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Should Marijuana (Weed) Be Legal in the UK? • Page 7
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onestepfromlost 2,721 posts
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Registered 14 years agoyeah, was me that linked it, but i know a lot of folk are too lazy to watch videos posted haha. -
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onestepfromlost 2,721 posts
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Registered 14 years agoAcidizer wrote:
Yeah its not something ive done myself, but i know a lot of people that do this. you take a chance with postal seziure, but heard its about 95% success rate
Physically_Insane wrote:
Interesting.
Regarding the discussion about it being very difficult to illegalise alcohol because it's already everywhere, so is marijuana. I buy it online. It's super simple. If you want to smoke it, you can order it tonight and get it delivered first class delivery the next day.
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I've been doing it for two years with a 100% success rate. It works perfectly. Like Ebay, pretty much all the marketplaces have a feedback system. -
we already have some fairly comprehensive case studies of what happens when you legalise weed in western societies, and it's all been positive as far as i know. there doesn't seem to be any sensible argument against it.
it is harmful (anything that reduces your faculties will eventually cause death by driving or whatever) but i don't buy that as a strong argument. we already have laws in place to stop that sort of behaviour and i don't think it will increase once the novelty of legal weed wears off.
the rest about it affecting your brain seems to be anecdotal as there's no good studies out there proving otherwise. it can't be that hard to put a good study together, and there are plenty of lobbyists who would prefer we get our kicks elsewhere, so i can only assume it's relatively harmless. -
onestepfromlost 2,721 posts
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Registered 14 years agoIn realtion to the mental health issues, personally i believe weed to be more of a catalyst than a cause. Does that make it better, a little i think, but again it always comes back to the issue that if someone wants to try it the fact that it is illegal makes no difference.
Legal or illegal the person with underlying mental health issues is going to get a hold of it to take it. Now if its legal at least some of the tax he paid will go towards his mental health treatment. -
Of course it's not legal. You have to make sure you are hiding your tracks when buying. Also, it is undetectable in the post. Every seller uses these silver envelopes that cover the smell and also make it impossible to be scanned to see the contents. -
onestepfromlost 2,721 posts
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Registered 14 years agointeresting point, its illegal to sell it and illegal to possess it, but until it drops through your letterbox, do you technically possess it? (probably something i should know studying law) -
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magicpanda 15,130 posts
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Registered 17 years ago@Acidizer
http://www.wired.com/2015/04/silk-road-1/
Awesome read
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gamingdave 5,087 posts
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Registered 17 years agoThere are lots of reasons to legalise it for me; potential tax revenue, take the money out of criminal gangs and reduced policing costs being some.
But by far the biggest would be that it would be possible to buy normal weed, as opposed to crazy strong skunk. As long as it remains illegal growers will look to maximise profits, and selling stronger skunk is a more efficient use of growing space, and is more efficient to transport (in that it takes the same physical space as weaker weed, but has a higher sale value).
Prohibition has not made it hard to buy, but it has limited choice to the stronger end of the market. It was the same with moonshine in the US, and it was the banning of opium that lead to the rise of heroin.
When I first smoked weed 20 years ago most of it was relatively mild, but these days the only stuff generally available is crazy strong. It's like drinking a pint of whisky instead of having a pint of shandy.
I have no doubt that marijuana can have negative effects on the brain, especially in developing ones. But by keeping it illegal this damaging effect is maximised. If legal, and an individual could make a choice over strength I believe this damage could be reduced.
Saying that, I am not suggesting it should be available to minors. I would expect it to be controlled like alcohol, limited to 18+, and obviously if your use impairs your ability and increases risk to others, such as in driving or operating heavy machinery, you should be prosecuted.
As for no politicians willing to make the stand, the Green party are in favour and the Lib Dems are leaning more and more in that direction (not that either really has a massive voice). I am confident it will happen sooner than latter, but will require cross party support to avoid a tabloid backlash. -
dogbot 2,902 posts
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Registered 11 years agoI still smoke a bit of weed occasionally and I still couldn't care less whether it's leglised or decriminalised or whatever. It makes not a shred of an iota of difference to me.
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magicpanda 15,130 posts
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Registered 17 years ago@gamingdave This is there the online markets shine, you are spolit for choice and can get your pint of shandy, fine wine, whiskey. -
gamingdave 5,087 posts
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Registered 17 years agomagicpanda wrote:
So I have heard, and I would imagine the kids of today will grow up knowing how to do this (that is if it isn't legalised). I have no idea of actual stats, but from anecdotal evidence, I know lots of people who smoke weed still, but only one who has used online methods, so at the moment at least this isn't what people are doing on the whole.
@gamingdave This is there the online markets shine, you are spoilt for choice and can get your pint of shandy, fine wine, whiskey. -
Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoA friend of a friend is a police officer. He says the biggest dealer in Sweden is the postal office. Makes it much harder to crack down on dealers as well. They can't go and arrest someone in say Amsterdam.
All the more reason to legalise it and tax the shit out of it whilst at the same time create new business opportunities for ppl with green thumbs. -
Sir_Stefansen 582 posts
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Registered 6 years agoProblem is not marijuana, but what lies beyond marijuana.
Allow me to make a little example. It could be silly, but believe me, it isn't.
Police say: on this road, over 100 km/h we fines you. Police knows that going at 100 km/h isn't dangerous, it becomes dangerous at 200 km/h, but police knows also what average driver thinks: "If going at 100 km/h is consented, I could go at 101 km/h because there is only a little difference"
Think this reasoning at 200 km / h and what misfortunes it could do
As with speed, even with drugs, the Law know what the average citizen thinks: "I want to try the first stage of the drug, just for fun, just for once"
Basically the trick is: make illegal what really does not hurt, so that you, chronic disobedient, will stop at the first stage, and without knowing it, you're actually still in the right -
That's a dumb analogy. Speed limits are law so that we do not do harm to others. Me smoking a joint in my flat whilst watching a film is not going to get anybody killed. -
mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agogamingdave wrote:
In my limited experience, that hasn't happened in the 'dam. I've no idea what's happened in Colorado and other places. You could perhaps argue that Amsterdam is still largely serving places where it's sale and use is restricted, so it's not quite comparable with a completely legal status, but it seems to me that since Amsterdam made it semi-legal, it's continued to get stronger, not the reverse.
But by far the biggest would be that it would be possible to buy normal weed, as opposed to crazy strong skunk. As long as it remains illegal growers will look to maximise profits, and selling stronger skunk is a more efficient use of growing space, and is more efficient to transport (in that it takes the same physical space as weaker weed, but has a higher sale value).
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The problem with street dealers is you get what's available, good or bad. Usually a sativa/indica hybrid, whereas if I were to grow my own I'd be looking at 100% Indica as I prefer the couch lock to the head buzz.
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