Following Nioh Page 7

  • Gregolution 23 Jan 2017 09:24:53 11,084 posts
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    A lot of comments saying things are over complicated, could it be that you're just not familiar with it?

    It's easy to slap that comment down after spending half an hour with a demo, but really it would take a few hours of sitting down with the game properly to decide if it's needlessly complicated or actually makes the game more interesting.

    I was overwhelmed at first, but after a while with the demo the stances seemed really natural and when browsing through where you could take the combo system in the skills menu, I was more excited than anything else.

    Could end up being an amazing system. We shall see I guess, but I'm not ready to declare it over complicated or perfect. Not possible to make those statements after a small demo IMHO
  • chrisno21 27 Jan 2017 11:42:32 2,488 posts
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    I've not hit the pre-order button yet on this.

    I think the biggest problem with the pacing is the lack of poise, basically getting hit half way through my attacks, which in Soulsborne only happens if the enemy is a poise-boss, meant I couldn't flurry my attacks and keep health.
  • Rivuzu 27 Jan 2017 12:35:12 18,424 posts
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    Probably because this isn't a Soulsborne title mate.

    That being said, there was no true "poise" system in DS3 either.

    Still unsure whether to grab this on release. I think I might, just because it's the closest I'm going to get to a true Ninja Gaiden in the vein of 1 and 2, rather than how shit 3 was.
  • chrisno21 27 Jan 2017 12:49:56 2,488 posts
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    If it was From, it'd be pre-ordered on name alone!

    It's just that most journalists are drawing the comparison, and the influence is too strong to ignore. I guess I'll roll another character in DS3 to get ready for the final DLC instead. Poise did seem broken in DS3 (and DS2 was a bit naff) but at least we had parry!
  • Rivuzu 27 Jan 2017 12:56:09 18,424 posts
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    From what I've played of the Nioh betas, which admittedly is only about 6-7 hours total (honestly couldn't be that bothered to dedicate longer when fuller things were available) it played much, much more in the style of DMC/Ninja Gaiden/etc than any Souls style game. It seemed to reward full on aggression over passive play.
  • Deleted user 27 January 2017 13:00:31
    Rivuzu wrote:
    From what I've played of the Nioh betas, which admittedly is only about 6-7 hours total (honestly couldn't be that bothered to dedicate longer when fuller things were available) it played much, much more in the style of DMC/Ninja Gaiden/etc than any Souls style game. It seemed to reward full on aggression over passive play.
    This pleases me. I've always been a very aggressive player. I love the rush down characters in Streetfighter et al and I still hold Ninja Gaiden Black as the pinacle of the hack and slash genre.

    I enjoy Souls but I don't enjoy constantly having to reign myself in. I take it this is going to stay a PS exclusive? I'll be keeping an eye on this, it may be the last game to convince me to get on again. Gravity Rush 2 and Yakuza 0 are two games I'm currently eyeing jealously.
  • IronGiant 1 Feb 2017 13:25:09 6,352 posts
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    Famitsu scored it 10/9/9/8 so hopefully thats a good sign!

    Ive too much of a game backlog but this and Yakuza 0 are definitely on my to buy list.
  • SomaticSense 1 Feb 2017 16:55:24 15,062 posts
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    Famitsu's scores mean nothing except that it suggests Tecmo have a decent marketing budget.

    I mean, we know it'll be a great game already, but Famitsu has zero credibility nowadays.
  • Decks 2 Feb 2017 08:34:21 31,013 posts
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    Recomennded
  • Ultrasoundwave 2 Feb 2017 08:51:56 6,439 posts
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    Can a mod remove the 'demo' part of the thread title?, my OCD hurts.....

    Reviews are dropping everywhere, currently 86 on Metacritic....

    Edited by Ultrasoundwave at 08:55:58 02-02-2017
  • chrisno21 2 Feb 2017 10:49:09 2,488 posts
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    Trophies for those that chase 'em.
  • quadfather 2 Feb 2017 15:49:07 39,069 posts
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    hm 50 quid.

    /glares at backlog
  • Switch-v85 2 Feb 2017 16:06:38 4,290 posts
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    I'm interested to hear the opinions of the EG Dark Souls community, got far too much in my backlog to dive in atm.
  • Deleted user 2 February 2017 16:24:55
    @quadfather £42 on Amazon ;)
  • quadfather 2 Feb 2017 16:26:29 39,069 posts
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    @Blackmarsh63

    Frankly, not what I wanted to hear :)
  • Rivuzu 2 Feb 2017 16:54:03 18,424 posts
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    Need to power through Yakuza 0 before this. Maybe middle of next month.
  • Deleted user 2 February 2017 18:47:29
    @quadfather Go On. You know u want it. It's 4K and everything. :)

    Edited by Blackmarsh63 at 18:48:11 02-02-2017
  • nickthegun 2 Feb 2017 19:11:00 87,711 posts
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    10 on 10 from the big man (who's also completely gay for soulsborne games).

    http://www.thejimquisition.com/nioh-review/
  • nickthegun 2 Feb 2017 19:12:00 87,711 posts
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    I think I'm going to break my 'fuck buying full price games' embargo for this...
  • Deleted user 2 February 2017 20:07:28
    Going to go for the Weebo trilogy of this, Gravity Rush and Yakuza 0 when my Ps4 arrives.

    Sounds right up my street.
  • Deleted user 2 February 2017 20:11:59
    nickthegun wrote:
    I think I'm going to break my 'fuck buying full price games' embargo for this...
    After being a bit meh with the beta I'm still compelled to pick this up after pretty much favourable reviews across the board. I have £45 in my psn account as well. God I'm so weak.
  • Gregolution 2 Feb 2017 20:33:43 11,084 posts
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    Gregolution wrote:
    Strange... I've easily fallen for it. I'm not looking at it and comparing everything to souls, maybe that's why. It doesn't have the amazing aesthetic lure of souls or even feel much like a giant RPG to sink my teeth into but I'm not looking at what it doesn't have, I'm focusing on what it does well. Combat.

    The combat is a HUGE improvement over all souls games. It almost feels like a new Japanese fighting arcade game in a way, and I can't stop myself dropping more 50p pieces into the machine.

    After 20 mins you find yourself stance switching mid fight and pulling off crazy combos while having to pay way more attention to both your and your opponents stamina. Then you look up the skill trees and realise how far you can take those combinations and the things you will end you doing 30-40 hours in.

    The combat is fabulous. Hats off to Team Ninja.
    I knew this was going to be great! I'm glad the reviewers back me up :p
  • Deleted user 3 February 2017 08:36:09
    When I played the demo ages ago, I found the movement slow. Has that been improved? Is it faster, fluid, smooth? I mean, can you proper dodge etc
  • chrisno21 3 Feb 2017 09:12:18 2,488 posts
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    nickthegun wrote:
    10 on 10 from the big man (who's also completely gay for soulsborne games).

    http://www.thejimquisition.com/nioh-review/
    I read that this morning and I'm slipping into the buy it now camp.
  • Deleted user 3 February 2017 09:27:49
    I should be all over this. I mean Team Ninja are brilliant and Ninja Gaiden is my favourite Xbox game and souls is just heavenly....Mix the two up and it should be my dream game.

    Mmmmmm
  • SomaticSense 3 Feb 2017 10:09:37 15,062 posts
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    If you weren't taken with the demos, then why would the reviews convince you otherwise?

    You've played it yourself. Surely the opinion you yourself formed is more relevent to you than someone else's. The demos were expansive too and got similarly high praise, so it's not like they weren't representative of the full game.

    It's the new shiny isn't it? I've been there :)
  • quadfather 3 Feb 2017 10:15:16 39,069 posts
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    Stop being logical. That never works.

    I was doing alright until I read this bit -

    "The tough-but-fair, meticulous structuring of Dark Souls has been married to the dungeon crawling acquisition of treasure that compels so many Diablo fans. The way in which Nioh blends these two elements together so successfully, unified with a unique aesthetic and keenly polished gameplay, ensures this production is truly greater than the sum of its parts, far more than a mere copycat of successful predecessors."

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