Anyone excited about FF (Fantastic Four) film? Page 8

  • CosmicFuzz 5 Aug 2015 13:17:14 32,632 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
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    X-Men First Class and DoFP are pretty good.
    They tried their best to ruin dofp, though, insisting the old franchise be shoehorned into the new one just because first class didn't set the world on fire.

    Another director would have fucked that up horribly.
    I definitely think First Class is the better film. The future segments of DoFP just never seem remotely interesting or necessary beyond 'plot'.

    I'm also not really a fan of pure black costumes that Singer has the team wear. The yellow worked well in First Class I thought. Give them some colour at least.
  • Not-a-reviewer 5 Aug 2015 13:27:47 7,686 posts
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    Whizzo wrote:
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    Saw the trailer for this at MI5 last night and even that bored the shit out of me.
    The best part of which, isn't even in the film.
    They cut out the baseball scene?!!
  • nickthegun 5 Aug 2015 13:38:25 87,711 posts
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    The thing with the costumes is the the first movie when most people thought superheroes were stupid. Even wolverine makes a joke about wearing spandex.

    It's kind of normalised now so you can get away with captain america wearing a flag and all that caper.
  • McEwan 5 Aug 2015 13:49:18 884 posts
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    reviewer wrote:
    Whizzo wrote:
    TarickStonefire wrote:
    Saw the trailer for this at MI5 last night and even that bored the shit out of me.
    The best part of which, isn't even in the film.
    They cut out the baseball scene?!!
    Believe it or not, YES!
  • Whizzo 5 Aug 2015 22:58:30 44,810 posts
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    See a large portion of what the evil version of Doctor Doom does in the new movie in this video.

    I was quite impressed at the violence of it but it's pretty much all he fucking does.

    Edited by Whizzo at 22:58:54 05-08-2015
  • beastmaster 5 Aug 2015 23:02:06 22,373 posts
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    Whizzo wrote:
    See a large portion of what the evil version of Doctor Doom does in the new movie in this video.

    I was quite impressed at the violence of it but it's pretty much all he fucking does.
    Still looks amazingly shit though. Will still go and use my Cineworld pass and see this crock.
  • Derblington 5 Aug 2015 23:27:30 35,161 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    CosmicFuzz wrote:

    X-Men First Class and DoFP are pretty good.
    They tried their best to ruin dofp, though, insisting the old franchise be shoehorned into the new one just because first class didn't set the world on fire.

    Another director would have fucked that up horribly.
    I thought it was Singer that put them in DoFP when he took over from Vaughn, because he specifically couldn't let his version go and felt that shoehorning them into the new series, creating some obvious continuity issues, was a great idea to give it closure after the shambles that was Final Stand?

    There's about 20 minutes of really good stuff in X-men 2, the rest is average at best, imo. Singer isn't the right director for superhero movies, though DoFP was decent.
  • QotSAfan 6 Aug 2015 21:38:47 2,402 posts
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    DoFP past was such a disappointment after First Class. Singer judging from his movies must be the most boring person on the planet.
  • Deleted user 6 August 2015 21:49:34
    Only if you just watch shitty cartoon movies.
  • CosmicFuzz 6 Aug 2015 21:57:35 32,632 posts
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    Saw this tonight. Pretty awful. Has a decent first third, but once they get their powers it all goes to shit. Really dark in places, hints of body horror here and there, but I don't think that really suits this film. For all the Time Story films got wrong, they got the humour/family element.

    Ben is barely in it, Doom is fucking awful, the narrative jumps all over the place and the final act is like a bad videogame cutscene.

    Feels like a lot of the film is on the cutting room floor. Would love to learn what happened behind the scenes, because there's a real drop in quality from the second act onwards.
  • Baihu1983 7 Aug 2015 04:47:42 14,378 posts
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    Getting crushed in the reviews
  • beastmaster 7 Aug 2015 08:47:09 22,373 posts
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    Cast walked through Comi Con and nobody noticed

    Either that or they just didn't give a flying fuck!

    Also...

    Trank blames studio for shit film.
  • Not-a-reviewer 7 Aug 2015 09:04:10 7,686 posts
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    Fox love to interfere but still the director should be able to make something better than a 9% positive review film even then.
  • twelveways 7 Aug 2015 09:05:04 7,131 posts
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    I can't believe how shit Doom looks, how the hell did they fuck up Doom?
  • CosmicFuzz 7 Aug 2015 09:07:25 32,632 posts
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    I got the impression the first third was Trank, and the second two thirds had a lot of meddling. Whether that was because Trank had turned in something worse or was an arse or whatever I've no idea, but it felt very disjointed and abrupt. There's some decent promise in the first act, and I didn't mind too much that it took ages for them to get their powers because the character stuff was decent.
  • beastmaster 7 Aug 2015 09:17:26 22,373 posts
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    Studio interference only really goes public when the film turns out to be a turd. The original script for Blues Brothers 2000 got rewritten by the studio 17 times before filming began.

    However bad it was, he really shouldn't have done that Tweet. It's probably hell to have so much pressure and involvement from the studio but if a director is going to potentially work for Disney, the person should be able to handle it. It's probably a good job Disney ditched him from making the Han Solo film.

    Edited by beastmaster at 09:18:34 07-08-2015
  • Sharz 7 Aug 2015 09:34:58 2,121 posts
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    Why does this film exist in the first place is what I don't understand. Ok the one they did a few years ago was flawed but it atleast had a family friendly heart.

    Oh yay another super hero origin story.  See also Spiderman and Superman.
  • CosmicFuzz 7 Aug 2015 09:37:57 32,632 posts
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    It exists purely because Fox don't want the rights to revert to Marvel.

    And just because you're bored of superhero films doesn't mean the public are. Look at the cash that Avengers etc is bringing in.
  • twelveways 7 Aug 2015 09:42:11 7,131 posts
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    He was complaining about the origin aspect rather than the superhero aspect, I kind of agree. I love superheroes but the origins do drag on a bit, especially when they get rebooted every few years.
  • Sharz 7 Aug 2015 09:50:48 2,121 posts
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    @CosmicFuzz

    I love super hero movies, just that keep re telling the same stories just with a few changes is frustrating. First hour they are lost and then they get powers and must stop the big bad. Oh and dont forget some speech about great power,  great responsibility.

    Why not build on current stories? And yes I am aware the exact origin does change but not the way they tell it.

    Edited by Sharz at 09:57:53 07-08-2015
  • disusedgenius 7 Aug 2015 09:54:11 10,677 posts
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    They should just make it a Dr Doom film anyway, with the FF guys as the 'baddies' trying to foil our noble hero. That's an Origin film I'd actually give a shit to see.
  • twelveways 7 Aug 2015 09:58:53 7,131 posts
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    A proper Doom movie could be great, he was always one of my favourite villains in the comics and I liked the way that he wasn't always bad.
  • CosmicFuzz 7 Aug 2015 10:01:43 32,632 posts
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    Sharz wrote:
    @CosmicFuzz

    I love super hero movies, just that keep re telling the same  stories just with a few changes is frustrating. First hour they are lost and then they get powers and must stop the big bad.

    Why not build on current stories? And yes I am aware the exact origin does change but not the way they tell it.
    Ah I see what you mean. Yeah, origin stories do tend to be rather similar in terms of plot beats, but I don't mind that too much.

    I think the hope with all this shared-universe stuff, studios are starting to build more on what came before, or just skip past the origins completely (like Hulk, Spidey and new Batman).

    With something like FF, the intention was clearly to go right back to the start and create a new origin that could be used as a foundation for numerous films moving forward and that the older 2005 origin wouldn't work (and also, they didn't want folk to associate the new film with that one).
  • CosmicFuzz 7 Aug 2015 10:02:57 32,632 posts
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    disusedgenius wrote:
    They should just make it a Dr Doom film anyway, with the FF guys as the 'baddies' trying to foil our noble hero. That's an Origin film I'd actually give a shit to see.
    That would certainly be an interesting take! Unfortunately I reckon Doom is completely fucked for film now. As are FF, tbh.
  • Deleted user 7 August 2015 23:10:55
    I think...this movie sucks: https://youtu.be/22xbTzn89Qo lol
  • Deleted user 7 August 2015 23:36:40
    You think that, or someone on the internet told you that you need to think that?...

    It does look absolutely fucking awful, mind you...
  • gammonbanter 8 Aug 2015 05:09:57 2,283 posts
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    Oh boy, this all sounds bad, the thing is, are we gonna get another FF film from Fox or are they gonna "do a Sony" and lease the foursome our to Marvel for a few movies?

    Edited by gammonbanter at 05:14:07 08-08-2015
  • twelveways 8 Aug 2015 05:46:53 7,131 posts
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    If it is as bad as it seems to be then it looks like they may have poisoned the franchise...
  • Deleted user 8 August 2015 05:56:59
    dfunked wrote:
    You think that, or someone on the internet told you that you need to think that?...

    It does look absolutely fucking awful, mind you...
    I guess you didn't click the link. If you had, you'd know I was joking.

    Looking online, it seems another movie is scheduled for the 9th of June 2017.

    Edited by TSD at 06:01:06 08-08-2015
  • Derblington 8 Aug 2015 08:39:16 35,161 posts
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    It may be shit but it's still making money. There are people in here that knew it was terrible before they lined up for entry.
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