Following Post Poll... Britain decided to... Page 1689

  • frightlever 4 Mar 2021 09:23:46 1,522 posts
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    mrharvest wrote:
    https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/mar/04/brexit-northern-ireland-loyalist-armies-renounce-good-friday-agreement

    A body that claims to represent loyalist paramilitary organisations has told Boris Johnson the outlawed groups are withdrawing support for Northern Ireland’s historic peace agreement.
    On an unrelated note, the Irish Sea Border enhanced checks are going to make drug smuggling from GB to NI a lot harder.

    Edited by frightlever at 09:30:15 04-03-2021
  • frightlever 4 Mar 2021 09:29:33 1,522 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    Unlit Sumplands!

    The government's plan to introduce checks on food and drink from the European Union this summer risks hampering the re-opening of pubs and restaurants, industry bodies have warned.

    Cheese, wine, vegetables and other imports from the continent are at risk of being delayed.

    “There would have been a full-blown crisis in Northern Ireland in January had restaurants been open and the same sort of thinking could play out for EU-UK flows,” said Shane Brennan, Chief Executive of The Cold Chain Federation.

    “It is unprecedented in terms of what we are going to experience”.

    Unlike the EU, which implemented post-Brexit checks on goods coming from the UK on January 1st, the government has opted for a phased approach in order to give businesses time to prepare.
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    On April 1st UK border officials will begin requesting Sanitary & Phytosanitary paperwork for animal and plant imports like meat and eggs. Three months later, on July 1st, all goods arriving into Britain from EU member states will face a full range of customs, security and health checks.
    https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/brexit-import-checks-april-july-hospitality
    Kicking it down the line isn't going to help. It'll be like doing all the work on your year long assignment the night before you have to hand it in.
  • muddyyfunster 4 Mar 2021 09:38:04 1,058 posts
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    frightlever wrote:
    Psychotext wrote:
    Unlit Sumplands!

    The government's plan to introduce checks on food and drink from the European Union this summer risks hampering the re-opening of pubs and restaurants, industry bodies have warned.

    Cheese, wine, vegetables and other imports from the continent are at risk of being delayed.

    “There would have been a full-blown crisis in Northern Ireland in January had restaurants been open and the same sort of thinking could play out for EU-UK flows,” said Shane Brennan, Chief Executive of The Cold Chain Federation.

    “It is unprecedented in terms of what we are going to experience”.

    Unlike the EU, which implemented post-Brexit checks on goods coming from the UK on January 1st, the government has opted for a phased approach in order to give businesses time to prepare.
    Related

    On April 1st UK border officials will begin requesting Sanitary & Phytosanitary paperwork for animal and plant imports like meat and eggs. Three months later, on July 1st, all goods arriving into Britain from EU member states will face a full range of customs, security and health checks.
    https://www.politicshome.com/news/article/brexit-import-checks-april-july-hospitality
    Kicking it down the line isn't going to help. It'll be like doing all the work on your year long assignment the night before you have to hand it in.
    Please stop foreseeing these unforeseeable problems.
  • IRWATWO 4 Mar 2021 09:58:17 1,124 posts
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    @frightlever

    "It'll be like doing all the work on your year long assignment the night before you have to hand it in."

    That is the Johnson approach to everything. Leave it to the last minute, then dress it up as being decisive under pressure, having created the pressure in the first place. Then blame someone else if there are any problems. And it really works.
  • Nemesis 4 Mar 2021 10:10:47 20,035 posts
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    “ The government's plan to introduce checks on food and drink from the European Union this summer risks hampering the re-opening of pubs and restaurants, industry bodies have warned.”

    Save Our Hampers!
  • DaM 4 Mar 2021 10:52:39 17,671 posts
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    Kicking it back a few months would also put it passed the Scottish Parliament elections in May. Any clear evidence that Brexit is a shitshow makes independence easier to plug.

    Of course it also raises post-independence issues with the Scottish-English border, but if the Tories raise that, it just adds to the Brexit is shit narrative, and reminds people that they've forced it on us.

    Their main goal is to deny the SNP an outright majority in a parliament system designed to be impossible to get a majority in.
  • Psychotext 5 Mar 2021 15:56:24 69,978 posts
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    Looks like the Americans might be paying attention...

    This is now the second time... that this UK government has signed up to an international agreement and then immediately decided to go back on what it agreed to.
    https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/status/1367617743210561538
  • nickthegun 5 Mar 2021 16:04:56 86,026 posts
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    It needs america to properly pull our pants down for anyone to take notice.
  • General_Martok 5 Mar 2021 16:54:40 2,096 posts
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    Consequences are required.
  • Dougs 12 Mar 2021 07:26:46 98,694 posts
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    https://mobile.twitter.com/thom_sampson/status/1370270991448965121
  • IRWATWO 12 Mar 2021 09:43:04 1,124 posts
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    A spokesman will be wheeled out to explain why these figures are actually good, they would have been worse if anyone but Johnson was in charge, it's the EUs intransigence that is the problem, and Liz Truss has just signed a multi pound trade deal with Paraguay.

    Cleverley perhaps, he's just sort of cretinous parrot for this one.
  • Psychotext 12 Mar 2021 12:19:00 69,978 posts
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    This is just... woof.



    Billions lost.
  • TheSaint 12 Mar 2021 12:43:55 20,544 posts
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    The original story on the BBC news website on this only actually mentioned Brexit once. In fairness, though it has since been updated to make it clear that is the main reason.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56370690
  • nickthegun 12 Mar 2021 12:44:53 86,026 posts
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    Thats a lot of winning
  • Darth_Flibble 12 Mar 2021 18:25:54 5,101 posts
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    Boris or some tory MP: we've had enough of exports! (probably)
  • RGeefe 12 Mar 2021 18:30:10 1,864 posts
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    I find it interesting to read comments on the BBC. Previously it was people being rather pro Brexit but ever since it happened and mostly since Boris took over it's flipped and is almost uniformly anti Brexit
  • Deleted user 12 March 2021 18:37:28
    Always found it weird how people refused to hear the experts out on this, but were willing to do what Kev down the pub said. Experts that have spent years of their lives working in trade etc. Kev's credentials are his collection of beer mats.
  • Darth_Flibble 12 Mar 2021 18:40:10 5,101 posts
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    Shamble wrote:
    Always found it weird how people refused to hear the experts out on this, but were willing to do what Kev down the pub said. Experts that have spent years of their lives working in trade etc. Kev's credentials are his collection of beer mats.
    half eaten ones I have no doubt
  • Darth_Flibble 13 Mar 2021 09:27:35 5,101 posts
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    exporters are having a great time

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/mar/13/uk-exporters-brexit-damage-costs-customs-paperwork
  • senso-ji 13 Mar 2021 09:32:22 10,132 posts
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    Remember, guys, we were trading without issues before we joined the EU so we won't have any problems after we leave.....
  • askew 13 Mar 2021 10:12:16 23,117 posts
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    How's our trade with Ulaanbaatar going?
  • Psychotext 23 Mar 2021 12:10:34 69,978 posts
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    More info on those sunlit uplands: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/22/data-shows-collapse-of-uk-food-and-drink-exports-post-brexit
  • JamboWayOh 23 Mar 2021 12:13:16 23,585 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    More info on those sunlit uplands: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/22/data-shows-collapse-of-uk-food-and-drink-exports-post-brexit
    I mean obviously it isn't good news but there is the caveat as the article that restaurants and hotels are closed which obviously has had a knock on effect things being bought. But yes, it ain't great, I remember Boris saying the Indians would be buying our whisky.
  • Gibroon 23 Mar 2021 12:16:48 2,514 posts
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    You can just see it all unravelling before our eyes. Give it another year or so for all this to really sink in just how much of cluster fuck its going to be. Of course, it will all be blamed on COVID and those damn Europeans and their import tax.
  • JamboWayOh 23 Mar 2021 12:20:13 23,585 posts
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    Gibroon wrote:
    You can just see it all unravelling before our eyes. Give it another year or so for all this to really sink in just how much of cluster fuck its going to be. Of course, it will all be blamed on COVID and those damn Europeans and their import tax.
    Those reasons have all seemed to work in some people's eyes. However you've forgotten the biggest excuse is businesses not being prepared to work harder to make things work. It's baffling how the Tories have coasted on the lie that they are the party of business.
  • Nexus_6 23 Mar 2021 12:26:09 5,936 posts
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    "Fuck Business"
  • grey_matters 23 Mar 2021 12:53:50 5,434 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    Psychotext wrote:
    More info on those sunlit uplands: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/22/data-shows-collapse-of-uk-food-and-drink-exports-post-brexit
    I mean obviously it isn't good news but there is the caveat as the article that restaurants and hotels are closed which obviously has had a knock on effect things being bought. But yes, it ain't great, I remember Boris saying the Indians would be buying our whisky.
    In the same timeframe, Ireland's imports from the UK have dropped around 45% and UK exports have dropped only 14%.
    Total goods exported is down 12%. I would suggest that the biggest factor in the article above is not Covid.
  • Matt_B 23 Mar 2021 15:08:09 509 posts
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    Psychotext wrote:
    More info on those sunlit uplands: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/22/data-shows-collapse-of-uk-food-and-drink-exports-post-brexit
    I'm assuming the 75% drop doesn't include the food items that arrived in the EU and were destroyed due to incorrect paperwork? Were these food items classed as a successful exports even though they weren't?
  • brokenkey 23 Mar 2021 15:27:44 10,895 posts
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    JamboWayOh wrote:
    Psychotext wrote:
    More info on those sunlit uplands: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/22/data-shows-collapse-of-uk-food-and-drink-exports-post-brexit
    I mean obviously it isn't good news but there is the caveat as the article that restaurants and hotels are closed which obviously has had a knock on effect things being bought. But yes, it ain't great, I remember Boris saying the Indians would be buying our whisky.
    Maybe, but look at the drop in breakfast cerial. I know London used to have restaurant that sold only that, but I can't believe as a product it's that dependent on the hotel industry - people eat breakfast at home?
  • JamboWayOh 23 Mar 2021 16:03:37 23,585 posts
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    Of course, but there must be some impact. However I do think the effect of Covid is a smokescreen and the country will still be fucked even after we've got a hold on the virus.
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