correct:

    http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2016/02/24/comic-book-questions-answered-is-captain-americas-shield-stronger-than-adamantium/

    Adamantium was created (decades later) to try to create something as strong as Cap's shield. Cap's shield is just describes as a vibranium-steel alloy that's stronger than Adamantium and even Enchanted URU can't damage it.

    The shield is the strongest material in the MU (even though it has actually been broken a number of times, because Comics).

    Edited by spamdangled at 15:04:34 22-03-2016
  • Derblington 22 Mar 2016 15:13:41 34,881 posts
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    Almost correct on what?

    Proto-Adamantium is Vibranium, steel and an unknown catalyst, yes.
  • richarddavies 22 Mar 2016 15:18:43 8,216 posts
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    I thought his post was obvious Derbs. Captains shield is a Vibranium alloy that's stronger than Adamantium. Vis a vis, the tv series and the movies are connected. :confused:
  • twelveways 22 Mar 2016 15:18:50 7,131 posts
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    It was uranium originally iirc

    edit: The unknown catalyst

    Edited by twelveways at 15:19:26 22-03-2016
  • spamdangled 22 Mar 2016 15:19:44 31,803 posts
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    @Derblington Oops

    Sorry, I got secondary adamntium and proto mixed up.

    Proto adamantium doesn't have vibranium in it, however. The shield is an alloy of vibranium and the unknown steel compound (later referred to as proto adamantium, but it's actually completely different from adamantium - it's only called that because of the historical link with both having the same creator).

    His shield is now made of Vibranium and Uru though IIRC; after Fear Itself, it was reforged in Asgard (by Tony Stark and a bunch of dwarves)

    There are some people who the shield can't defend against, though. Because most of its protective power actually comes from the vibranium absorbing the impact, certain things like Iron Fist's punch will bypass the shield as they're not fuelled by kinetic energy. The Odinpower can also destroy it, and has done so. And I think Thanos has destroyed it with the help of the Infinity Gauntlet.

    Edited by spamdangled at 15:33:26 22-03-2016
  • Derblington 22 Mar 2016 15:24:00 34,881 posts
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    I know it got smashed in Fear Itself but can't remember enough of the story or aftermath to recall what happened in the reforging.
  • twelveways 22 Mar 2016 15:26:09 7,131 posts
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    How does it bounce if the vibranium absorbs the impact?
  • spamdangled 22 Mar 2016 15:30:46 31,803 posts
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    The vibranium is mostly in the centre, and not around the rim. This allows it to bounce on its edge, while absorbing impact if hit full-on.

    Also, from Marvel's wiki:

    Rogers' indestructible shield has often been referred to as being an adamantium-vibranium alloy. This is a result of an erroneous entry in the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe entry on Captain America (though it was accurately described in the adamantium entry), which propagated into future stories. The error was corrected in Captain America 303 (March 1985), which established that the shield is made of vibranium and steel.
  • CosmicFuzz 22 Mar 2016 16:15:28 32,604 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    The tv shows are a separate entity. Nothing that occurs in them has any bearing on the films.

    If they do cross them over at some point, the films will gloss over or ignore everything that's come before and use a set-up that makes sense for the theatrical audience primarily.
    Not really. The films tend to pretty much ignore the TV show, but the TV show is influenced by the films to a certain degree. I don't think for a moment that the films will ignore the fact that the Inhumans have been prancing around the MCU via the TV show, however. Rather I'd imagine the film side have told the TV side what they're planning on doing with the Inhumans so they don't clash.

    I'd be pretty surprised if the TV side had just went "fuck you, we're doing our own version of the Inhumans." I'm guessing that we'll start to see mention of them in the film side so by the time the film comes along, they're common knowledge.

    Edited by CosmicFuzz at 16:16:09 22-03-2016
  • PierrePressure 22 Mar 2016 16:45:57 1,404 posts
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    I suspect they won't use any of what has been going on in Agents of Shield.
    None of the films have mentioned that Coulson is alive and well, have they?
  • Derblington 22 Mar 2016 16:48:49 34,881 posts
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    No, because as far as the films are concerned he's dead.
  • Derblington 22 Mar 2016 16:51:44 34,881 posts
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    CosmicFuzz wrote:
    Derblington wrote:
    The tv shows are a separate entity. Nothing that occurs in them has any bearing on the films.

    If they do cross them over at some point, the films will gloss over or ignore everything that's come before and use a set-up that makes sense for the theatrical audience primarily.
    Not really. The films tend to pretty much ignore the TV show, but the TV show is influenced by the films to a certain degree. I don't think for a moment that the films will ignore the fact that the Inhumans have been prancing around the MCU via the TV show, however. Rather I'd imagine the film side have told the TV side what they're planning on doing with the Inhumans so they don't clash.

    I'd be pretty surprised if the TV side had just went "fuck you, we're doing our own version of the Inhumans." I'm guessing that we'll start to see mention of them in the film side so by the time the film comes along, they're common knowledge.
    The tv shows are influenced by the films, yes. That lends the shows a bigger importance but it's an illusion as nothing ever does or will feed back. It can't.

    I imagine that the tv writers hase a vague understanding of what teh movies want to do with certain characters/groups and are under instruction to not touch any of it. If the films decide to do anything different, they'll just ignore anything the show has done because it's insignificant in terms of the theatrical plotlines.
  • Deleted user 22 March 2016 17:14:54
    There's some seriously impressive geekery going on in here.
  • Deleted user 22 March 2016 17:17:25
    Heh, was just thinking the same thing. I wish I could be that passionate about something... Preferably something more important than what imaginary metals an imaginary character's shield is made of
  • Deleted user 22 March 2016 17:32:21
    Talk more about the unobtanium, I'm closing in on the Billy Mill roundabout
  • Deleted user 22 March 2016 17:37:27
    I always thought Adamantium was a fancy dress store that specialised in Prince Charming outfits.

    Taxi!
  • nickthegun 22 Mar 2016 17:50:53 86,445 posts
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    This is about the time someone changes a Wikipedia article to get someone to write 'actually, I think you'll find its mingeantium'.
  • MatMan562 22 Mar 2016 18:12:39 3,470 posts
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    CosmicFuzz wrote:
    I am curious as to how the MCU are going to incorporate Inhumans in their eventual film when they'll have been running around the TV world for years before hand. In Agents of SHIELD, the whole world knows about Inhumans - so they'll need to introduce that at some point in the films before their eventual movie.
    I think the film will primarily be about the Inhuman Royal Family (at least, I think that's what they're called, the group with Black Bolt in) whereas Agents of SHIELD is doing all the rest.

    And the two are connected, I wouldn't be surprised if we get some line in Civil War about the inhumans of the show. It would definitely help the pro-registration side's argument.
  • spamdangled 22 Mar 2016 18:39:32 31,803 posts
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    I don't know, I'm not really sure what they could do with Black Bolt. A completely mute dude who isn't allowed to use his power because it could destroy the planet if he utters a single word? And a woman with sentient hair?

    Mind you, people didn't think GOTG could work either as a film.
  • Jeepers 22 Mar 2016 19:02:45 16,612 posts
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    Derp and Mongo: Do you ever re-read these posts and have a quiet little cry?
  • Derblington 22 Mar 2016 19:54:08 34,881 posts
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    Because we happen to know some useless facts about some fictional people and their stuff? No.
  • Jeepers 22 Mar 2016 20:12:02 16,612 posts
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    Oh.

    You maybe should?
  • Derblington 22 Mar 2016 20:30:02 34,881 posts
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    Yeah, ok, because a gaming website is the place to be to talk about the really cool shit.
  • Jeepers 22 Mar 2016 20:31:27 16,612 posts
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    Yes
  • Deleted user 22 March 2016 20:33:09
    I need to start a thread about how I imagine Rebecca Chamber's panties smell... This is gaming forum, so it should be OK, right?...


    They probably smell of poopy skidmarks and lady stink. Well they would if she was an actual person.
  • Deleted user 22 March 2016 21:08:13
    Italics
  • neilka 22 Mar 2016 21:15:31 23,913 posts
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  • Deleted user 22 March 2016 21:18:43
    Actually we call them full stops here. As in, Neilka couldn't have sex tonight because Mrska got her full stop, full stop
  • Lukus 22 Mar 2016 21:21:46 24,391 posts
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    Derblington wrote:
    Yeah, ok, because a gaming website is the place to be to talk about the really cool shit.
    Do you kiss your lego mother with that mouth?
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