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the_milkybar_kid 8,474 posts
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Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years agoaddyb wrote:
MAME is a fussy emulator. Different versions of MAME require different versions of the ROM dumps, which in turn can require a corresponding matching BIOS. Then, you may find you have to use a certain sub-version of the ROM (i.e. v1.0, v1.1 of the arcade machine itself), and then it can also decide it wants you to run the game from a specific region, i.e. one of the Japan, US or World options.
Ahhh I see now. I just hardwired mine in and I use a 32gb usb stick for my roms.
None of my neogeo games work. I have the bios files but do they have to be all together in a zip? I extracted them and put them in the bios folder instead.
I think it gets easier with later versions of MAME, but unless I miss my guess you're probably running an older version on the Pi to optimise performance? It's what we have to do on low powered Windows machines anyway.
Rather than struggle with all this on a game by game basis the simplest thing to do by far is find a MAME ROM Set for the exact version of MAME you're running and dump the lot in the roms folder. I dunno how strict EG is for sharing ROM links, but literally Googling "mame rom set" takes you to the site I used. Includes BIOSs and everything. Even if you only ever play like 1% of the games included the simplicity is worth it. -
I've not actually spent any time playing a game yet. I was faffing all last night just looking at various guides and settings which isn't needed but I like to familiarise myself with it all.
My main aim tonight is to put the streets of rage remake on it. I've looked at guides for this but it looks like a bit of a blag. Maybe I'm just over complicating it. -
@Psiloc
I've not messed with mame properly yet mate. I'm purely trying to run neogeo games off the neogeo emulator. I've since found out the bios files have to remain zipped in the bios directory. I'd unzipped them so that must be the reason none of the games launch. -
Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years agoBut to answer your question directly MAME normally wants you to keep everything zipped, so in your case you'll have the zipped ROM and the zipped BIOS as two files in your ROMs folder.
By the way remember to turn on scanlines guys. Again no idea if it's the same on the Pi version but in Windows you'd just set the "effect" option to "scanlines" in the config file. Oh and also turn on v-sync. -
Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years agoaddyb wrote:
Oh fair enough. I've never used a dedicated NeoGeo emulator before. Not tempted to switch to MAME?
@Psiloc
I've not messed with mame properly yet mate. I'm purely trying to run neogeo games off the neogeo emulator. I've since found out the bios files have to remain zipped in the bios directory. I'd unzipped them so that must be the reason none of the games launch. -
Psiloc wrote:
I could do. I guess I've always just used a dedicated neogeo emulator for the roms. I'm not too bothered what I use as long as they work. I've yet to mess with mame on this pi yet. All of done is literally put a handful of games on for snes, megadrive and neogeo. Kids and life getting in the way of me having a proper play :/
addyb wrote:
Oh fair enough. I've never used a dedicated NeoGeo emulator before. Not tempted to switch to MAME?
@Psiloc
I've not messed with mame properly yet mate. I'm purely trying to run neogeo games off the neogeo emulator. I've since found out the bios files have to remain zipped in the bios directory. I'd unzipped them so that must be the reason none of the games launch. -
Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years agoUp to you but I'd probably just use MAME. I'd suggest it's probably the most popular and well supported NeoGeo emulator anyway.
On a tangent now but since MESS merged with MAME I think in the future we'll be using it to emulate pretty much everything, with dedicated emulators slowly falling out of favour. I've noticed online chatter already where people seem to think MAME is the one and only way of emulating stuff. -
Psiloc wrote:
What I'll do tonight is copy the same roms over to mame with the bios and just have a play and see if there is any performance issues. I'm easy really. It would make more sense to have them in mame.
Up to you but I'd probably just use MAME. I'd suggest it's probably the most popular and well supported NeoGeo emulator anyway.
On a tangent now but since MESS merged with MAME I think in the future we'll be using it to emulate pretty much everything, with dedicated emulators slowly falling out of favour. I've noticed online chatter already where people seem to think MAME is the one and only way of emulating stuff. -
BeebleB 1,340 posts
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Registered 13 years agoI've got a couple of snes like usb pads sitting at home so I think I'll grab a rasperry pi and have a go at setting this up over the the weekend.
Have a 40gb mame setup on my pc so think I'll give that a miss though. -
Yes the retropie posse is expanding nicely. You won't regret it guys. It's super .gif)
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the_milkybar_kid 8,474 posts
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Registered 7 years agoIs it better to install the roms to the SD card or to a USB stck? My SD is 32gig so that seems plenty, right? -
the_milkybar_kid wrote:
Doesn't really matter mate.
Is it better to install the roms to the SD card or to a USB stck? My SD is 32gig so that seems plenty, right? -
Streets of rage remake install guide here:
https://youtu.be/gNDYIUfMiDI -
Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years agoHas anyone tried 3D games in MAME on a Pi 3? -
@Psiloc
If you give me an example of one I can try it out. -
Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years agoThe various Tekkens are a good benchmark as they range all the way from PS1 quality to PS3. Well PS4 now I guess but I can't imagine it's worth even trying 7. -
Psiloc wrote:
Looking at some vids on YT tekken 3 looks like it runs quite well. Tekken Tag terrible.
The various Tekkens are a good benchmark as they range all the way from PS1 quality to PS3. Well PS4 now I guess but I can't imagine it's worth even trying 7. -
Ok I've had my retropie setup for a few days now but I've always used a seperate usb stick for the folder structure and roms on it. I've decided I want to have it all on the sd card where I installed retropie in the first place.
Problem I have is once I've installed the retropie image I can't get the roms file structure on it. I create the retropie directory as per guides but when I connect this into the pi it will boot to retropie as normal but won't create the folder structure under the retropie directory like it does with the usb stick.
Is there a way of doing this via command line when I hit F4? -
Cappy 14,393 posts
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Registered 16 years agoHas anybody come across a spinner/paddle/rotary controller with a USB connector?
As far as controllers go, they were already a evolutionary dead end by the 80s so it's no surprise that they're hard to find. Still, if you want to play games like Tempest, Arkanoid and Breakout nothing else works as well. -
Ignore my last post. I didn't realise it auto transfers roms to the sd card once inserted. Lol
My micro sd card has developed a fault though. I restarted my pi and then it wouldn't boot. I tested the card in my laptop and it's just not showing. Disk management shows nothing so it looks dead. First time this has happened so got onto amazon who are sending a replacement.
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mal 29,326 posts
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Registered 20 years agoIf you can find an old USB mouse that's not an optical mouse (i.e. one with a little ball at the bottom) that's got two rotary decoders in it, but it'd be a pretty big hack to make those into a spinner I guess. Also, finding one might be quite hard - all the mice I've bought in the last ten years have been optical.
Now I'm thinking of it, you could probably stick a USB optical mouse sideways in a box and put a textured drum under it's little light, and spin that and that might do too. -
Cappy 14,393 posts
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Registered 16 years agoThat's a pretty big job, furthermore I suspect such an old peripheral wouldn't be identified by a lot of emulators.
I've just looked further afield at trackballs, this one for the Playstation for instance not exactly a looker, maybe the psychedelic fascia is detachable. -
Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@addyb You're starting to seem like the right chap to direct these questions to.
I've glanced at a few videos on Retropie setup now. Are they right in suggesting you don't even have to install emulators yourself, you just transfer the ROMs over via USB and that's it?
I notice that on the PCB there's a strip of about 50 legs to attach a ribbon of some sort... what's that for and do I need to do something with it?
Lastly, and I know this is a bit odd, but how is the thing powered on? In my MAME cab I've attached a button to the case that powers on the PC - I've just soldered two wires between in and the existing power button on the mobo. Would I be able to use this with the Pi? In other words, does the PI turn on with a button that doesn't stay depressed, and are the points easily reachable on the PCB?
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@Psiloc
Yep all emulators are installed when you write the image to the sd card. All you have to do after that is create a retropie directory on a usb stick, insert that into pi and wait 30 secs. Disconnect and plug it back into pc and you will see all the file structure there. You then just drag and drop roms to the relevant folders.
No idea about that connector mate.
No power button on the pi. I shut it down via the software and then power up again by just removing the power cord and back in.
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the_milkybar_kid 8,474 posts
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Registered 7 years agoDidn't get to install it last night as I ended up staying round my mates. He's a good 'un though. Managed to get a brand new keyboard from work so I've got all weekend to mess around with it. -
One_Vurfed_Gwrx 4,467 posts
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Registered 15 years agoCappy wrote:
There was a paddle controller for the PS1 that you could use with a PS1 adaptor. It even came out in the UK but I forget which game it came bundled with (maybe Cleopatra's Fortune?) I have one and I recall it being fairly decent.
Has anybody come across a spinner/paddle/rotary controller with a USB connector?
As far as controllers go, they were already a evolutionary dead end by the 80s so it's no surprise that they're hard to find. Still, if you want to play games like Tempest, Arkanoid and Breakout nothing else works as well. -
Psiloc 6,366 posts
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Registered 14 years ago@addyb Nice one.
Sound like the power button might be redundant anyway then - it would just come on when I plugged in the arcade machine.
I'm probably going to pull the trigger on this. I've got to the point where I'm spending more time configuring the "nettop" that I put in there than actually playing anything as I try to eke out every last drop of performance.
I know there's a few years between them but it's still fascinating to me that this little £35 PCB will comfortably outperform £200 kit.
Are cases mandatory? It's going to sit inside an arcade machine where noone will see it so I hadn't planned on buying one, but a few of them mention that they work as a heatsink. What you reckon? -
the_milkybar_kid wrote:
Good luck
Didn't get to install it last night as I ended up staying round my mates. He's a good 'un though. Managed to get a brand new keyboard from work so I've got all weekend to mess around with it.
It's easy mate. A couple of things that I messed up on. After you've done the usb stick with roms and inserted it into the pi the activity light will blink like mad and stop.....and then start again so make sure you leave it in. It's busy copying the contents of the usb stick onto your sd card automatically. The guide I used never mentioned this and I always thought when I was playing a game it was reading it from the usb stick so got a tad confused.
For any roms that need bios files (neogeo) keep the files zipped.
Start + select will quit out of any game apart from mame. In mame hit tab on the keyboard and remap the exit UI option to use 2 buttons to quit out and also map the tab key to a button instead. Also map the pause option to a spare button as well. -
Very helpful once again, cheers matey.
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