Donald Trump, first orange US President Page 1387

  • TechnoHippy 15 Sep 2020 07:44:15 17,738 posts
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    To be honest there are far too many people who think the same - science doesn't know.
  • Zyrr 15 Sep 2020 07:54:59 475 posts
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    I honestly don't think he understands the (crucial) difference between climate, weather and seasonal temperature changes. I fully expect him to point to temperatures in California cooling down in October/November and saying "See? I told them it would get cooler!". It's the about the same level of comprehension as a five year old.
  • Baihu1983 15 Sep 2020 07:56:24 12,704 posts
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    Notice the smile after the bloke mentions world record

    Ignoring the rest of it
  • Baihu1983 15 Sep 2020 08:28:01 12,704 posts
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    Holy shit

    https://youtu.be/elshZ5pP5dY
  • quadfather 15 Sep 2020 08:31:26 36,915 posts
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    "They don't have problems like this," he said. "They have very explosive trees, but they don't have problems like this."
  • Dougs 15 Sep 2020 08:33:26 95,479 posts
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    @Zyrr I think you are doing 5 year olds a disservice
  • Tonka 15 Sep 2020 08:44:11 31,114 posts
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    Baihu1983 wrote:
    Holy shit

    https://youtu.be/elshZ5pP5dY
    The thing is... +he's not wrong. Well, the term explosive was funny and he probably didn't talk to anyone with explosive trees.

    But, after the big fires in Australia there was some talk about how the aborigines used to set off controlled fires at opportune moments to reduce the risk of out of control wildfires.

    The same thing cropped up in an article I read about the native americans living in Yosemite. It was more of an aside there, but it mentioned how they cultivated the forest to prevent damaging wildfires etc.

    Then I saw a video the other day about some american tribe that are doing this nowadays. They gather up materials and do controlled burns to prevent large scale wildfires.

    Exactly how they managed to keep this knowledge allowed after a law was passed that prohibited intentionally setting fire to forests wasn't covered.

    But, the idea that nature left to its own device will be nice and cozy doesn't seem to hold much water. Some form of domestication has been a part of human culture for a while.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mby72d2Vz30

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-51043828

    https://www.outsideonline.com/2415767/leave-it-as-it-is-david-gessner-book-excerpt

    Edited by Tonka at 08:53:20 15-09-2020
  • TheSaint 15 Sep 2020 08:45:25 19,883 posts
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    quadfather wrote:
    "They don't have problems like this," he said. "They have very explosive trees, but they don't have problems like this."
    In fairness, they do have a problem with exploding trees. The national parks in America have been trying to remove non-native species like eucalyptus for this very reason.
  • RyanDS 15 Sep 2020 08:45:45 13,326 posts
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    Tonka wrote:
    Baihu1983 wrote:
    Holy shit

    https://youtu.be/elshZ5pP5dY
    The thing is... +he's not wrong. Well, the term explosive was funny and he probably didn't talk to anyone with explosive trees.

    But, after the big fires in Australia there was some talk about how the aborigines used to set off controlled fires at opportune moments to reduce the risk of out of control wildfires.

    The same thing cropped up in an article I read about the native americans living in Yosemite. It was more of an aside there, but it mentioned how they cultivated the forest to prevent damaging wildfires etc.

    Then I saw a video the other day about some american tribe that are doing this nowadays. They gather up materials and do controlled burns to prevent large scale wildfires.

    Exactly how they managed to keep this knowledge allowed after a law was passed that prohibited intentionally setting fire to forests wasn't covered.

    But, the idea that nature left to its own device will be nice and cozy doesn't seem to hold much water. Some form of domestication has been a part of human culture for a while.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mby72d2Vz30
    Firebreaks are not exactly a new thing and I am pretty sure california does have them. The issue there is wind can spread embers for miles making them useless.

    Edited by RyanDS at 08:46:41 15-09-2020

    Edited by RyanDS at 08:51:01 15-09-2020
  • quadfather 15 Sep 2020 10:44:16 36,915 posts
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    TheSaint wrote:
    quadfather wrote:
    "They don't have problems like this," he said. "They have very explosive trees, but they don't have problems like this."
    In fairness, they do have a problem with exploding trees. The national parks in America have been trying to remove non-native species like eucalyptus for this very reason.
    We'll, I didn't know that. But the word explosive is a bit silly.

    And why is the election campaign ad showing russian planes?
  • Your-Mother 15 Sep 2020 10:51:54 4,743 posts
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    California absolutely does controlled burns and clearing specifically to address wildfires. It doesnít do much to help against drought and record temperatures due to climate change turning everything into kindling.

    Edited by Your-Mother at 10:54:00 15-09-2020
  • Your-Mother 15 Sep 2020 10:52:59 4,743 posts
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    https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/programs/prescribed-burning
  • Psychotext 15 Sep 2020 11:15:43 67,487 posts
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    Strangely enough I learned about exploding trees from a taxi driver in San-Francisco.

    Even so, it's still made much, much worse by climate change.
  • Tonka 15 Sep 2020 12:18:11 31,114 posts
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    A dad in my sons class has a house in the Portuguese countryside. He says illegal eucalyptus planting/harvesting is a big issue because eucalyptus trees grow fast and burn like tinder.

    Next time I see him I'll ask if they explode.
  • fontgeeksogood 15 Sep 2020 12:26:27 10,631 posts
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    Trees do explode, though. I've heard em
  • Rodney 15 Sep 2020 12:43:22 4,611 posts
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    One of the issues in Australia is that due to climate change the periods available for controlled burns are getting shorter, because it is normally done in cooler months, so the fuel loads accumulate over time which makes it harder to do controlled burns.

    I'm not sure if this is an issue in California
  • Tuffty 15 Sep 2020 12:48:17 4,622 posts
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    Whistleblowers report of mass hysterectomies taking place at an ICE detention center.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/like-an-experimental-concentration-camp-whistleblower-complaint-alleges-mass-hysterectomies-at-ice-detention-center/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Waiting for pro life people to be up in arms about this. Any moment now...
  • JamboWayOh 15 Sep 2020 12:53:37 20,750 posts
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    Tuffty wrote:
    Whistleblowers report of mass hysterectomies taking place at an ICE detention center.

    https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/like-an-experimental-concentration-camp-whistleblower-complaint-alleges-mass-hysterectomies-at-ice-detention-center/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

    Waiting for pro life people to be up in arms about this. Any moment now...
    No, they only like white wombs.
  • Psychotext 15 Sep 2020 13:10:43 67,487 posts
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    Fucking hell, could they be more Nazi?
  • Khanivor 15 Sep 2020 13:30:56 44,563 posts
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    Yes. Give it time.
  • oldskooldeano 15 Sep 2020 14:02:57 3,136 posts
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    And we complain about the Chinese allegedly sterilising Uighur women.
  • Graxlar_v3 15 Sep 2020 14:04:28 10,467 posts
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    oldskooldeano wrote:
    And we complain about the Chinese allegedly sterilising Uighur women.
    I dont think one group of people doing a very bad thing means we cannot complain about another group of people doing the same bad thing.

    It is disgusting wherever it is happening and anyone complicit in this should be arrested.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 15 Sep 2020 14:08:16 20,707 posts
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    I donít think he was whatabouting.

    Itís so shocking my immediate reaction is that it canít be true. But then I know that it also can.
  • Tonka 15 Sep 2020 14:51:41 31,114 posts
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    Still, I'd wait until this is picked up by a bigger publication before I spread it further.

    Edit: Like the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54160638

    Fuck. Me.

    Edited by Tonka at 14:53:37 15-09-2020
  • Not-a-reviewer 15 Sep 2020 14:55:06 6,461 posts
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    On one hand I can believe itís true, on the other doing it would be fairly expensive and trump hates the government spending money without getting a cut of it.
  • Mola_Ram 15 Sep 2020 15:04:56 24,398 posts
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    That looks really fucking bad, but I think I'm going to wait until more details come out. Right now it's just someone alleging something.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 15 Sep 2020 16:54:56 20,707 posts
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    Trump getting into a big argument with Israel about face masks.

    https://twitter.com/joncoopertweets/status/1305571157475811328?s=21

    Little known fact about Israel. They take national security kinda seriously.
  • Psychotext 15 Sep 2020 17:13:34 67,487 posts
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    Hopefully it becomes a public argument. I love to see confused Trump supporters tying themselves in knots.
  • Not-a-reviewer 15 Sep 2020 17:20:39 6,461 posts
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    It was 22 hours ago so Iíd hope theyíve made progress by now.
  • JamboWayOh 15 Sep 2020 18:10:52 20,750 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Hopefully it becomes a public argument. I love to see confused Trump supporters tying themselves in knots.
    It's not really an issue if you've never heard of or ever used critical thinking.
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