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  • Armoured_Bear 18 Mar 2016 17:33:26 28,683 posts
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    Sony Is Working On A ‘PS4.5’

    Sony is currently planning a new version of the PS4 with increased graphical power and games running at 4K resolution, developer sources tell Kotaku.

    We don’t know whether current PS4 owners will be able to upgrade or if they’ll have to buy an entirely new device to benefit from this power boost, but from what we hear, Sony has started briefing developers.

    Based on conversations with developers who have spoken with Sony, this ‘PS4.5’ will include an upgraded GPU both to support high-end 4K resolution for games and add more processing power that can enhance the games supported by PlayStation VR, the headset Sony will launch this fall. It’s unclear if ‘PS4.5’ is an official name or just a nickname that developers have been using. One developer jokingly called it the ‘PS4K’ while telling me about the device.

    In layman’s terms, 4K resolution is around twice the pixel size of 1080p, which is the current standard for games on PlayStation 4 and competing consoles. The current PS4 can output 4K photos and videos, but cannot support 4K resolutions for games. With this upgrade, it would. Besides resolution, developers would have an opportunity to push more effects and other graphical tweaks to make their games look better, thanks to the new GPU.

    A more powerful PS4 would also allow the machine to be more competitive with PCs in the world of virtual reality. With a higher-end GPU, the PS4 could more easily match up against the more expensive Oculus Rift and HTC Vive virtual reality headsets, which are designed to work with powerful PCs.

    When contacted yesterday about this report, Sony declined to comment. “We can’t comment on rumors or speculation,” a spokesperson said in an e-mail.

    The circle of people who knew about this upgraded PS4 was small until recently. I first heard about the device from one trusted source, then two. Kotaku’s Jason Schreier and Stephen Totilo were also able to independently verify the existence of these hardware plans with their own developer sources, although some of the details have been vague; one source told us that the device felt “exploratory” and that it may not even be released this year.

    We’ve also heard that at this week’s Game Developers Conference in San Francisco, Sony held meetings with developers about the hardware and how it would work. As we were chasing down this story, coincidentally, Kotaku UK EIC Keza MacDonald overheard some developers casually talking about the machine while on line at GDC. They mentioned the name ‘PS4.5’ and discussed its increased horsepower, mentioning both 4K resolution and PlayStation VR.

    Our sources aren’t sure when this upgraded machine will ship to consumers, nor how much it will cost. The PS4’s price dropped from $400 to $350 last fall, and one source indicated that this new ‘PS4.5’ could let Sony keep selling PS4 hardware at a higher profit margin for $400.

    There are still lots of big questions surrounding the device. Will Sony allow people to trade in their existing PS4s to buy the new machine? How will developers cope with releasing games on multiple types of hardware? Could some games only support PS4.5, as is the case with the New Nintendo 3DS? When this PS4 goes on sale, will Sony continue to sell old PS4 hardware at a lower price? How can Sony manage all this without fragmenting the market?

    Right now, we don’t have the answer to those questions.

    The PS4.5 may not be alone, either.

    I’ve heard whispers about an upgraded Xbox One for a while now, and Microsoft has been public about the possibility. At a press briefing earlier this month, Xbox head Phil Spencer hinted to journalists that his company has been exploring the possibility of evolving hardware. “We look at these other ecosystems out there like mobile, tablet and PC,” Spencer told the assembled press, as reported by Polygon, “and we see that they have a very continuous evolution cycle in hardware, whereas between console generations most of the evolution is making it cheaper and potentially making it smaller.”

    Spencer later walked back those comments while speaking on the Major Nelson podcast, pouring some water on the idea of a customizable, PC-like Xbox. “Am I going to break open my console and start upgrading individual pieces of my console? That’s not our plan,” he said. “There is something special about what happens with a console. You buy an appliance-like device; you plug it into your TV; it works when you plug it in. It’s not like I’m going to ship a screwdriver set with every console that comes out.”

    Plans are always changing, and some of the details we’ve heard are fuzzy, but one thing has become clear: Sony is exploring the possibility of releasing a more powerful console way before the PlayStation 5. With both Sony and Microsoft possibly entering new territory, and Nintendo’s NX on the way, this should be an exciting year for gaming hardware no matter what comes next.
  • Malek86 18 Mar 2016 17:48:47 9,979 posts
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    I don't especially trust these kind of rumors, but between Spencer's words and this, with the NX coming soon, and also considering these two consoles came out quite underpowered to begin with... I must admit that it's possible they want to cut the generation short, so to speak.
  • JoelStinty 18 Mar 2016 17:52:59 8,781 posts
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    Uncharted 4 remastered coming soon.
  • Malek86 18 Mar 2016 18:02:02 9,979 posts
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    Still, one thing that makes me think this update (even if true) is still a long way to go, is that most 4K TVs on the market don't even support more than 30hz on 4K.
  • Armoured_Bear 18 Mar 2016 18:03:09 28,683 posts
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    Malek86 wrote:
    Still, one thing that makes me think this update (even if true) is still a long way to go, is that most 4K TVs on the market don't even support more than 30hz on 4K.
    Sure about that?
    I really don't think that's true.
  • Malek86 18 Mar 2016 18:11:02 9,979 posts
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    @Armoured_Bear well, I mean the actually affordable ones.

    Of course things are probably going to change soon, but it will be a while before most people actually have one.

    Edited by Malek86 at 18:11:26 18-03-2016
  • MrTomFTW Best Moderator, 2016 18 Mar 2016 18:11:31 47,498 posts
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    I can't wait to buy The Last Of Us and Heavy Rain in 4k.
  • mAc6 18 Mar 2016 18:13:29 3,396 posts
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    Left 4k Dead too
  • JoelStinty 18 Mar 2016 18:14:00 8,781 posts
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    In all seriousness though, i really hope this is not true. I can't be arsed with buying updates every few years. I just want a settled eco system to play on for 6-8 years.

    Cross gen games were coming out as soon as late last year, this gen feels like it barely got started.
  • Technoishmatt 18 Mar 2016 18:23:16 3,990 posts
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    Half Life 4k confirmed.
  • oceanmotion 18 Mar 2016 18:29:50 17,358 posts
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    I doubt they'll get the performance gains in a 400 quid box until next year which would be about 4 years since this gen started. Last gen wasn't the norm, that went on way longer than usual. At least new consoles will likely be full BC and doubtful they'll drop current gen like Microsoft have alluded to supporting both. Pretty clear the consoles are underwhelming performance wise and unlikely to have many gains with x86 hardware in comparison to devs with the 360 and PS3 so 1080p/900p, kinda 30fps, all over the place 60fps, dynamic resolution etc. seems more likely with each passing year rather than getting better. 4K seems pointless but it's a big marketing jobby that will be more prominent. If VR games go anywhere, they'll need new consoles for better experiences. Sure, it might suck having to buy a new console or if games get gimped and lack attention from devs on old hardware, have to wait and see. Don't think it's the worst idea, it was always coming with x86 hardware making it simple to do this and new stuff like VR and 4K.

    Edited by oceanmotion at 18:30:52 18-03-2016
  • mAc6 18 Mar 2016 18:30:51 3,396 posts
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    This ones 4k the playahatas
  • Malek86 18 Mar 2016 18:33:05 9,979 posts
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    @JoelStinty last gen was weird though. Normally consoles have always been replaced after 5 years top.

    Not that I would want to buy another console so soon, myself. Not before 2019 at least, if possible.
  • the_milkybar_kid 18 Mar 2016 18:35:24 8,236 posts
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    Don't make them so underpowered to begin with. Even if this only a rumour, I expect Sony to follow up with something to retort the Microsoft announcement of upgrading the Xbone.

    Fuck this generation.
  • Malek86 18 Mar 2016 18:40:50 9,979 posts
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    @Bagpuss the days of loss-leading prices are over too, apparently. Which makes me a lot less willing to upgrade quickly.
  • Jmog 18 Mar 2016 18:52:12 470 posts
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    This is the PS5. It's a standalone console and it's coming 2018. Usually they brief developers two years before launch.

    This makes perfect sense. That's a normal console cycle. The appetite will be ripe for a new generation then. Especially due to the requirements of VR.
  • Stan546 18 Mar 2016 18:53:10 1,187 posts
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    I'm seriously not ready for a new console rumour yet, we haven't even seen an Elder Scrolls or GTA game this gen!

    Edit: Unless of course it gets me PSVR Elder Scrolls and GTA, then I'll bite.

    Edited by Stan546 at 18:54:02 18-03-2016
  • Godofporn 18 Mar 2016 19:01:20 6,825 posts
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    Rainbow 4k seige
  • Malek86 18 Mar 2016 19:07:46 9,979 posts
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    I'm calling it now

  • FrostPan 18 Mar 2016 19:08:07 1,626 posts
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    4K? C'mon now. I'd rather have 60FPS to be next big step.
  • Carlo 18 Mar 2016 19:10:09 21,179 posts
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    It won't be a ps4.5

    Its a ps5 released too early. Just like the xbox 1.1 (or whatever it's called).

    The hardware should last longer than this. This is bullshit!
  • MrFlay 18 Mar 2016 19:10:19 4,377 posts
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    Seems unlikely to say the least.
  • ibenam 18 Mar 2016 19:11:51 3,274 posts
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    WWE: Smackdown 4k published by 2k.
  • superdelphinus 18 Mar 2016 19:14:44 10,281 posts
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    I thought even domestic super computers struggle with 4K at the moment
  • JoelStinty 18 Mar 2016 19:22:42 8,781 posts
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    Yeah 5 years when you are young is your entire secondary school life, 5 years past your 30's is far lot quicker.

    It nothing new i guess, refresh rates on everything from tv's to cameras are normally shorter than 5 years too. It's too fast!

    Edited by JoelStinty at 19:23:11 18-03-2016
  • atothewest 18 Mar 2016 19:29:06 1,091 posts
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    @FrostPan you'll be waiting an ∞ long amount of time for that one.
  • HairyArse 18 Mar 2016 20:03:03 1,392 posts
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    Well at least all those thick fucks that bought 4K TVs will eventually have something to watch/play on them.
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