Warhammer: End Times - Vermintide • Gaming • Eurogamer.net

Rivuzu 19 Oct 2015 10:55:36 18,424 posts
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No thread up for this yet, so figured I'd see if there is any more interest.

http://www.vermintide.com/

Really fun almost Left 4 Dead clone, with 5 different classes and a progressive loot system. Played a few hours of it last night, and it was a blast trying to repel the Skaven hordes with our motley crew of Warhammer heroes.

Releases this Friday, but you can buy it on Steam now for 10% off and immediate access to the Beta.

Anyone else playing this?

neems 19 Oct 2015 10:59:02 5,635 posts
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Yeah I've had it a few days, really enjoying it. I'm trying to not play it too much while the map choice is so limited, I don't want to get burnt out before the full game launches.

Rivuzu 19 Oct 2015 11:01:03 18,424 posts
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On release it's going to have 13 maps, as far as I'm aware.

I am having a few odd graphical woes with it though that I hope to get resolved tonight - though knowing my luck, it'll be an AMD issue and a hopeless cause.

neems 19 Oct 2015 11:08:31 5,635 posts
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That's the main reason I gave up on AMD cards. Theoretical price / performance ratio is great, but there are way too many games that have issues.

Rivuzu 19 Oct 2015 11:12:13 18,424 posts
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Well hopefully it's not a lost cause.

On the other hand, the game itself in terms of content has been great. It's got that proper L4D feel of the AI can throw anything at you at any point. Having a Rat Ogre appear less than 30 seconds into a Horn of Magnus (Normal) run (being the equivalent of a Tank in L4D) and watching as our group of fairly new players all chickenhead around and scatter to avoid it was hilarious fun. Packleaders are frustrating as all hell though!

neems 19 Oct 2015 11:29:53 5,635 posts
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I had my first all tomes and grimoires run last night, I hadn't realised that carrying tomes lowers the team's health, we had about 4 squares of health each at the final stand-off.

Got some lovely pistols out of it.

Rivuzu 19 Oct 2015 11:38:36 18,424 posts
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I thought only the Grimoires dropped your HP?

I'm still rather fresh to this, but it's good fun with JOLLY CO-OPERATION.

neems 19 Oct 2015 12:34:36 5,635 posts
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I imagine you're right Rivuzu, I just run around and hit things. I know we were all carrying stuff, and we had bugger all health bar.

TPReview 19 Oct 2015 12:54:38 1,380 posts
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Can you drop the grimoire's during a fight to get your health back? Like in the tower in Horn of Magnus Magnusson?

neems 19 Oct 2015 13:03:34 5,635 posts
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You can certainly put stuff down to heal, I don't know if you could leave it for the duration of the fight and then pick it up again at the end, would be a bit of an exploit I guess.

Frogofdoom 23 Oct 2015 08:33:27 17,973 posts
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Surprising how little hype this is getting, it's only �14 on CD keys as well. No reviews yet either so I'm guessing it's embargoed.

magicpanda 23 Oct 2015 08:38:26 15,130 posts
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How long is a level/game?

TPReview 23 Oct 2015 08:47:40 1,380 posts
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There's no embargo but even for review keys the whole game only just unlocked today so I think (hope) people want to play the other 10 levels before they review it. Up until now we've only had 3 levels.

Each level takes about 15-30 minutes (possibly more on harder difficulties, I haven't tried them yet, normal seems to be hard enough right now and there's three levels above that) and there's 13 levels. There's also 5 classes with fairly different gameplay for each. The game is a tiny bit diablo esque in that you do the runs to get loot, which then lets you do the same missions on harder difficulties or with new challenges (like gathering all the tomes/grimoires). Unlike Diablo you only get one piece of loot per run, it's all about maximising your chance of getting the best piece of loot possible by collecting hidden items along the way. I've put 4 or 5 hours into it so far and I feel like I'm just scratching the surface (and have only played as three of the five characters)

Sharz 23 Oct 2015 08:49:56 2,121 posts
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Really like the look of this,� but A have to many games and B no friends want to buy it.

If any bright sparks have suggestions for A&B I will happily buy it.� Currently �13 at CDKeys.

TPReview 23 Oct 2015 08:57:18 1,380 posts
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For A I'd say this is quite a nice thing to drop into for 15 minutes in between other games or while you're waiting for something to install/someone to come online, and for B I'm 'TPSou' on Steam - add me and you can join our group when we're on. Will be quite a lot over the next week or so.

Gl3n Moderator 23 Oct 2015 09:08:13 6,901 posts
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Quite tempted by this, and it sneaks in before any of the major releases in a few weeks time.

Rivuzu 23 Oct 2015 09:20:04 18,424 posts
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It is rather very good. Sorted out my graphics issue as well, turns out the drivers I was using were two years out of date. Woops.

Enjoying it though. More so than I was L4D.

Sharz 23 Oct 2015 09:30:31 2,121 posts
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Better that L4D?� Wow that's a big claim.

Rivuzu 23 Oct 2015 09:36:05 18,424 posts
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Didn't say it was better, just that I'm enjoying it more. For a robot, you suck some times at reading English.

But the different "class" system and Diablo lite addition for loot/equipment does give it a bit of a deeper feel, even if the enemies are direct rips of L4D ones.

Sharz 23 Oct 2015 09:39:40 2,121 posts
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Sorry I linked more enjoyment with being better as that is the main goal of any game.� They are very subjective terms after all.

Either way you like it and that's positive

Rivuzu 23 Oct 2015 09:43:20 18,424 posts
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Yupyupyup. The Bright Wizard is the only one of the "class"'s that really acts differently though. Their ranged weapon works on an Overheating system, but different weapons have different special attacks - such as a single target shot, or a huge AOE blast, etc.

Rivuzu 23 Oct 2015 09:49:06 18,424 posts
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To give a quick rundown on the five classes;

The Witch Hunter is more mid-range, using a Rapier with pistol offhand, and dual wielding pistols as his ranged option. Can also use a Zweihander.
The Waywatcher is your typical elven bullshit archer, 70 arrows, can be fired like a damn machinegun with quick taps, longest range, flimsy daggers.
The Bright Wizard doesn't do much with melee, but gets different staves that have different rates of fire and alternate fire modes.
The dwarf and soldier are very similar, with the dwarf more being about pure damage and the soldier being your HOLD THE LINE guy. Both can equip a shield though.

TPReview 23 Oct 2015 09:55:30 1,380 posts
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I'd like to add that some of the loot really does a change a class. In my first ever drop I got a blue sword for the wizard that is constantly on fire and does a lot of damage because it sets everything on fire. This means I don't really use my staff ( don't have a good one yet) but I do a lot of melee.

Similarly I got an awesome gun for my dwarf that can OHK most enemies if I get a headshot from ridiculous ranges, that means I end up playing him as a sniper half the time, picking off the special Skaven before they get close.

I've found the classes play pretty differently once you get some good weapons.

Also the dwarf is short and that entertains me.

Rivuzu 23 Oct 2015 09:58:05 18,424 posts
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I'm still yet to get a Trueshot bow, though once I do it'll be easystreet for sure.

Edit: Or is it Trueflight? I can't remember which, the auto-headshot one

Edited by Rivuzu at 09:58:25 23-10-2015

LittleSparra 23 Oct 2015 10:23:42 7,926 posts
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Sounds... interesting.

TOO MANY GAMES

magicpanda 23 Oct 2015 10:33:56 15,130 posts
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Short games
�13
Warhammer/Left4Dead
Lootgrind

Sold.

neems 23 Oct 2015 10:48:55 5,635 posts
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It's auto headshot? I didn't realise that, I have one. You do get considerably less ammo though - 30 instead of 70.

I like it when you get a horde when you're next to an ammo supply and can just spam hundreds of arrows.

Dizzy 23 Oct 2015 11:16:39 3,716 posts
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Bought it... looks ace.