The CSGO gambling story Page 3

  • Deleted user 5 July 2016 13:22:43
    @Decks

    It is the internetz so i would say start off with a 1,000,000/10 then after a few weeks settle for a 6/10 level of outrage. A few months from now it is more 2/10.
  • Rivuzu 5 Jul 2016 13:24:17 18,417 posts
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    Haha, true. "Good" reason no, but a logical one yes. An extremely rare item with limited stock in circulation will drive people nuts.

    Look at the Timebreaker mace for Faceless Void. It was an asset ripped from another game, and once it was discovered, was pulled from sale - but the ones already out there shot from being 2 cosmetics to 30 cosmetics.

    People love a unicorn.
  • Deleted user 5 July 2016 13:24:19
    Wow, GamerGate has a wikipedia page :S
  • Dirtbox 5 Jul 2016 13:25:54 91,955 posts
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  • Gl3n Moderator 5 Jul 2016 16:06:13 6,841 posts
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    Who is even playing CS anymore? Amirite?
  • neilka 5 Jul 2016 16:31:51 23,739 posts
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    Is this a situation that could possibly be resolved by pushing everyone involved into a really big hole?
  • romelpotter 5 Jul 2016 16:36:09 317 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    Well done for reading my entire post tho, good work.

    I did, and I stand by my post. Its not just a storm in a tea cup, its an outrageous shit storm of epic proportions and the two dudes involved need to get banged up somewhere nasty for 15 years or so. :)
  • Dirtbox 5 Jul 2016 16:54:36 91,955 posts
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  • Rivuzu 5 Jul 2016 16:57:47 18,417 posts
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    It's not like they voted Leave or anything.

    Probably not old enough TO vote.
  • Deleted user 5 July 2016 17:05:46
    I remember being weirded out and confused when I sold a TF2 hat for hundreds of pounds several years ago, one I "won" by completing a sale promotion. That it now happens on a daily basis for thousands of thousands of dollars is just even more a mindfuck. How can a skin for a character in a specific game be worth that much? I literally can't comprehend the economics of it. Do people even use the skins, or are they just traded around and sold on like a hot potato?
  • Dirtbox 5 Jul 2016 17:07:54 91,955 posts
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  • Deleted user 5 July 2016 17:09:38
    That makes even less sense to me than character skins.
  • M83J01P97 5 Jul 2016 17:25:12 7,607 posts
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    Is it just me, or do Valve really come across as an obnoxious, do anything to get as much money as possible, fuck everyone over company now a days?

    These were the guys who made Portal and Half Life 2....
  • Decks 5 Jul 2016 17:27:37 28,427 posts
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    Gabe Newell has a $300,000 a day pork pie addiction.

    Edited by Decks at 21:25:36 05-07-2016
  • Rivuzu 5 Jul 2016 17:37:00 18,417 posts
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    @M83J01P97 You mean the same guys who launched the first One Stop Shop for PC digital download content, and have since inception charged 30% of every purchase as their cut?
  • Unclebenny 5 Jul 2016 17:58:20 841 posts
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    The problem witht he gaming community (well... one of them) is that they are incredibly tribalistic.

    Imagine if EA was involved in this somehow. Reddit would crash under the weight of half arsed memes about how terrible it all is.

    Ceartain companies and games are given a pass. Others villified for everything they do. Valve is the darling of the PC community despite their numerous onerous practices.

    Streamers attract the same amount of fandom becuase they are seen as outside the system. In fact they are more deeply in bedded in the system than anything before. As this nonsense has shown.

    If the community could focus on the actual issues and not the faces attached them then their opprobium could be better directed. Chances are though that this will recieve mixed reaction because people cant seperate the person from the medium they create in or the company from the popular narrative about it.
  • mrfantastico 5 Jul 2016 17:59:18 134 posts
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    Rivuzu wrote:
    Well, some things go for extraordinary prices for a good reason though. Here's one;

    In Dota 2, I had an Alpine Ursa set. Ursa, a hero in the game, is a fucking bear. Literally a bear. He rips your shit up all over the place. A bear. The Alpine cosmetic set, when it was first introduced, cost about 7 and gave him lederhosen, a funny german hat, etc - you get the idea. He looked like a yodeller, or like he belonged in The Sound of Music.

    After a week, Valve pulled the set and said it wasn't in keeping with the character, and it was no longer on sale. This turned it almost overnight into a unicorn - an item so rare, that it's value is inflated ten times over.

    I ended up selling the set quite early on, but did so for 300 via the Steam marketplace. Took the money as Steam credit, hardly paid for anything in 2014-2015 for PC gaming.

    Last I checked, there was one guy who had collected about 30 of the sets. His inventory alone, if sold off for real-money, is probably worth about 10k.


    I really want this Ursa set. I'd be quite tempted to hold onto it, because lederhosen Ursa. But then, dolla dolla bill y'all

    I think the most I've sold something for is about 50p.
  • Deleted user 5 July 2016 18:01:03
    The part that tickles me is that some of the weapon skins they have as prizes are worth thousands of dollars... Fucking seriously???!?!?!?
  • Mekanik 5 Jul 2016 18:14:41 4,726 posts
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    dfunked wrote:
    The part that tickles me is that some of the weapon skins they have as prizes are worth thousands of dollars... Fucking seriously???!?!?!?
    Yeah, but thats usually the other person you are playing against.

    How most of these sites work is you have a higher chance of winning everything the more money you put in the pot, so you find some people will go in at the last second with a $10k pot which gives them a 99.999999% chance of winning everything (maybe not so high, but you catch my drift).
  • Mekanik 5 Jul 2016 18:19:40 4,726 posts
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    If you want a real laugh. Check out vac-ban.com

    Have a look at these idiots that got VAC'd and lost everything on their account. If you get VAC'd you cant trade/send away any items on the account. Thousands of pounds of stuff going bye bye each day.

    Theres a subreddit i think which lists all this stuff as well. Madness.
  • Dirtbox 5 Jul 2016 18:28:06 91,955 posts
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  • Mekanik 5 Jul 2016 18:44:30 4,726 posts
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    You get an automatic trade ban. At least, if you get VAC'd in CS:GO you cannot trade any CS:GO skins.

    I assume other games are the same, although I am not sure if a ban in 1 game effects trading in all the other items as well.

    Never been VAC'd and dont plan on finding out. :)
  • Dirtbox 5 Jul 2016 22:46:43 91,955 posts
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  • Deleted user 5 July 2016 22:56:22
    DB is a CS player... It all starts to make sense now!
  • romelpotter 5 Jul 2016 22:59:51 317 posts
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    Dirtbox wrote:
    romelpotter wrote:
    Dirtbox wrote:
    Well done for reading my entire post tho, good work.

    I did, and I stand by my post. Its not just a storm in a tea cup, its an outrageous shit storm of epic proportions and the two dudes involved need to get banged up somewhere nasty for 15 years or so. :)
    A couple of naive douchebrats attempting to commit fraud is an outrageous shit storm of epic proportions? Get a grip.
    Well a black market fraud ring abetted by arguably the biggest PC games company is more than a couple of doughnuts, who will soon to be gripped; by King Dong Daddy 'O and his fellow lifer, Nolube McLubeface!!!!
  • Deleted user 6 July 2016 03:29:49
    Not sure how Valve can be accused of abetting it, given it's all done through third party sites. They could have been more proactive, sure, but it's not like they were contacting you tubers themselves and going "pssst, here's how to scam people". I also imagine there's some behind the scenes legal thought of libel action should they have acted without proof of legal wrongdoings.
  • Mekanik 6 Jul 2016 09:05:40 4,726 posts
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    https://www.reddit.com/r/vac_porn

    That page shows people who have been VAC'd with silly high inventory values. Some are insane.

    @Gremmoo Agreed. The fact when you sign in to these third party sites you get a warning from Steam to not log in, and a choice to carry on at your own risk, probably covers Valve's arse.
  • SomaticSense 6 Jul 2016 10:53:29 15,062 posts
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    Gremmoo wrote:
    Not sure how Valve can be accused of abetting it, given it's all done through third party sites. They could have been more proactive, sure, but it's not like they were contacting you tubers themselves and going "pssst, here's how to scam people". I also imagine there's some behind the scenes legal thought of libel action should they have acted without proof of legal wrongdoings.
    Well it hardly reflects well on them when they retract a block on the allegedly (clearly) illegal site with a message that effectively states "Nah, some junior goon we have no responsibilty for made a mistake blocking this. This is all fine, go on through."
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