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  • Psychotext 22 Nov 2020 11:07:15 68,274 posts
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    So apparently they might be about to agree a deal where we get to keep ARE FISHES but don't get to do the state aid shit (level playing field).

    They really did manage to get the worst of all worlds. All the fish we can eat though... or leave rotting in truck parks, waiting to get to Europe.
  • X201 22 Nov 2020 12:57:57 21,012 posts
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    But what about take back control?!
  • mothercruncher 22 Nov 2020 17:36:01 18,378 posts
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    Were taking back codtrol.
  • JamboWayOh 22 Nov 2020 17:52:17 21,665 posts
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    mothercruncher wrote:
    Were taking back codtrol.
    Bravo.
  • X201 22 Nov 2020 19:15:22 21,012 posts
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    Sounds like a load of pollocks to me
  • challenge_hanukkah 22 Nov 2020 20:41:12 13,314 posts
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    Well, we've had enough time to mullet over.
  • EMarkM 23 Nov 2020 08:02:16 5,344 posts
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    At least, once this is over, everyone will know their...plaice?

    Im very, very sorry.
  • drhickman1983 23 Nov 2020 08:56:08 7,228 posts
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    EMarkM wrote:
    At least, once this is over, everyone will know their...plaice?

    Im very, very sorry.
    It's okay, salmon had to say it.
  • Salaman 23 Nov 2020 09:45:27 23,912 posts
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    So, October 15 was the deadline to be able to put any agreement through the UK and EU parliaments. Since no deal was in sight in October everyone went "We-ell, I guess if push comes to shove we could still rush it through if we get a deal by mid November?"

    We're now a week past that. Can we assume it's going to be a no-deal then or is the game of 'who will blink first' still ongoing?
  • Jono62 23 Nov 2020 10:01:44 26,002 posts
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    The UK did get a trade deal with Canada with EU terms. I imagine it was the EU's papers with EU crossed out and the UK added in biro.
  • fontgeeksogood 23 Nov 2020 10:16:02 11,269 posts
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    We only agreed because we're the most polite country in the world. Good luck with the other 192
  • DFawkes 23 Nov 2020 10:43:49 32,690 posts
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    Jono62 wrote:
    The UK did get a trade deal with Canada with EU terms. I imagine it was the EU's papers with EU crossed out and the UK added in biro.
    I was under the impression that, thanks to WTO terms, this also means we have to offer those same terms to every other country unless we have a really good reason not to. Is that wrong? I genuinely hope I'm wrong because if not it's stupider than it initially looks.
  • Psychotext 23 Nov 2020 10:44:05 68,274 posts
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    Jono62 wrote:
    The UK did get a trade deal with Canada with EU terms. I imagine it was the EU's papers with EU crossed out and the UK added in biro.
    It's literally that. It not a trade deal but a continuation of existing rules. Basically another transition period.
  • JamboWayOh 23 Nov 2020 11:37:10 21,665 posts
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    DFawkes wrote:
    Jono62 wrote:
    The UK did get a trade deal with Canada with EU terms. I imagine it was the EU's papers with EU crossed out and the UK added in biro.
    I was under the impression that, thanks to WTO terms, this also means we have to offer those same terms to every other country unless we have a really good reason not to. Is that wrong? I genuinely hope I'm wrong because if not it's stupider than it initially looks.
    Yes, I believe that is correct and something that James Delingpole couldn't get round his head.
  • brokenkey 23 Nov 2020 13:05:35 10,657 posts
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    I wonder if it's like the Japan deal where we get the leftovers of whatever quotas the EU hasn't used up.
  • chopsen 23 Nov 2020 14:08:00 21,350 posts
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    Yeah, that's exactly what I was wondering.

    You'd imagine it must be otherwise they'd have to renegotiate with the EU to reduce quotas, which I can't see happening.
  • oldskooldeano 23 Nov 2020 14:29:07 3,200 posts
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    drhickman1983 wrote:
    EMarkM wrote:
    At least, once this is over, everyone will know their...plaice?

    Im very, very sorry.
    It's okay, salmon had to say it.
    Look guys, control of our fishing waters is a fundamental right for us as a sovereign nation. It's not something we can just skate over and our patience with the eu is wearing fin. Stop being so flippant!
  • EMarkM 23 Nov 2020 16:53:49 5,344 posts
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    :D
  • askew 23 Nov 2020 19:28:39 22,180 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Jono62 wrote:
    The UK did get a trade deal with Canada with EU terms. I imagine it was the EU's papers with EU crossed out and the UK added in biro.
    It's literally that. It not a trade deal but a continuation of existing rules. Basically another transition period.
    Yeah, "Trade Continuity Deal" ya stinkin' REMAONDERS
  • reddevil93 23 Nov 2020 19:34:52 15,747 posts
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    Lots of chatter that Nissan have decided the Sunderland plant will be closed down. Article about it in some reputable auto-manufacturing magazine.
  • Jono62 23 Nov 2020 19:37:10 26,002 posts
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    Now that is taking back control.
  • JamboWayOh 23 Nov 2020 19:38:39 21,665 posts
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    reddevil93 wrote:
    Lots of chatter that Nissan have decided the Sunderland plant will be closed down. Article about it in some reputable auto-manufacturing magazine.
    Looks like that leopard decided to eat all those faces after all. Who could have seen this coming?
  • EMarkM 23 Nov 2020 19:40:10 5,344 posts
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    Jono62 wrote:
    Now that is taking back control.
    Maybe well now have BRITISH Leyland again!

    /Thumps chest
    /Hurts fist on poppy pin
  • JamboWayOh 23 Nov 2020 19:41:15 21,665 posts
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    EMarkM wrote:
    Jono62 wrote:
    Now that is taking back control.
    Maybe well now have BRITISH Leyland again!

    /Thumps chest
    /Hurts fist on poppy pin
    Rover, next please! And Rolls Royce!
  • Dgzter 23 Nov 2020 19:43:10 3,434 posts
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    It's one of those situations where it is genuinely challenging to prioritise a degree of sympathy over the more emotive 'you were fucking telt, ya cunts!', but what an absolutely monumental disaster for the NE if this turn out to be true.

    How many are employed there? And how many other dependent jobs? Already one of the most impoverished areas in the country. Absolutely fucked.
  • Dgzter 23 Nov 2020 19:45:48 3,434 posts
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    Think that early image from the Sunderland count on the night of the referendum is going to feature quite heavily in the coming days.
  • JamboWayOh 23 Nov 2020 19:59:11 21,665 posts
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    You feel as if there have to be a day of reckoning for the people who knowingly lied to them if this turns out to be true, but deep down I know they'll get away with it
  • Stuz359 23 Nov 2020 20:04:09 313 posts
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    @DFawkes It's not the case, if we have signed a trade deal with Canada, then we trade according to the terms of that deal. WTO terms applies to countries that we don't have a trade deal with so as not to give favourable/unfavourable tariffs to specific nations. For example, if we traded with Argentina for, say, Beef on WTO terms, whatever tariff we applied to the product from that one nation would have to be applied to all nations that we traded on WTO terms. If it was 0% it would apply to all nations, as would a tariff of 10%.
  • X201 23 Nov 2020 21:02:08 21,012 posts
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    reddevil93 wrote:
    Lots of chatter that Nissan have decided the Sunderland plant will be closed down. Article about it in some reputable auto-manufacturing magazine.
    Its in the gossip column.

    Machine translation follows:

    Nissan casts its own Brexit vote Since the Brexit referendum four years ago, car manufacturers on the island have been warning of a no deal. But Prime Minister Boris Johnson apparently still believes he can dictate the conditions to the EU Denial of reality is now taking revenge. According to reports, Nissan is planning to close its plant in Sederland. "A decision has been made and it is not favorable for Great Britain," said a Nissan manager familiar with the matter. 7000 jobs are at stake in Sunderland. It is the largest automobile plant in the UK. Europe boss Gianluca de Ficchy wants to make the difficult decision public in a few days. Chief Operating Officer Ashwani Gupta had recently warned: "If Brexit comes without a viable business model being recognizable, then it's no longer about Sunderland or not Sunderland. Then our entire business in Great Britain would no longer be sustainable. "
  • Psychotext 23 Nov 2020 21:37:51 68,274 posts
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    They were never going to be able to make it work once they realised that the UK was never going to get agreement over rules of origin.

    https://www.ft.com/content/4fa4732b-877b-4994-bfc4-c8ae1cd80a78
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