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  • sport 26 Sep 2020 10:12:39 16,342 posts
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    Nice to know my eligibility to do anything here is safely in the hands of Cummings and Co. :-/
  • Dgzter 26 Sep 2020 11:37:29 3,348 posts
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    In slightly more amusing, non-Brexity EU news (or rather history, I guess), I thought this was excellent: https://twitter.com/page_eco/status/1309490061243604993?s=20

    Edited by Dgzter at 11:38:32 26-09-2020
  • Darth_Flibble 26 Sep 2020 14:53:31 4,500 posts
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    Swissexit?

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/25/swiss-vote-whether-end-free-movement-deal-with-eu

    However, polls forecast the SVP will not be successful, with one this week finding 63% of respondents opposed the party’s proposal – suggesting voters want stability at a time of economic uncertainty amid the coronavirus pandemic.
    trouble is polls are unreliable as shown by drumpf in 2016 and also brexit
  • Psychotext 27 Sep 2020 01:04:37 67,580 posts
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    Darth_Flibble wrote:
    trouble is polls are unreliable as shown by drumpf in 2016 and also brexit
    Brexit and Trump were within the margins of error. 63% is not.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 27 Sep 2020 01:12:33 14,876 posts
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    IMO wrote:

    Instead they have to access the Home Office’s online database each time they need to produce evidence of eligibility.
    What a pisstake. No reason whatsoever for such a process unless it's deliberately to make it as difficult as possible to interact with.
    That’s exactly what its for, Hostile Environment 2.0
  • Technoishmatt 27 Sep 2020 09:21:06 4,624 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Darth_Flibble wrote:
    trouble is polls are unreliable as shown by drumpf in 2016 and also brexit
    Brexit and Trump were within the margins of error. 63% is not.
    Yeah, this is why society will end, people ignorant about statistics.
  • simpleexplodingmaybe 27 Sep 2020 09:25:39 14,876 posts
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    Polls are generally broadly correct too. Even during the ‘crisis’ of them being constantly wrong they largely weren’t when taken as a whole.
  • Armoured_Bear 27 Sep 2020 09:49:31 29,126 posts
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    I’ll be very relieved to see the polls being correct , there’s no reason at all to expect any last minute swing. I’ll be very happy with the Swiss in not being fooled by the SVP scumbags
  • Darth_Flibble 27 Sep 2020 09:59:19 4,500 posts
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    I'm sure polls for brexit and us election were not as close in 2015 (more in favour of remain and Clinton) - quick google search was useless
  • Rogueywon 27 Sep 2020 10:05:22 9,484 posts
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    @Darth_Flibble In the final 30 days of the EU Referendum, more polls showed Leave ahead than Remain (and a good number showed a dead heat). What happened was that the media had decided, largely arbitrarily, that a small circle of pollsters who used telephone-only surveys were the "gold standard" and focussed on what they were saying rather than polling as a whole. The phone-only pollsters were underestimating the Leave vote because of an over-reliance on landlines (which Leave voters were less likely to have).

    In the US election, the national-level polls were broadly correct - Clinton's eventual popular vote lead fell within the bounds that the polls had shown. State polls, however, were badly off - by 10-15 points in some cases. Pollsters were used to polling the traditional battlegrounds carefully - Florida, Iowa, Ohio etc - but hadn't picked up that different states were in play this time. The polling in the rust-belt was a shitshow, largely because pollsters didn't actually have up to date demographic info. So, for instance, they were weighting their samples on the basis of Pennsylvania having the same proportion of black voters as the US as a whole. It doesn't (not even close).
  • Armoured_Bear 27 Sep 2020 22:44:01 29,126 posts
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    Armoured_Bear wrote:
    I’ll be very relieved to see the polls being correct , there’s no reason at all to expect any last minute swing. I’ll be very happy with the Swiss in not being fooled by the SVP scumbags
    Awesome result, very happy with such a clear rejection of the scumbag SVP's xenophobic bullshit.
  • Dougs 1 Oct 2020 09:53:23 95,992 posts
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    European Commission are starting legal proceedings against the UK for breach of the withdrawal agreement.
  • nickthegun 1 Oct 2020 10:02:05 83,331 posts
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    They will be surprised when they send the bailiffs round
  • JamboWayOh 1 Oct 2020 10:14:56 21,095 posts
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    Tbf the government will probably be hiding behind the sofa when the bailiffs come round.
  • DFawkes 1 Oct 2020 10:29:49 32,649 posts
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    I just don't get what the UK Government were thinking. That you can change an agreement between 2 parties by 1 of the 2 parties changing it? That'd be great for all of us if it were true.

    Phone bill? None of those, we can change our copies to say £ZERO per month. Credit cards? Not paying those anymore, we can changed our copies of the credit agreement. Doesn't matter if those are agreements are between us and those companies, we set the rules in our homes and our rules say our altered copies are LAW.

    I know that's an over-simplistic interpretation but I honestly can't see how it's that far different.
  • askew 1 Oct 2020 10:39:35 21,965 posts
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    It's ok if you change your phone contract in a specific and limited way.
  • Psychotext 1 Oct 2020 11:54:16 67,580 posts
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    I'm looking forward to my delicious plate of sovereignty.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-30/brexit-prompts-7-500-finance-jobs-1-6-trillion-to-leave-u-k
  • RobAnybody 5 Oct 2020 10:57:45 2,330 posts
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    While browsing reddit I stumbled upon this very sobering post:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/brexit/comments/j1oug4/could_a_no_deal_brexit_be_good_for_britain_was_it/g716o6f/

    There's nothing in it that we don't already know but seeing it all together in one clear post is extremely depressing.

    The UK is headed for an enormous amount of hardship in the years ahead. Buckle up .....

    Edited by RobAnybody at 10:58:08 05-10-2020
  • RobAnybody 5 Oct 2020 11:16:40 2,330 posts
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    And another good read in a blog post "The theatricals of 'deal or no deal' are a distraction"

    https://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2020/10/the-theatricals-of-deal-or-no-deal-are.html

    here's an excerpt:

    "There is a telling line in Sam Byers’ post-Brexit satirical novel, Perfidious Albion: “Brexit was over, but the energy it accumulated had to be retained. Fears needed to be redirected. Hatred had to pivot” (2018, p.119). It seems prophetic in the light of Farage’s new hobby of hanging about grubbily on beaches looking for migrants to denounce. And it conjures up a country – of which the McVey story provides a tiny glimpse – in which the Brexit divide segues into a wider assault upon immigrants and intellectuals, on ‘woke’ culture in schools and universities, on ‘unelected judges’, on civil service neutrality, and on the rule of law (the latter link is to the first of a three-part blog by David Allen Green, so check the follow-on posts for the full argument)."

    and the final paragraph:

    "So as the uncertainty over whether or not there will be a deal continues – and it will for a little while yet – and, for that matter, when that uncertainty ends, it’s important to see it for what it is. Not without any significance, certainly, but a distraction from what is much more significant: the damage, decay and danger of Brexit itself. That drama - of lies told, promises broken, and a country on the brink of calamity - is the etiology of what afflicts us, rather than the tedious theatrics and accompanying breathless predictions which are one of its symptoms."
  • nickthegun 5 Oct 2020 11:22:55 83,331 posts
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    I was chatting with my dad the other week and hes still convinced that BMW, VW and Mercedes hold enough sway to force an entire trading block to capitulate to our demands.

    Absolute fucking fantasy land.
  • DFawkes 5 Oct 2020 11:31:14 32,649 posts
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    Now come on, it's not like any of those companies are owned by companies based in EU member states that could relatively easily move those jobs back inside the EU. Except all 3 of them.

    Edited by DFawkes at 11:31:51 05-10-2020
  • Psychotext 5 Oct 2020 11:42:13 67,580 posts
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    DFawkes wrote:
    Now come on, it's not like any of those companies are owned by companies based in EU member states that could relatively easily move those jobs back inside the EU. Except all 3 of them.
    They're talking about the sales they make to gammony old brits. I suspect they'll survive without them.
  • Nexus_6 5 Oct 2020 11:52:38 5,348 posts
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    Bring Back Rover!
  • thelzdking 5 Oct 2020 11:58:04 10,218 posts
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    Update the Austin Allegro.
  • nickthegun 5 Oct 2020 11:59:11 83,331 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    They're talking about the sales they make to gammony old brits. I suspect they'll survive without them.
    Quite. 'They arent going to want massive import duties levied on all those cars, they will do something'.

    If you gangsters manage to crash the economy, thats going to be the least of their problems.
  • RobAnybody 5 Oct 2020 12:00:07 2,330 posts
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    thelzdking wrote:
    Update the Austin Allegro.
    Nah, bring back the Mini Metro -

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Metro

    Edited by RobAnybody at 12:03:08 05-10-2020
  • Decks 5 Oct 2020 12:02:37 26,870 posts
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    Lynn, I'm not driving a Mini Metro.
  • Lexmeister 5 Oct 2020 12:03:52 62 posts
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    Decks wrote:
    Lynn, I'm not driving a Mini Metro.
    THEY'VE REBADGED IT, YOU FOOL
  • StarchildHypocrethes 5 Oct 2020 12:04:28 33,272 posts
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    If Brexit allows my family to own a brand new diarrhoea brown Austin Maxi again, I'm all for it.
  • JamboWayOh 5 Oct 2020 12:10:53 21,095 posts
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    thelzdking wrote:
    Update the Austin Allegro.
    This guy gets it.
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