| I held the door open for her a few years back not knowing who she was and I'm a polite fella. Didn't say thanks. So this snoopers thing is nothing compared to cuntery she's capable of. |
Snooper's Charter - it's been passed
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rockavitch 1,303 posts
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Shivoa 6,314 posts
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Registered 20 years agoDuffking wrote:
I mean, of course they have to lie in court. You can't let the "enemy" (see anyone the Gov may want to accuse in open court) know your tactical capabilities. So clearly you need to lie about how you knew something or why your "random" searches look a lot like ideological purges by the secret police.
Have we done the act essentially allowing the Government to lie in court?
What poison tree? Suppression of political opponents by a paranoid state? Who said fascism?
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Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Shivoa 6,314 posts
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Registered 20 years agoI do love the detail that it may be illegal to make a defence that the state is lying (aka telling the truth). Really gives this the full colour of a fascists dictatorship that has destroyed the courts and so the rule of law.
Anyway, a reminder to any citizens that if you are ever in a jury for a criminal case you must acquit. The state no longer offers a credible position from which you can make a conviction. Any convictions after this date that do not include a defence that the evidence of the state is false is a failure of justice and the convicted is a political prisoner. -
Psychotext 70,652 posts
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Registered 15 years agoSo... I mean we assume that we can trust the police with this information right? No?
Hundreds of corrupt cops who used police databases to identify vulnerable people for "sexual gain" were caught only after the abuse of power was reported by alleged victims, a watchdog has warned.
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Load_2.0 33,582 posts
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Registered 18 years agoSome good news, at least temporarily.
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sport 17,064 posts
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Registered 17 years agoSNOOPING means SNOOPING! -
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Registered 6 years agoWe want the freedom to be unfree! -
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Registered 20 years agoMay will push it through if she is PM when we leave. Total cunt of a person. -
RichDC 9,177 posts
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Registered 17 years agoDoesn't help that David Davis who helped get it this far has decided he's no longer interested in privacy as May gave him a job. -
DFawkes 32,785 posts
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Registered 16 years agoNo longer interested? But he's the one who took it to EU court to try and block it, so surely he is interested in privacy? -
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CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThere is an irony to David Davis going to the EU for help whilst also simultaneously planning how best to leave them. -
"oh, hi Dave squared, you need our help? Sure, give me the details and I'll type it up on my invisible typewriter" -
CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years agoYeah exactly 
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RichDC 9,177 posts
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Registered 17 years agoDFawkes wrote:
From the Guardian:
No longer interested? But he's the one who took it to EU court to try and block it, so surely he is interested in privacy?
Before becoming Brexit minister, Davis travelled to Luxembourg to hear the case. He argued that the British government was “treating the entire nation as suspects” by ignoring safeguards on retaining and accessing personal communications data.
Davis, one of the most vociferous critics of the state’s powers to collect data on its citizens, withdrew from the case following his ministerial appointment.
Ok, he may still be interested but just not enough to stand up against the government and do something about it any more.
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DFawkes 32,785 posts
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Registered 16 years agoFair enough
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chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoCareer before principles, obviously.
May's a big fan of the new law, and she's now the PM who appointed him with a cabinet position. -
Maybe she did that so Davis wouldn't pursue opposition to the bill any further.
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Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoIt's a cross party opposition so him supporting it or not is too late at this stage.
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Registered 14 years ago@MrT
Have you been watching House of Cards?
/I am pretty sure that TV show painted career politicians in such a bad light that it helped Trump get in. (And The Westwing probably helped Obama).
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I started an Instagram last night, after a few bikini pics my snoop level will be over 9000 -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoMrTomFTW wrote:
tbh I think that barely requires any tinfoil at all and probably quite likely.
Maybe she did that so Davis wouldn't pursue opposition to the bill any further.
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Registered 7 years agoIt's really not that complicated. David Davis dropping his participation in the case is fairly simple - if you are in the government you can't take personal action against it. Instead you would try to influence from the inside. He will still believe that position I am sure.
I think the funnier aspect is that in his current day job as Brexit Minister he is trying to get out from under the rule of those pesky European courts - the ones that in this case were the only way he could get what he wanted. -
Don't we think that the role is a poisoned chalice and May is attempting to get retribution by placing him in it and hoping that he fails?
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The article I read left that bit out, mostly likely because they're evil biased mainstream media (or some other such thing).