Acidizer wrote:You guys don't have contactless yet then? That's even quicker than cash. |
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disusedgenius 10,677 posts
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chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoExactly. Bloody luddites, waiting in line, counting out cash, waiting for change. -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWhile flashing a wodge of cash every time you need to pay for anything foreveryone to see screams safety, and nobody ever steals money. Or makes you look like a pikey cash-in-hand tax dodging scumbag.
I was stood behind a complete twat at a bar the other day. Paying for the round he got a massive wodge of 20s and 50s. Loud mouth arsehole that made sure *everybody* knew he was buying a massive round, and could hear the *hilarious* anecdotes he had. -
Sharz 2,121 posts
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Registered 6 years agodisusedgenius wrote:
To be fair contactless has a limit, generally it's £15 or £20 a day. Something you can easily go over filling a car.
Acidizer wrote:
You guys don't have contactless yet then? That's even quicker than cash.
Hate waiting in line at the petrol station. All these knobs paying with credit card, holding up the line for minutes at a time each, when all I need is literally 2 seconds. Approach, hand over cash, pivot, outta there.
I do use it when possible, entering a pin is so old now. -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoYou saying tax dogers don't work cash-in-hand and pay for things in cash? They're not going to put all that money in a bank account are they? Makes it too easy for HMRC to ask arkward questions it if they get investigated -
@Sharz It's been bumped up to £30 now. I love it, I wish more places did contactless. -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWhat I wish we had more of is pay at the pump petrol stations. Do they really make that much money off impulse chocolate purchases? -
DaM 17,729 posts
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Registered 20 years agoSharz wrote:
I think it's per transaction, not per day. Also, individual retailers can accept more if they want - eg there is no limit in the Apple Store for Apple Pay. Which ironically was the only place I've had difficulty with it on my watch....
disusedgenius wrote:
To be fair contactless has a limit, generally it's £15 or £20 a day. Something you can easily go over filling a car.
Acidizer wrote:
You guys don't have contactless yet then? That's even quicker than cash.
Hate waiting in line at the petrol station. All these knobs paying with credit card, holding up the line for minutes at a time each, when all I need is literally 2 seconds. Approach, hand over cash, pivot, outta there.
I do use it when possible, entering a pin is so old now. -
Load_2.0 33,582 posts
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Registered 18 years agoI am waiting for the first big contactless security flaw to be exploited. Will get on board on a year or two.
Always like to have cash in the wallet. Makes life a bit easier. -
DaM 17,729 posts
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Registered 20 years agochopsen wrote:
I've seen a few....Shell have also got a QR code app thing, which I've signed up for and not used.
What I wish we had more of is pay at the pump petrol stations. Do they really make that much money off impulse chocolate purchases? -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoMy local Tesco station has pay at the pump (for all those clubcard goodies..). It's much easier. Except when fuckers use the pay at the pump pumps and then still go in to pay. Grrr. -
Whizzo 44,810 posts
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Registered 20 years agoHow times change. 
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AceGrace 3,464 posts
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Registered 11 years agoI always pay cash where possible especially petrol stations. Just asking for your card to be cloned. -
I assume the reason why supermarkets have pay at pump more than the normal filling stations is because 'petrol' is a loss leader for them, which in turn squeezes price for (say) BP which will come out of the forecourt owners pocket.
I read somewhere that the forecourts make many times more profit on a bottle of water than they do a tank of fuel. It's like McDonalds, famously referred to by economists as a 'Coke reseller that also makes hamburgers' due to their big profit leader -
mothercruncher 19,474 posts
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Registered 15 years agochopsen wrote:
You lightweight- I once had to wait whilst my friend spent his 50p pocket money on 100 c a r e f u l l y c o u n t e d half-penny sweets from the jar.
I was stood behind a complete twat at a bar the other day. Paying for the round he got a massive wodge of 20s and 50s. Loud mouth arsehole that made sure *everybody* knew he was buying a massive round, and could hear the *hilarious* anecdotes he had. -
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mothercruncher 19,474 posts
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Registered 15 years agoFantastic- our bills will go up to pay for the government's spy program.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/nov/11/broadband-bills-increase-snoopers-charter-investigatory-powers-bill-mps-warned?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech
Hopefully, this'll be the thing that makes people give a shit. -
RobAnybody 2,892 posts
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Registered 10 years agoWhat a farce. -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoISPs are getting in early, this isn't even the Bill scrutiny committee! -
Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoIs there anyone involved in writing this with technical knowledge? -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoBugger technical knowledge. The idea someone that represents a serious terrorist threat is going to be sat at home, connected to the internet via an unencrypted connection via their ISP googling "jihadi bomb attack" or whatever it laughable. -
President_Weasel 12,355 posts
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Registered 17 years agochopsen wrote:
While I don't support this bill in any way, that's a bit disingenuous. You don't really need to be a "serious terrorist threat" to be dangerous. There's no way this is going to catch Sir Roger Al Quaeda, but it might catch a couple of shit wits before they beat the odds, actually go through with something, don't blow themselves up making bathtub explosives, and actually kill some people.
Bugger technical knowledge. The idea someone that represents a serious terrorist threat is going to be sat at home, connected to the internet via an unencrypted connection via their ISP googling "jihadi bomb attack" or whatever it laughable.
And all we have to do to lessen the already small chance of this happening is to live in a benthamite panopticon with government snoops constantly looking over our shoulders. Where do I sign up? -
Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoHundreds of millions of pounds, massive amounts of data that someone will want to hack into and the invasion of privacy of the entire country.
To catch a couple of people? There are so many other indicators someone is up to something and how many have we missed that this would have caught? (Given the number of attacks, the answer is zero) -
chopsen 21,958 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWhich is fine if mass surveillance worked, but it doesn't.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn26801-mass-surveillance-not-effective-for-finding-terrorists/
My example is a little bit facetious, but there's theoretical and observational arguments about why it's ineffective.
However, it does fit the criteria of "something must be done, this is something doable, do it." Outcomes be damned. -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoThis ultimately is about being able to access the conversations some might have over things like WhatsApp and FaceBook messenger. -
Smeggly 429 posts
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Registered 6 years agoSharz wrote:
It's £30 per transaction.
disusedgenius wrote:
To be fair contactless has a limit, generally it's £15 or £20 a day. Something you can easily go over filling a car.
Acidizer wrote:
You guys don't have contactless yet then? That's even quicker than cash.
Hate waiting in line at the petrol station. All these knobs paying with credit card, holding up the line for minutes at a time each, when all I need is literally 2 seconds. Approach, hand over cash, pivot, outta there.
I do use it when possible, entering a pin is so old now. -
DodgyPast 9,353 posts
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Registered 16 years agoDougs wrote:
Really Cameron just wants to be able to check if his wife's cheating on him.
This ultimately is about being able to access the conversations some might have over things like WhatsApp and FaceBook messenger. -
The UK government literally does not understand how the internet works.
Glaringly obvious flaws pointed out by an ISP boss. Most comical of all is that they're not going to require small ISP's to log at all, a tiny hole in their surveillance master plan doncha think?
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