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  • simpleexplodingmaybe 11 Jan 2019 11:59:17 9,474 posts
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    Salaman wrote:
    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    I misread that post thinking it was written by Limmy. I was really impressed.
    I thought Lemmy, which confused me more.
    I also read Lemmy first.

    I assume as a crew member of spaceship Hawkwind that he's in favour of pandimensional interstellar union based on expanded consciousness and free love.
  • Dougs 11 Jan 2019 12:04:43 88,282 posts
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    In case not seen.

    https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1083498634904256516
  • KnuttinAtoll 11 Jan 2019 12:10:23 6,864 posts
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    Dougs wrote:
    In case not seen.

    https://twitter.com/bbcquestiontime/status/1083498634904256516
    Wow. The first 100% sensible and accurate comment provided by a QT audience member I've seen.
  • senso-ji 11 Jan 2019 12:21:53 9,144 posts
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    Yep, that's a brutal but completely honest description of the situation May and her Brexit backbenchers have created.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 11 Jan 2019 12:23:24 14,263 posts
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    imamazed wrote:
    simpleexplodingmaybe wrote:
    nickthegun wrote:
    You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
    I’m slightly split on Owen Jones as I think his heart is in the right place and he’s an important voice for the left, but he’s also one of those on the left that’s so deep into Corbyn he’s become an apologist for Brexit and antisemetism.
    His analytical eye is still generally quite sharp so long as the party political aspect is kept out of view.
    That's the problem these days though - he almost always drags the party political aspect kicking and screaming into view. The moral gymnastics he does to spin any current issue to favour the Labour Party is not only tiresome in and of itself, but also invalidates his credibility more generally.

    And I say that as a Labour supporter
    Exactly. And Corbyn specifically, not just Labour, which can lead to even greater gymnastics when it's an issue that would seemingly be one Labour would be on one side of, but Corbyn is on the other.
  • KnuttinAtoll 11 Jan 2019 21:48:29 6,864 posts
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    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/former-brexit-minister-david-davis-we-should-not-be-afraid-of-no-deal-a-1247602.html

    Deluded, ignorant, arrogant, dishonest, and with a bit of a nasty streak.

    Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
  • thelzdking 11 Jan 2019 23:04:59 9,048 posts
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    KnuttinAtoll wrote:
    http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/former-brexit-minister-david-davis-we-should-not-be-afraid-of-no-deal-a-1247602.html

    Deluded, ignorant, arrogant, dishonest, and with a bit of a nasty streak.

    Don't let the door hit you on your way out.
    He's a complete chancer. Imagine if he had to do something that required practical skill, he'd say "yeah mate, I can fix your car" and he'd fucking wreck it and just shrug his shoulders and fuck off to con the next mug he came across.
  • Ror 11 Jan 2019 23:27:36 18,265 posts
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    And then you'd go after him with the tyre iron, right?

    Right?
  • Zyrr 12 Jan 2019 00:08:31 332 posts
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    To be fair, David Davis has always wanted a no deal. It's the only way that guarantees his ex-bosses at Tate & Lyle get to circumnavigate the EU's sugar import tariffs.

    He's been lobbying on their behalf against EU regulations for years. Since he left his position as a chief exec at T&L and became an MP, coincidentally enough.

    It's not just him with ties to them, either. Here's a link to a quick run down of the folks with 'big sugar' interests:

    https://thepinprick.com/2017/12/11/daydream-belizers-brexit-big-sugar-and-the-strange-case-of-andy-wigmore/amp/

    Edit: I can't spell 'David'

    Edited by Zyrr at 00:09:19 12-01-2019
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 12 Jan 2019 00:11:10 9,474 posts
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    @You-can-call-me-kal "If we said it it's good if they said it it's bad, even if it's the same thing we're both saying..."

    Also see, going on TV to argue one point then the exact opposite on twitter when people point out that Corbyn is against whatever the TV position was.

    But always with equal passion and unshakeable certainty whatever the argument.

    I like him but he's doing his credibility no favours.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 12 Jan 2019 00:13:19 9,474 posts
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    Yeah, the reason David Davis thought it would be the easiest negotiations ever is that he thought out is out and he's only gone because it turns out even a hard out is quite complicated.
  • fontgeeksogood 12 Jan 2019 08:22:16 5,001 posts
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    Chris Grayling: give terrorists what they want!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46847169
  • Zyrr 12 Jan 2019 08:28:49 332 posts
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    Starting to see a pattern here.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/cliodiaspora/status/1083760433780195330

    https://mobile.twitter.com/J_amesp/status/1083799414597214208
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 12 Jan 2019 08:47:03 9,474 posts
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    fontgeeksogood wrote:
    Chris Grayling: give terrorists what they want!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46847169


    Edited by simpleexplodingmaybe at 08:47:17 12-01-2019
  • KnuttinAtoll 12 Jan 2019 08:59:42 6,864 posts
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    Maybe it's all as simple as this:

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-britain-eu-donors-exclusive/exclusive-leading-brexit-donors-say-britain-will-reverse-decision-to-leave-eu-idUKKCN1P50UU

    Why making money the honest way if you can just game the currency by threatening, and later cancelling Brexit?

    It does require a "certain type" of population to follow like lemmings but UK got that covered.

    Realise this is a bit conspiracy nut-esque but at least it would explain some of this craziness.

    Edited by KnuttinAtoll at 09:00:40 12-01-2019
  • Not-a-reviewer 12 Jan 2019 09:07:18 5,566 posts
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    For a lot of people it’s the only time they’ve won something, I’d imagine they’d be pretty precious about it.
  • KnuttinAtoll 12 Jan 2019 10:19:15 6,864 posts
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    I meant more craziness on the 'professionals' side such as politicians and certain business people, i.e. the ones who ought to know (and i think they mostly do apart from the odd fundamentalist) better but personal gains always trump considering the greater good it seems.

    As for some of the regular folk they seem happy with emotional gains as you say.
  • Jambajuice 12 Jan 2019 12:04:51 192 posts
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    It is pretty impressive how seamlessly he went from “oh no we might remain I’m so disappointed” to “better start betting on the economy to recover instead of betting on it to fail” in that article - it’s so blatant and just gets shrugged off.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 12 Jan 2019 13:23:03 14,263 posts
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    Yay.

    https://twitter.com/skynewsbreak/status/1084064598360317954?s=21
  • You-can-call-me-kal 12 Jan 2019 13:29:56 14,263 posts
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    Sadly this racist won’t cunt off.

    https://www.ft.com/content/03bb726a-157d-11e9-a581-4ff78404524e
  • RyanDS 12 Jan 2019 13:51:46 12,641 posts
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1083886169216176128?s=19

    Not dodgy at all
  • You-can-call-me-kal 12 Jan 2019 13:57:01 14,263 posts
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    Unreal.
  • Nexus_6 12 Jan 2019 14:35:45 4,172 posts
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    Astonishing.
  • Armoured_Bear 12 Jan 2019 14:40:01 25,911 posts
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    RyanDS wrote:
    https://mobile.twitter.com/mikegalsworthy/status/1083886169216176128?s=19

    Not dodgy at all
    And it’s the SNP holding them to account, not the actual opposition.
  • GoatApocalypse 12 Jan 2019 14:41:41 5,329 posts
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    https://twitter.com/Survation/status/1083869040186179584?s=19

    Why isn't Remain 20+ points ahead?
  • GoatApocalypse 12 Jan 2019 14:50:52 5,329 posts
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    That's obviously said with my tongue in my cheek, but there's a very serious question at the heart of it.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 12 Jan 2019 14:55:16 14,263 posts
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    Polls are meaningless tho.
  • You-can-call-me-kal 12 Jan 2019 14:58:16 14,263 posts
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    Christ they’re thick...

    https://twitter.com/bbcdaniels/status/1084074093262057472?s=21
  • GoatApocalypse 12 Jan 2019 15:32:21 5,329 posts
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    What do you disagree with on that list?
  • You-can-call-me-kal 12 Jan 2019 15:38:25 14,263 posts
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    It’s a list of things they “stand for”...
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