Donald Trump, first orange US President Page 1353

  • reddevil93 29 Jul 2020 00:00:24 15,527 posts
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    Good breakdown, cheers. Though I'd always feel the social media propaganda campaigns could well have been enough to swing the tight margins in the 3 or so States that made the difference in 2016. But as you say, definitely not the main reason Hillary lost.

    Really hard to see how, barring any major scandal, it turns into a close race again. Especially if he gets the VP pick right. Susan Rice is latest name I keep hearing. Trump will just keep getting pictured on the golf course as the deaths rack up.
  • Rogueywon Most Generous Forumite, 2016 29 Jul 2020 00:09:02 8,991 posts
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    @reddevil93 The number of factors that could have tripped it in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin is pretty huge. Russian interference could have been part of it. But ultimately, Kellyanne Conway and others in Trump's team (though not Mr. Cranky himself) were smart enough to see the cracks in the blue wall and went for those seats hard while Clinton went preaching to the choir in safe states. That's what decided it.
  • Technoishmatt 29 Jul 2020 02:20:59 4,272 posts
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    If it weren't so fucking terrifying (the real world implications of more Trump and co), I would be looking forward to the increasingly entertaining campaign by the Lincoln Project.

    Apart from the massively reduced number of undecided this time around, surely the republicans against Trump just kill it. They seem well funded enough.

    Also, could you imagine if Kamala Harris was the VP, and Biden being about 112, he croaks it, and USA gets its first female president who is also black.

    Edited by Technoishmatt at 02:21:40 29-07-2020
  • Rodney 29 Jul 2020 03:39:55 4,465 posts
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    Trump has managed about a week of COVID press briefings before fucking it up again.

    He just doubled down on that alien DNA doctor, and said she was "very impressive" before cutting questions short and walking off

    How the fuck do people see this type of stuff and still vote for him. Its really hard not to assume they are just as ignorant as him.
  • Rodney 29 Jul 2020 03:45:24 4,465 posts
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    Pretty interesting little piece on COVID-19 and political polarisation in the US

    https://youtu.be/EqY3baNuImA

    Moving story about a black bus driver at 17:20, and interviews with crazy Qanon Trump supporting militia types from 20:50

    One of them has a shrine to Trump in their house, and another is almost crying when his speech is disrupted by black lives matter protestors
  • creepiest-lizard 29 Jul 2020 06:09:42 1,403 posts
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    It was funny to see how long Trump could keep up acting like a normal human being and just read from a script. One press conference. One.
  • Trowel 29 Jul 2020 09:48:53 23,486 posts
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    This is an interesting coincidence given the location of Trump's hotel, though I doubt there's any specific evidence to prove there's anything underhand...

    https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/status/1288293175258488832
  • PierrePressure 30 Jul 2020 14:09:17 1,109 posts
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    Trump calling for a delay to the election.


    Well there you go.
  • Mola_Ram 30 Jul 2020 14:13:14 23,982 posts
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    I don't think he will get his wish.
  • askew 30 Jul 2020 14:20:11 21,554 posts
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    Here we go… :D
  • MrWonderstuff 30 Jul 2020 14:27:55 3,300 posts
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    Cunt.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53597975
  • JamboWayOh 30 Jul 2020 14:39:12 19,988 posts
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    If anything he's entirely predictable. In a just world he'd be dragged out of the oval office and executed in the street like Gadaffi.
  • Mola_Ram 30 Jul 2020 14:52:20 23,982 posts
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    I dunno, most of what Trump says is bullshit. He can tweet whatever he likes, that doesn't mean he gets to do any of it.

    But he is paving the way for calling the whole election illegitimate, and that's more worrying than stupid bullshit about cancelling or delaying it.
  • Not-a-reviewer 30 Jul 2020 14:53:55 6,309 posts
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    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/24/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-november-election-postpone/index.html

    Looks like he can’t do it, even if every republican supported it. If it got delayed without vote then Pelosi would be in charge.

    He’ll just stick with the safe option of voter suppression and intimidation in the end.
  • Mola_Ram 30 Jul 2020 14:57:56 23,982 posts
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    Yeah, that's the thing. The election being delayed doesn't mean that he'd still get to be in charge for the interim. He hasn't thought about any of this, it's just yet another example of him vomiting out whatever transient thoughts make it through to his brain.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 30 Jul 2020 14:58:28 13,966 posts
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    What’s the point of having a secret police if you can’t brutalise opposition voters?
  • Farley2k 30 Jul 2020 15:03:50 243 posts
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    it is his way of bitching until he dies that he was robbed - and milking it for all it is worth in terms of money
  • Not-a-reviewer 30 Jul 2020 15:37:10 6,309 posts
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    Even with a loaded Supreme Court he’s lost some things as well. I can’t see him even managing it if he tried to change it all by executive order.
  • Your-Mother 30 Jul 2020 15:52:14 4,472 posts
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    It’s the usual squawking and blustering to ensure bad news (US GDP shrinking) is marginalized in the news cycle. Coupled with the consistent “sow the seeds of doubt about the legitimacy of the election” thing he’s been doing for the past four years.
  • Your-Mother 30 Jul 2020 15:52:51 4,472 posts
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    And Herman Cain just died of Covid. After specifically not wearing a mask at a Trump rally.
  • JamboWayOh 30 Jul 2020 15:53:56 19,988 posts
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    Your-Mother wrote:
    And Herman Cain just died of Covid. After specifically not wearing a mask at a Trump rally.
    No way.

    Well, I suppose he followed the Republican doctrine of taking responsibility for your own actions. I saw that tweet of him at that rally surrounded by people. He's dead but what a stupid cunt.

    Edited by JamboWayOh at 15:56:38 30-07-2020
  • Jono62 30 Jul 2020 15:57:59 25,350 posts
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    Your-Mother wrote:
    It’s the usual squawking and blustering to ensure bad news (US GDP shrinking) is marginalized in the news cycle. Coupled with the consistent “sow the seeds of doubt about the legitimacy of the election” thing he’s been doing for the past four years.
    https://twitter.com/SimonMarksFSN/status/1288844586060845058?s=19
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 30 Jul 2020 18:43:04 13,966 posts
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    At what point does he start hinting that good people with guns should “monitor” polling stations in “certain“ areas in case of fraud?
  • Your-Mother 30 Jul 2020 22:11:01 4,472 posts
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    So Trump is now pulling the “I wasn’t being serious, lol at you for taking me so seriously, fake news” card.
  • Your-Mother 30 Jul 2020 22:20:52 4,472 posts
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    He’s also said he fully supports absentee voting. Which is the EXACT SAME THING as mail in voting. Anyone can declare themselves absentee and vote by mail.
  • Khanivor 30 Jul 2020 22:28:07 44,456 posts
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    They are not the same thing. One had the word absentee and is for real Americans and other has the word mail in and is for Satan worshipping communist dead illegal
    Immigrants.
  • JamboWayOh 30 Jul 2020 22:31:18 19,988 posts
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    https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/07/how-jared-kushners-secret-testing-plan-went-poof-into-thin-air

    They're all cunts, letting people die for political reasons. Seriously, fuck them all.
  • Khanivor 30 Jul 2020 22:38:14 44,456 posts
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    They aren’t letting them die. They are making them die.
  • PazJohnMitch 30 Jul 2020 22:46:33 15,989 posts
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    Don’t worry you can just vote Trump out in a few months time... Oh wait.
  • Psychotext 31 Jul 2020 11:17:52 67,168 posts
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    Your-Mother wrote:
    He’s also said he fully supports absentee voting. Which is the EXACT SAME THING as mail in voting. Anyone can declare themselves absentee and vote by mail.
    The funny thing about the voting by mail thing is that usually it's fairly even between Republicans and Democrats... but thanks to Trumps bullshit it's looking like many Republicans wont vote that way any more.

    Net result? Fewer trump voters (as not all of those will get themselves to a polling station instead).
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