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And, if you look at it dispassionately, they have to, right? Moderate drug use is, basically, tolerated, it’s never been easier to score off the internet and UberDrugs operate in every town. Drug sales are so prevalent and sophisticated the only people NOT involved in it are the government which is just ridiculous. |
Should Marijuana (Weed) Be Legal in the UK? • Page 30
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nickthegun 87,711 posts
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quadfather 39,069 posts
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Registered 11 years agochopsen wrote:
Brought a smile to my face
nickthegun wrote:
Exactly.
Because the Tory base wouldn’t like it
but the curtain-twitching pensioners in the shires are never going to go for it.
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Globalmeltdown 1,061 posts
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Registered 12 years agoGot a bloke who constantly smokes it two doors down from me, smell is disgusting and I’ve got to keep all my windows closed, really hate the stuff, ban it forever. -
nickthegun 87,711 posts
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Registered 16 years agoGlobalmeltdown wrote:
This is my point. It is banned and he still smokes. There isn’t a moral or ethical case to be made for prohibition anymore, just regulation.
Got a bloke who constantly smokes it two doors down from me, smell is disgusting and I’ve got to keep all my windows closed, really hate the stuff, ban it forever.
It’s a stretch but if it were legal, the choice of weed would be broader and most people probably wouldn’t smoke the really stinky, turbo strength shit anymore, so you’d probably be able to leave your windows open a bit more. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoWe’re already at the thin end of the wedge. Medical cannabis has been legal here for a couple of years now. That’s how it starts. -
challenge_hanukkah 14,394 posts
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Registered 8 years agoIt's a slippery slope to a sensible drug policy. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agonickthegun wrote:
Again, he probably wouldn’t smoke it at all. Vaping is a much more pleasant and socially responsible option, but it’s hard to get the concentrates you need to do it properly here. And then there’s edibles which are super popular in the US.
Globalmeltdown wrote:
This is my point. It is banned and he still smokes. There isn’t a moral or ethical case to be made for prohibition anymore, just regulation.
Got a bloke who constantly smokes it two doors down from me, smell is disgusting and I’ve got to keep all my windows closed, really hate the stuff, ban it forever.
It’s a stretch but if it were legal, the choice of weed would be broader and most people probably wouldn’t smoke the really stinky, turbo strength shit anymore, so you’d probably be able to leave your windows open a bit more. -
quadfather 39,069 posts
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Registered 11 years agoEdibles, pipes, vapes, there are plenty of options. You could probably stick it up your bottom too. -
nickthegun 87,711 posts
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Registered 16 years agoYeah, absolutely. If you can get a bag of dope gummies from Tesco, why would you bother smoking it? -
quadfather 39,069 posts
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Registered 11 years agoI'd switch to gummies in a heartbeat - give my lungs a welcome breather -
richardiox 10,097 posts
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Registered 17 years agoI got a Pax vaporiser last year. About 90% less stinky than smoking and the smell doesn't linger. -
Cappy 14,393 posts
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Registered 16 years agoYou-can-call-me-kal wrote:
Still a twat I see.
Cappy wrote:
Yes. Let’s do the same with alcohol as well. Anyone who drinks ever shouldn’t be allowed a licence. Makes total sense to remove all personal responsibility from the equation.
They can legalise cannabis and whatever else they want but it should be a requirement that the user turns in their driving license. Things are bad enough already without habitual cannabis users given access to large quantities of cheap weed, turned loose on the roads.
Drug driving is a growing problem and unlike drink driving, it's far more difficult to prove. When potheads can go all day it's ridiculous to compare it the vast majority of drinkers who drink only in the evenings and they'll definitely be doing that at home these days.
I'll meet you half way, any dope head with a good chance of running you over can keep the license. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoEveryone’s at home these days you nob. -
BreadBinLidHero 10,801 posts
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Registered 12 years agoCappy wrote:
This is exactly the kind of scaremongering nonsense that was peddled to the ignorant hand-wringers over here.
You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
Still a twat I see.
Cappy wrote:
Yes. Let’s do the same with alcohol as well. Anyone who drinks ever shouldn’t be allowed a licence. Makes total sense to remove all personal responsibility from the equation.
They can legalise cannabis and whatever else they want but it should be a requirement that the user turns in their driving license. Things are bad enough already without habitual cannabis users given access to large quantities of cheap weed, turned loose on the roads.
Drug driving is a growing problem and unlike drink driving, it's far more difficult to prove. When potheads can go all day it's ridiculous to compare it the vast majority of drinkers who drink only in the evenings and they'll definitely be doing that at home these days.
I'll meet you half way, any dope head with a good chance of running you over can keep the license.
Firstly, almost everyone who wants to smoke weed already does it. Secondly, anyone who drives stoned already does it. Legalisation will make little-to-no material difference to these figures. In fact drug driving will likely go down in the long run as the government could concentrate money currently used to enforce cannabis prohibition to crack down on drug driving.
Thirdly, accurate roadside testing for drugs exists and is used here and in Aus.
Also your notion that it's incomparable to drink driving it's laughable. Most people only smoke in the evening, and drinkers can go all day too.
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Dirtbox 92,595 posts
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Registered 19 years agoCappy is the quintessential daily mail reader though, quite where he's getting this fallacy that everyone is going to start driving stoned is beyond me. Also the cheap weed part made me laugh, it's heavily taxed, the money from which goes into rehabilitation, addiction treatment, youth sex and drug education and all manner of other wholesome things. But he'd rather see criminals turn the profit and have that money go toward gangs, sex trafficking and other organized crime that destroys communities and people's lives. In other words, he needs a kicking.
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alt-cmd-esc 713 posts
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Registered 7 years agoWell, either that, or he’s a politician? I always imagined that very clever drug dealers are likely to fund groups that lobby against legalisation and decriminalisation, as that would mean more competition and having to pay tax? If so, Peter Hitchens et al are very useful idiots indeed. -
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You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThat article mostly shows that testing for drugged driving has improved.
But I don’t think anyone would claim it isn’t an issue, and I wouldn’t be surprised if there are more people doing it in line with a more relaxed attitude in general. That makes sense. There needs to be greater awareness around the dangers and stricter enforcement.
Still, the data clearly shows drunk driving remains more common and dangerous, as opposed to drinkers staying at home drinking quietly in the evenings or whatever the nonsense above was. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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brokenkey 11,128 posts
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Registered 20 years agoJudging a single piece of litter I found in town, and the researching "420"+[name of your town] on instagram, I'd conclude that eveything sold illegally in the UK has been produced and imported from the commercial manufacturers in USA.
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Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI've previously made the mental note that Cappy might be a bit special and have avoided indulging his random outbursts.
No I'm not joking. He's what we'd call round these parts a funny bugger -
Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@brokenkey Yep you can get commercial stuff from America delivered to your door -
Trafford 9,358 posts
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Registered 14 years agoMcNexus wrote:
And no kind of loyalty scheme either.
Probably, I don't really know enough about it really. It always struck me as odd, however, that the public were seemingly happy for any form of recreational drugs to be wholly controlled by criminals even in light of the many ghastly, inhuman activities it funds. -
brokenkey 11,128 posts
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Registered 20 years agoPsiloc wrote:
Yeah, not sure of the sense of having hardened criminals knowing where you live. Sounds like a recipe for blackmail.
@brokenkey Yep you can get commercial stuff from America delivered to your door -
richardiox 10,097 posts
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Registered 17 years agobrokenkey wrote:
Nah, these people want your weed money, they're making too much through selling weed online to get into the blackmail game.
Psiloc wrote:
Yeah, not sure of the sense of having hardened criminals knowing where you live. Sounds like a recipe for blackmail.
@brokenkey Yep you can get commercial stuff from America delivered to your door -
Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years agobrokenkey wrote:
That would be the postman
Psiloc wrote:
Yeah, not sure of the sense of having hardened criminals knowing where you live. Sounds like a recipe for blackmail.
@brokenkey Yep you can get commercial stuff from America delivered to your door -
theone1 150 posts
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Registered 7 years agoAt first I was using a fake name when ordering, then realised that as technically it's sent recorded delivery you have to sign for it (though the postie usally posts it through the letterbox or leaves on doorsstep -
Again, these days it’s less hardened criminals and more amateur horticulturalists with a bit of an entrepreneurial spirit.
Most of the so called ‘Cali’ weed is grown here. You buy fake American packaging on Etsy in bulk. It doesn’t really make a huge difference as plenty of people are homegrowing top grade stuff.
So I hear.
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