| I'm finding it hard to resolve the fact that Robbie Williams is manufactured because he doesn't write anything, but in this reality Gary Barlow is an artist. |
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elstoof 28,125 posts
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Registered 16 years agoClemFandango on Saturday:
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IIRC any song that is co-written by Adele means Adele wrote lyrics only. I highly doubt she wrote a sing note of music. -
monkman76 18,987 posts
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Registered 13 years agoClemFandango wrote:
So her debut means nothing? You're moving the goalposts.
monkman76 wrote:
Check the next two...
ClemFandango wrote:
No it doesn't. Wiki on 19:
That's funny a quick check online shows any song she is involved in is co-written by at least one other person.
I think you should go and take your 'punk rock' posters of adele of your wall....
Adele wrote most of the album's material solely, but did work with a select few writers and producers including Jim Abbiss, Eg White and Sacha Skarbek.
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monkman76 18,987 posts
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ClemFandango wrote:
She writes lyrics, not songs, think robbie williams for similar song writing talent.That's funny a quick check online shows any song she is involved in is co-written by at least one other person.
right, so she writes music. co-writes doesn't mean 'just the lyrics'. christ, how is this still going? -
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monkman76 18,987 posts
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Registered 13 years agoClemFandango wrote:
Yep, for sure no one cared about royalties or anything.
It means nobody really knows on the first album as they were all existing songs written at that Brit stage school after she got fingered behind the bike sheds by some guy who didn't like her.
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elstoof 28,125 posts
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Registered 16 years agoWhat the fuck are you even arguing about, it's bland MOR that appeals to a broad demographic. Who cares who writes it? KD Lang writes her own stuff, she's not exactly indie or punk either. -
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Registered 9 years agoFuck the lot of you, Shed Seven were okay. I've seen them three times, twice at a concert, once at a festival. They were better as a support act, than as a head liner and shouldn't play festivals. But other than that they had two decent singles. Also, I'd like to see Adele. I may be in the minority here, but I am old enough to like songs about opportunities lost, bitter disappointment, the struggle with weight loss, and being resentful for decades over a single act of impropriety that has scarred me. Coldplay are okay, I've seen them three times also, they also have two good singles. But shouldn't headline, be a support act or play festivals. Muse I have seen once at a festival, kind of reminded me of an English Dandy Warhols. Okay to listen to, but an repeated gimmick.
Someone earlier suggested Elbow as a headliner, they are good, very entertaining. I'd happily see them. Soundgarden were another good choice, I've seen them once, when they were doing Superunknown, brilliant of their time. Faith no More need to play more shows then make more albums. Get S Club back together, people like them. -
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Registered 13 years agoWho really cares who wrote what percentage of her songs? The outcome is still a load of dreary shite that inexplicable sells millions to menopausal women and other people of similar piss-poor taste. -
elstoof 28,125 posts
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Registered 16 years agoClemFandango wrote:
I don't think anyone is, just debating whether she's manufactured or not. I'm leaning towards not, personally, because on paper early in her career she's not the most obvious sell for international stardom.
elstoof wrote:
I'm not the one defending the Queen of punk and indie
What the fuck are you even arguing about, it's bland MOR that appeals to a broad demographic. Who cares who writes it? KD Lang writes her own stuff, she's not exactly indie or punk either..gif)
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Saul_Iscariot wrote:
I also like songs about that stuff, but you see, I don't like bland ballads. The meaning and content of a song is just one aspect of it. The melody, the structure, these things are more important.
Also, I'd like to see Adele. I may be in the minority here, but I am old enough to like songs about opportunities lost, bitter disappointment, the struggle with weight loss, and being resentful for decades over a single act of impropriety that has scarred me. -
elstoof wrote:
it's contextual, isn't it? there's nothing progressive about writing guitar music in 2016, yet that gets branded as 'indie' without a passing thought. independent from what? most of them are on majors or subsidiaries of, and almost all of them are derivative horseshit.
What the fuck are you even arguing about, it's bland MOR that appeals to a broad demographic. Who cares who writes it? KD Lang writes her own stuff, she's not exactly indie or punk either.
i don't like adele's music, but she's a pretty good standard bearer for what you can achieve if you side-step the majors. clemfandango is seeing primal scream in 2016 and acting like he's john peel...
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elstoof 28,125 posts
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Registered 16 years agoBlandness sells, you can easily block out the Adeles and the Didos when they're on in the background and the people who the message resonates with can enjoy it at the same time.
That's why the biggest market for this crap is newly cohabiting couples. -
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Registered 7 years agoHow much is it nowadays? It was only a pound or so in the seventies, I presume it's gone all commercial now. -
TheSaint 20,950 posts
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Registered 16 years agoSurely in the true glory days people didn't even buy tickets they just climbed the fence. -
wrinkly 3,721 posts
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wrinkly is so old that he actually founded Glastonbury - the town, not the festival.
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Registered 9 years ago@Physically_Insane That's fair enough. But I am selective in which Adele songs I like. Some I think are cool songs in their own right. Some of her stuff is terrible. When you call them bland, that is a descriptive term, and is subjective. Songs like Fire to the Rain I find very pleasant to listen. I do not know what it is I like about that particular ditty, but she sings it well. I sometimes try to think of other singers that could so a song well, or better, and that particular track I think works well for Adele. I'd have to go back a few decades to think of a singer that could do that song better, vocally.
Part of the problem may lie in the fact that I find many, many more of today's artists much more blander than her, so as a point of reference it is harder to judge. I don't recall who complained about Shed 7 being on a list of entertaining artists, they certainly had their place in time. But there were far better bands around at the time, so it is easy to dismiss them. If She left me on Friday was released today amongst the likes of Ed Sheeran, Put, Beiber and other dullards they'd be hailed as a return to entertaining music. -
Physically_Insane wrote:
Wow, you Tor him a new one. Tee hee.
wrinkly is so old that he actually founded Glastonbury - the town, not the festival.
Wait a minute.............. old...........
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