Following RetroPie - HD Retro gaming on a Raspberry Pi for ~£50! Page 2

  • Your-Mother 1 Jul 2017 19:40:55 8,172 posts
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    Yeah, Lakka's made huge strides over the past few months. Retropie used to be superior (at least for Raspberry Pi) due to things like wifi, samba sharing and better rom scanning out of the box (plus a more customizable interface), but Lakka's made huge UX leaps since then. Retropie is probably still slightly more user friendly for those who aren't hugely technically challenged, but Lakka doesn't require you to arse around in command line for basic functionality anymore.

    You'll also get more up to date cores with Lakka, though you can still pull/compile them with Retropie, they're just more hidden away. The trade off is in tech support - you're much more likely to get decent RPi specific info from Retropie's forums.

    FWIW, EmulationStation is only abandoned by the original devs. Continuing development is pretty active on the Retropie forums.

    Personally, if you have the SD cards to spare, I'd try them both and then settle on what feels best to you, as it really boils down to UX differences at this stage.
  • Deleted user 2 July 2017 22:39:58
    retropie doesn't require you to go into command line for "basic functionality", and you can build the latest cores with retropie, which are also compiled with better optimisations than lakka.
  • MrFlay 2 Jul 2017 22:52:01 4,670 posts
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    @dankcushions

    Have you used Lakka recently? It doesn't require use of the command line for basic functionality and Lakka is the official distro of RetroArch.

    Edited by MrFlay at 22:54:21 02-07-2017
  • Deleted user 2 July 2017 22:55:12
    i'm not saying anything about lakka, i'm contesting that retropie needs you to go into the command line for basic functionality

    Edited by dankcushions at 23:14:31 02-07-2017
  • Your-Mother 2 Jul 2017 23:44:25 8,172 posts
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    Methinks you should re-read my post. I was talking about Lakka when I said that, not Retropie - earlier versions required you to configure stuff like networking and Bluetooth from the command line. Heck, it's even still in the official documentation.
  • Deleted user 3 July 2017 13:02:56
    right, yes! sorry- managed to make two non-points that were both covered in your original post :)
  • grounded_dreams 3 Jul 2017 20:07:47 107 posts
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    Seeing if anyone can help with an issue I have atm. I have an old Raspberry Pi Model B I think (its the one from Kano which I got in 2014), with RetroPi v4.2 (Pi 0/1).

    I have all my Roms in there console directories on a USB stick, which run fine. But some games don't play or I've decided I didn't want them anymore and deleted them off the USB stick (via my Mac). Booted the Pi back up and inputted the USB stick and the deleted games which are not on the stick anymore are still listed and are playable.
    I then unplugged the stick and all the games are still running. I can't work out where the games are now stored, looked on the SD card and nothing, just the OS. Are they somewhere on the Pi itself?

    Also, I've looked into overclocking the hardware as its old and underpowered, not sure which one I should be choosing, if this will actually give me any performance boost anyway. Tried medium and couldn't really notice any difference when playing a few games which run quite slowly (tbh I can't tell if it changes the settings, I have after adjusting but when going back into this option it just asks me to choose one again - not what it currently set to). Am I safe to try higher, don't want to kill the device or anything.

    Overclocking option screen

    Edited by grounded_dreams at 20:08:38 03-07-2017
  • Deleted user 4 July 2017 17:49:18
    Gonetz (the author of the GLideN64 graphics plugin that Retropie uses for most N64 games), is attempting to finally vanquish one of the 'white whales' of N64 emulation - Rogue Squadron high level emulation.

    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/star-wars-rogue-squadron-high-level-emulation#/

    This is the only hope for an rasberry pi/mobile system running this game. Please consider donating! Besides this goal, it's also a great way of encouraging progress on the best "high-level" N64 graphics emulator :)
  • Deleted user 4 July 2017 17:54:38
    grounded_dreams wrote:
    Seeing if anyone can help with an issue I have atm. I have an old Raspberry Pi Model B I think (its the one from Kano which I got in 2014), with RetroPi v4.2 (Pi 0/1).

    I have all my Roms in there console directories on a USB stick, which run fine. But some games don't play or I've decided I didn't want them anymore and deleted them off the USB stick (via my Mac). Booted the Pi back up and inputted the USB stick and the deleted games which are not on the stick anymore are still listed and are playable.
    I then unplugged the stick and all the games are still running. I can't work out where the games are now stored, looked on the SD card and nothing, just the OS. Are they somewhere on the Pi itself?
    yeah, by default the USB stick is only used to transfer games to the pi. if you want to delete a game you've transferred, you can do this via the interface: highlight game > select button > edit metadata > delete.

    BTW, if you want to run games directly from the stick: https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/wiki/Running-ROMs-from-a-USB-drive

    Also, I've looked into overclocking the hardware as its old and underpowered, not sure which one I should be choosing, if this will actually give me any performance boost anyway. Tried medium and couldn't really notice any difference when playing a few games which run quite slowly (tbh I can't tell if it changes the settings, I have after adjusting but when going back into this option it just asks me to choose one again - not what it currently set to). Am I safe to try higher, don't want to kill the device or anything.

    Overclocking option screen
    no experience with this, but /boot/config.txt is where the current overclocking settings are stored, if that helps.
  • grounded_dreams 4 Jul 2017 19:15:51 107 posts
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    Excellent thanks for the response, very useful :)
  • Globbits 6 Jul 2017 12:41:27 190 posts
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    @pelican_ I wouldn't say it was exactly plug and play, but I was complete noob when I set mine up and it was pretty straightforward. I did, however, download a pre-made image so I didn't really have to bother with transferring over any roms and took out some of the other grunt work. I found some decent How to videos on YouTube by ETAPrime and DrewTalks which helped me get Retropie loaded and then make a few tweaks to get everything working nicely (although that was for Famicom and MSX stuff so you may not need to bother with that)
  • Rusty_M 6 Jul 2017 12:45:31 7,172 posts
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    pelican_ wrote:
    So for a noob. Is Retropie and Pi a worthwhile purchase?

    I have zero experience in Linux. And would just like to basically plug and play.
    The retro pie website will tell you almost everything you need to get started. Setup isn't too hard
  • Psiloc 6 Jul 2017 15:33:46 6,366 posts
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    It gets tricky with arcade games. If you're just interested in console, it's a piece of piss and I wouldn't bother with a pre-made image. You don't need to do anything with Linux unless you want to.
  • Globbits 6 Jul 2017 17:54:30 190 posts
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    @pelican_ In fairness Psiloc has a point. I wrote a copy of Rey's image and because of the size (~120GB) it took a lot longer to write it all to the SD card than it would've done if I just transferred over some specific roms I wanted to play. The other one I have set up is Nacho's, which fits on a 64GB card
  • Globbits 6 Jul 2017 22:52:30 190 posts
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    @pelican_ The basic Retropie image (no roms included, so you'll have to load your own) is available here: https://retropie.org.uk/download/

    I expect it would be frowned upon to post direct links to images with roms included so let's just say for the other ones I either took links from Youtube videos or Googled "Retropie image" and ended up looking at a website that sounds like it might be for people with an affinity for video game cabinets and mohawks
  • Rusty_M 6 Jul 2017 23:43:02 7,172 posts
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    Ah, I use a place that sounds like a paradise for Rod Hull's bird.
  • consignia 7 Jul 2017 00:02:08 1,483 posts
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    Rusty_M wrote:
    Ah, I use a place that sounds like a paradise for Rod Hull's bird.
    Yeah, grotbagsheaven.org is amazing.
  • Globbits 7 Jul 2017 00:09:52 190 posts
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    @Rusty_M Yup, definitely found there useful when looking for a specific game
  • Deleted user 7 July 2017 02:25:39
    consignia wrote:
    Rusty_M wrote:
    Ah, I use a place that sounds like a paradise for Rod Hull's bird.
    Yeah, grotbagsheaven.org is amazing.
    Too soon man, too soon*

    *not too soon
  • Rusty_M 7 Jul 2017 17:39:57 7,172 posts
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    Spectral wrote:
    consignia wrote:
    Rusty_M wrote:
    Ah, I use a place that sounds like a paradise for Rod Hull's bird.
    Yeah, grotbagsheaven.org is amazing.
    Too soon man, too soon*

    *not too soon
    Well that's the guiltiest laugh I've had in a while.
  • MrFlay 7 Jul 2017 21:03:11 4,670 posts
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    The No-Intro rom-packs are great. RetroArch scans the roms and checks them against a database.
  • zippiz 9 Jul 2017 22:25:19 6 posts
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    I love my Retropie, and now it also looks great! =)



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-P6FOlKBK_Y
  • Deleted user 16 July 2017 12:54:26
    Which theme are you using folks? I've just update my setup and decided to try out some of the custom ones. I love the NES Mini one but it's not quite complete yet (some systems are missing that I use), but the Comic Book theme is a real jaw dropper. There's a guide too for a very nice accompanying video splash screen for boot up which really polishes it off imho. Very easy to do. Plus I added some launch images too so you don't have to look at the grey box when selecting a game. Amazing how far this thing has come on.
  • Deleted user 19 July 2017 15:24:03
    have you updated the nes mini theme? if you update it and emulationstation you access to a bunch more systems and the new 'carousel' mode (posted a video on the previous page).

    RE: pre-made images - i see the appeal, but be wary that there are more than a few widespread examples of them containing devious scripts and malware type things. also, once you get a pre-made image* you can expect ZERO support from the retropie community as these images have been customized, are generally set up poorly, so are essentially impossible to support.

    * other than the retropie official one, of course.
  • MrTomFTW Moderator 19 Jul 2017 15:39:51 47,501 posts
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    Here's a question for you lovely experts.

    I've got a Pi 3, and have installed Retropie AND Raspbian. I've also set up a network share on my Pi so I can see my \home\ folder and it's contents. How do I make it so I can copy files across from my Windows PC to Raspbian? It prompts me to enter my username and password when connecting to the Pi from my Windows PC, and it seemingly accepts the Pi admin details I've set... But I still don't have write permissions to any of the locations.

    I assume there's something I have to type into the command line. Just no idea what :)
  • Rusty_M 19 Jul 2017 15:51:06 7,172 posts
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    @MrTomFTW retropie and raspbian? I just used the complete installer for retropie and was able to browse to //retropie/ using pi as the username and raspberry as the password as is default
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