Dougs wrote:My bad, I meant to put in draft bill but missed the draft (as it were). .gif) Even so, people need to know about this. |
Snooper's Charter - it's been passed
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RobAnybody 2,892 posts
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Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoSome of the comparisons to the old ways seem weird. People on the radio comparing it to when the authorities could intercept your mail when needed doesn't really match - that would be more like someone photocopying all your post and putting in a box but not looking at it too closely. -
senso-ji 10,271 posts
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Registered 13 years agoEvery website you visited in the last 12 months will be logged by your ISP by law
This annoucement comes alongside Jeremy Cunt's decision to change Doctor's pay after keeping quiet over it for so long. Why were the Tories voted in again? -
RobAnybody 2,892 posts
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Registered 10 years agoThe draft bill will be published at 12:30 today - here's a live Guardian blog:
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/blog/live/2015/nov/04/surveillance-internet-snoopers-charter-may-plans-politics-live -
Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agosenso-ji wrote:
Labour aren't opposed to the bill.
Every website you visited in the last 12 months will be logged by your ISP by law
This annoucement comes alongside Jeremy Cunt's decision to change Doctor's pay after keeping quiet over it for so long. Why were the Tories voted in again? -
RobAnybody 2,892 posts
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Registered 10 years agoTaken from the Guardian's live blog:
Back in the Commons May says the provisions about accessing internet browsing history are just the modern equivalent of allowing the authorities to see an itemised phone bill.
That's such bullshit from May and smacks of a complete lack of understanding of the Internet. A phone bill just shows that you've phoned a particular number and those seeing the phone number on the list would have no idea of the contents of the call. This is unlike a with a web site where you KNOW what the contents are. -
RobAnybody 2,892 posts
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Registered 10 years agoThe draft bill has now been published and can be found here:
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President_Weasel 12,355 posts
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Registered 17 years agoFuck's sake. Our internet histories will inevitably leak, and everyone will know I have odd taste in porn (and that I watch a considerable amount of porn). I do not imagine this will stop terrorism in any way. -
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mothercruncher 19,474 posts
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Registered 15 years agoDitto. My highly specialised wanking tastes are nobody else's business. Girl's World dolls are in short enough supply as it is.
Now the time to invest in a bit of VPN cloak and dagger-ness, oh technical people?
Or will the Po Po just consider that a red flag and bypass them in a jiffy anyway? -
RobAnybody 2,892 posts
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Registered 10 years agoI'm not so sure that VPNs will be viable either - from doing a bit of reading it looks like any VPN providers who are supplying a service to the UK will be subject to the law as it then stands (that applies to providers not based in the UK), so the government can insist that they keep logs, etc. Those VPN providers who don't comply will simply be blocked by UK ISPs.
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Jim, for fuck's sake stop reading those ISIS related emails and come look at this nerd's grumble collection and Amiibo slashfic -
jonsaan 27,052 posts
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Registered 15 years agoI'm up for more Snoopy. I always loved peanuts. -
mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI can see the uptake of VPNs only increasing, so long as there's an out in the world where this shit doesn't happen.
But at least they'll only know the sites you visit, so as long as you avoid nuggetporntube-dot-com you'll be okay.
I'm interested in this stuff about them being able to compel manufacturers to work with them to hack their devices. These are american and chinese companies in the main - how will that work? -
Want to sell your electronics and services in the UK? Then abide by these regulations.
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Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoNot read the detail, but Guardian suggests only UK VPNs will be forced to keep logs. -
mothercruncher 19,474 posts
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Registered 15 years agoIt is extremely creepy and incredibly invasive the more I read.
The only silver lining personally is that, if they want to download the contents of my phone at any point, it'll take them approximately eight hours given my atrocious upload speed. -
Imagine the poor bugger sifting through the street food pics to find, y'know, what he was anonymously tipped off about -
rudedudejude 2,374 posts
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Registered 16 years agoIt's all lovely in theory, but even the sniff of a hack on a system like this could bring it to an end. -
mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agoCertainly will be interesting reading for Talktalk customers, I guess. -
after8ters 96 posts
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Registered 6 years agoThis is not the same as intercepting mail as in the early days or tapping somones phone as In the 60s, this is more like following someone around and watching them 24/7
Your commercial, social, political, sexual desires, views and opinons, remarks recreation habits will all be available for any plod or hacker to view.
I'd say a big part of this is to stop piracy, its always about money, and those blaming the tories, cunt mandleson from Labour started the ball rolling on this. -
alt-cmd-esc 713 posts
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Registered 7 years agoJust out of interest, how many posters on this thread use Facebook, Twitter, Gmail etc.? Because, if you do, you are already giving people access to your data, willingly. If more people stopped using f'ing social media we would have a much stronger argument against this kind of data gathering.
I'd also highly recommend installing Ghostery when using Eurogamer and most other websites - install the plugin and see just how many trackers it blocks for you (7 on this page, most of which would then send your data onto other trackers etc.)
/crawls back into tinfoil tent
Oh, and don't use Windows 10 either:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/ -
@senso-ji because ed milliband couldn't eat a bacon sandwich -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoLet's not kid ourselves that Labour would do any different. Andy Burnham was right behind this -
I take it you don't use clubcards or shop online then? -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years ago..or use a mobile, or drive a car with a number plate, or even just own a car and don't drive it, or travel abroad, or exist on the election register, or walk past a CCTV camera, or have a bank account, or have electricity or water or pay council tax or any number of things.
Unless you live in a tent on a roundabout and hunt your own food, shut up and get a bank card. I know it's scary but if you get a grown-up to show you it's quite easy once you're used to it.
I don't see how the VPN blocking can work. All you need is the IP address of a VPN server. VPN providers just hire hosting/rackspace somewhere and install their software on. It can be anywhere in the world and change regularly. Even if they try and block the hostname, just use a non-UK DNS. There is always going to be a work-around. If you have something to hide, you're always going to be able to. It's only those that have nothing to hide who have their privacy invaded.
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@Acidizer Using a debit card makes you a hipster these days? Are they artisan debit cards, hewn from the natural plastics of the Outer Hebrides?
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