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  • wuntyate 1 May 2020 18:58:54 14,500 posts
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    Yeah i soloed remnant. Good fun.
  • chrisno21 1 May 2020 19:02:19 2,286 posts
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    Ah, good to know!
  • wuntyate 1 May 2020 19:58:26 14,500 posts
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    Although it does look good fun co op mind you.
  • Duffking 5 May 2020 22:07:36 16,582 posts
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    Enjoying this so far, done the first 2 main missions. Seems noticeably easier than the first game so far, bar the bosses having some pretty big health pools.

    Question about the Ki bars though. Not quite following the way that it depletes on enemies, it seems the bar both depletes and shortens? For regular enemies I can do grapple attacks when it's empty, am I supposed to be able to do that on bosses? Second one didn't really seem to care.
  • chrisno21 5 May 2020 22:25:28 2,286 posts
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    Can't grapple bosses, as they tend to use zero Ki as an excuse to pop the dark zone. Maybe the boss in level one can be grappled but that's it.
  • nickthegun 5 May 2020 22:34:52 81,290 posts
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    If you break a bosses Ki it will go prone or you can just whale on It. Yokai bosses canít be grappled but they (generally) canít tank hits if you deplete the full bar, so you can pound them without retaliation.

    They will usually then shift realms which regenerates it.

    Edited by nickthegun at 22:35:42 05-05-2020
  • Duffking 5 May 2020 23:11:29 16,582 posts
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    Ah, I see. I guess I should use these R2 square/triangle moves maybe while they're down or something as I've not really touched them yet.
  • Duffking 10 May 2020 18:57:55 16,582 posts
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    Just did the snake boss on my second try, pretty much using my first run on bosses to scope them out. That said, fuck me did that thing have a lot of health. And they nerfed it to have less? Christ.
  • sid92 16 May 2020 13:46:41 3,539 posts
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    Anyone done the new quests yet? Theyíre brilliant for farming divines and smithing texts.

    Multi boss fights but staged so you generally donít have to fight multiple at the same time.

    Izuna Guardian spirit is back as well.
  • chrisno21 16 May 2020 16:29:39 2,286 posts
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    Yeah, the one against all he trainers is great for gear drops.
  • sid92 16 May 2020 18:03:34 3,539 posts
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    chrisno21 wrote:
    Yeah, the one against all he trainers is great for gear drops.
    Yeah that one is brilliant.
  • wuntyate 17 May 2020 14:23:14 14,500 posts
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    Took me 2 hours to do that wave of terror one. Those bosses aren't even too bad, i just kept fucking up. I did get a smithing text during it but not sure what it was yet. Done all the new missions now, good fun.

    Expeditions are new aren't they? Not sure what the point of them is?
  • chrisno21 18 May 2020 23:27:07 2,286 posts
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    Expedition is their answer to jolly co-op for when you and a mate wanna go.demon hunting. Not tried it myself but it sounded interesting, with a shared life pool.
  • Bichii 21 May 2020 21:12:36 2,869 posts
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    Yeah I tried starting the game with a friend today and the shared pool is pretty shit. Not because you die but if you run out you are kicked out of the level and have to start again. Seems far harder than playing it solo. Especially with most dick head last boss being pretty tricky. In solo you just run back from the shrine and try again, in this it's "no, fuck you, go and play the whole level again." It's put me off a bit as the plan was to play through the whole game together.
  • nickthegun 21 May 2020 22:05:09 81,290 posts
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    Check ur boons. This new update gives you a free armour set. Seems a bit shit but looks cool.
  • Bichii 22 May 2020 18:38:14 2,869 posts
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    About half way through the second area with a new character. God the story is so bad/pointless. I think I'll just skip all the cutscenes soon like I ended up doing in the original. Is it a bad idea to do what I'm doing which is leveling dex and magic in tandem?

    I definitely swear far more playing this than any from software game. The way it's kinda easy most of the time but as soon as you press the wrong button or make some other minor mistake you are dead.

    Not a huge fan of the new spider skill tree but I guess the last one was as bad in trying to work out which skills you wanted to unlock.

    Even though I'm using magic as much as I can I seem to be getting hardly any magic points Vs ninjitsu points. Is that normal?

    Snake boss definitely seemed easier now so I'm not sure how much of a health cut it got in the patch.

    Oh a my god the menus and different stuff that pops up every few minutes. I still have no clue about soul cores, sure I use them but mixing them together? Or what does what I've no clue. And does it mix with your Guardian? And does your guardian choice affect your shift form? No idea what's going on.
  • Mr_Sleep 22 May 2020 19:00:58 23,184 posts
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    The best thing for upping magic skill points is elemental weapons. Fire is good early on.
  • Bichii 22 May 2020 19:11:00 2,869 posts
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    So far I've unlocked lightening, purifying, iron skin and lightening storm in magic. Next up is sloth :). If sloth is like it was in one I'm about to unlock easy mode. My current guardian gives 20% lightening buff.
  • nickthegun 22 May 2020 20:41:30 81,290 posts
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    Itís not that useful in this, tbh. I found applying lightning better generally and other spells better for bosses.

    Annoyingly, though, I think most people still roll with it out of habit as pretty much every revenant hits you with it as soon as you pop them.
  • wuntyate 22 May 2020 20:45:23 14,500 posts
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    I use lightning with sloth and my flying bolt yokai move. They practically stop moving.
  • nickthegun 22 May 2020 20:51:45 81,290 posts
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    Itís probably because Iím a lot better at it this time around [drax.gif].

    I properly used it as a crutch in the first game and really struggled without it. In this one I found the buffs/de-buffs a lot more useful and rarely felt I needed it (and it seemed a lot worse).
  • wuntyate 22 May 2020 20:55:28 14,500 posts
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    I need it. Oh god I need it.
  • nickthegun 22 May 2020 21:12:46 81,290 posts
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    I donít know if I was tripping but it felt like a lot of enemies are basically immune to it so I stopped bothering.

    And I unlocked it relatively late in the day as I wasnít using much magic and I thinks itís like a third tier spell this time.

    Iíve fired it up these last few days to do the new missions, so I really should do a magic build.

    Edited by nickthegun at 21:13:35 22-05-2020
  • Bichii 22 May 2020 21:43:09 2,869 posts
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    Yeah you need to invest in a few different spells to unlock sloth. How's poison? Think I can unlock poison kuni? soon maybe.
  • Bichii 27 May 2020 11:01:23 2,869 posts
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    I haven't experimented with it but it seems like in this game most enemies don't give a shit if you're smashing them mid combo. They are like "nope fuck your combo I'm going to start my own and as your mid combo you can't do anything about it"??

    Maybe high stance they don't? So often I lose half my life bar because I'm on say the third hit in a four combo and the enemy just starts up up their own. Doesn't help all your combos are a shower of effects and sparks flying everywhere that it's tricky to even see if they want to suddenly pop off their own.

    At the end of act 3, enjoying it very much except for the occasional rage from things like the combo thing. Plus I'm playing ninja so although I've devastating on offense I die in two hits to half the enemies on each level.
  • sid92 27 May 2020 16:15:31 3,539 posts
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    The only time most enemies canít combo through your attacks is when you have broken their Ki.

    Yokai enemies do it all the time, those ones with the Kusarigama are the worst for it.
  • Bichii 27 May 2020 17:16:08 2,869 posts
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    Okay cool, I guess just save the fancy combos for when they are out of ki but then it's always better to get the triangle stab in. So never combo then.
  • chrisno21 27 May 2020 18:18:15 2,286 posts
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    Or get your toughness (poise) up to A and do the same.
  • Bichii 27 May 2020 18:24:16 2,869 posts
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    Ahhhhh toughness is poise is it!? I'm currently 69/C.
  • Switch024 29 May 2020 15:22:35 3,616 posts
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    Worth playing through the DLC before getting Nioh 2? I bought the first game with the season pass but never went back to it. Tempted to dive straight into 2.
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