Following Ultra HD Blu-ray

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  • neilka 1 Mar 2016 18:45:01 22,534 posts
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    It's the moment nobody was really waiting for: Ultra HD Blu-ray launched in the US today, and the first UK discs arrive on April 11th. HMV have the eight Fox launch titles (http://goo.gl/FCmou8 ) so you can enjoy every pixel of 4antastic 4our and Hitman Agent 47 over and over again. There's no actual players in the UK yet although you're looking at 600 quid next month.

    Anybody... anybody getting one?

    Edited by neilka at 18:49:51 01-03-2016
  • BinaryBob101 1 Mar 2016 18:58:44 26,802 posts
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    No.
  • Technoishmatt 1 Mar 2016 19:06:00 3,394 posts
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    Yes, probably, when the price comes down. I've purchased few UHD streaming titles, but it depends on the source how good it is (e.g. netflix UHD feels more around physical HD (i.e. blu-ray).

    I'd probably only buy the blu-rays that came with UltraViolet versions though, so I can go all streaming if I want to.
  • Reviewer_ 1 Mar 2016 19:08:58 359 posts
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    By time it could be popular enough for lots of releases, digital will have overtaken it.
  • Armoured_Bear 1 Mar 2016 19:14:11 26,678 posts
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    Once decent software is out and I have a new telly, I'll be in like Flynn.
  • Deleted user 1 March 2016 19:42:20
    Struggling to see the point at the moment. Besides as I use a projector the cost of going 4K is prohibitive to say the least.

    Also whilst newer films (last 5 or 6 years) will benefit from UHD I doubt Star Wars Episode 4 will look any better than it currently does for example.

    Maybe in a few years time, but not at the moment, and thats coming from a bonafide videophile as well.

    Edited by SwissTony1994 at 19:43:16 01-03-2016
  • captainrentboy 1 Mar 2016 19:46:36 1,682 posts
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    I'll get one when the price is a tad more normal. (Under 200 for the players)
    I've got a fairly nice 65" 4K TV, and some of the stuff I can stream off of the TV's YouTube app is pretty stunning (Netflix isn't bad either, but suffers from crushed blacks and pixelation a lot) and that YouTube content looks noticeably sharper and more vibrant than most of my Blu Rays, even though it's obviously being compressed to shit.
    Straight off the discs, with everything lossless, should be great!
  • Deleted user 1 March 2016 19:50:34
    captainrentboy wrote:
    Straight off the discs, with everything lossless, should be great!
    Its not lossless though is it, never will be, you are always losing something in the compression.
  • captainrentboy 1 Mar 2016 19:57:03 1,682 posts
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    Yeah true, I'm talking shit. :/
    But surely the data rates straight from the disc are going to be considerably higher than what I'm getting through YouTube and the Internet.

    (Edit- Had to have a gander, yeah up to 128 mbps off of the discs, as opposed to Netflix's 15-20 odd)

    That's what I meant.

    Edited by captainrentboy at 20:00:40 01-03-2016
  • Deleted user 1 March 2016 20:20:32
    captainrentboy wrote:
    Yeah true, I'm talking shit. :/
    But surely the data rates straight from the disc are going to be considerably higher than what I'm getting through YouTube and the Internet.

    (Edit- Had to have a gander, yeah up to 128 mbps off of the discs, as opposed to Netflix's 15-20 odd)

    That's what I meant.
    Absolutely. It will be glorious, eventually. I just cant see myself buying my whole movie collection again for the tenth time. Especially when probably 70% of those films wont look any different to what they do on Bluray.

    I'm more interested in HDR that 4K tbh, which is also part of the UHD spec of course.
  • captainrentboy 1 Mar 2016 20:49:37 1,682 posts
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    I think even if I had a player, I'd only ever buy the whopping shiny blockbusters on the format, the ones that'll really show off the increase in PQ.

    I've been a mug for years now, with both DVD and BR, I've bought (and sold on again) well over a thousand discs between the formats.
    With Netflix and what not nowadays it's not really a necessity any more.
  • Pierre2k 1 Mar 2016 21:18:47 1,124 posts
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    I'm interested in UHD bluray, but I definitely won't be an early adopter.

    Haven't actually bought a 4K TV yet, but it is on the cards to replace my ancient 720p telly that currently resides in the living room. Definitely get one within the next 6months at most.

    I'm still a big fan of physical media. I've never bought a digital only movie. The problem with UHD Bluray for me is that.....well...I haven't actually bought any TV/movies in a while, physical or digital. Between TIVO recordings, catch-up services, and Netflix, I rarely feel the need?

    Still, as captainrentboy says, for the big blockbusters this will be great, taking full, high bitrate advantage of all the UHD glory.
  • Deleted user 1 March 2016 22:06:33
    Indeed for the big blockbusters certainly I see the attraction. But in the end I am really in no hurry this time round.
  • Technoishmatt 1 Mar 2016 22:17:36 3,394 posts
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    The inclusion of Ultra Violet copies of films is a big bonus. I can stream almost any of my Blu-Rays (I try to buy only ones that include UV) from almost any source (iPhone, Smart TV, Browser), without having to do anything but log-in.

    My guess is they will add the option to upgrade existing HD copies to UHD, for a price. VUDU already does this for blu-rays you own that don't have a UV copy.
  • mal 1 Mar 2016 22:18:47 29,326 posts
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    PirateRoberts wrote:
    The Ps3 might only be able to manage partial support, but there is no excuse other than corporate bullshit
    Ha. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
  • Deleted user 1 March 2016 23:28:33
    Mastered in 4K isn't played back in 4k, so that's a completely moot point. The technical reason the PS3 won't support UHDBD is it doesn't support HDMI 2 or HDCP 2.2, meaning no store purchased UHDBD will work unless they do a hardware revision (which they're absolutely not going to do). Sure, technically it could support some random 4K movie rip downloaded off a torrent site, but that's not what this is about.

    Edited by Gremmoo at 23:28:45 01-03-2016
  • Decks Best Forumite, 2016 1 Mar 2016 23:30:34 19,710 posts
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    Now you've done it.
  • Youthist 2 Mar 2016 00:11:26 13,768 posts
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    You what?
  • Deleted user 2 March 2016 00:55:16
    HDCP 2.2 is not a firmware upgrade or software encoding. It's chip based and requires new hardware.
  • Deleted user 2 March 2016 00:56:54
    http://www.techhive.com/article/2881620/4k-content-protection-will-frustrate-consumers-more-than-pirates-meet-hdcp-22.html
  • Deleted user 2 March 2016 00:59:07
    HDCP 2.2 is not backward compatible with the previous versions of HDCP that are currently used by most of the HD devices in all our homes. Thanks to its ignominious track record of exploitations, the protocol required a clean refresh, and since it's implemented at the hardware level, manufacturers can't simply release new firmware to bring old gear up to speed.
  • Deleted user 2 March 2016 01:00:08
    We're upgrading the sitting-room TV to the Sony XD94 over the summer, will get a player then, looking forward to HDR Star Wars and The Martian :)
  • Deleted user 2 March 2016 01:07:04
    The person writing your posts is wrong.
  • Deleted user 2 March 2016 01:07:14
    In several ways.
  • Deleted user 2 March 2016 01:09:18
    This is from the same CNET article you quoted:

    Your current gear is not 2.2-upgradable, but that's probably OK

    There's no firmware upgrade that will get 2.2 working on a non-2.2 product. At least, not on a product that wasn't designed with at least some idea about 2.2. For the time being, as we've said, it's not a big deal if you're planning on sticking with 1080p.
    Edited by Gremmoo at 01:09:30 02-03-2016
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