Leaked sex tape causes suicide. Who is to blame? • Non-Gaming • News and Politics • Eurogamer.net

Vice.Destroyer 16 Sep 2016 10:04:34 7,437 posts
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Now, do remember that a woman killed herself over this, so do remember to be respectful of this.

But if I understand the situation correctly, Tiziana Cantone sent a sex video of herself and her new partner to her ex and four other people. Why? No idea, but as I understand it, it was not an accident. One of the recipients, I think her boyfriend, uploads it to the internet and it becomes a huge hit. So much so that it even spawned merchandise! Mobile phone covers, mugs, t-shirts, etc. And she becomes a huge laughing stock. She got the video removed from Google, but that didn't stop the internet laughing.

And then she committed suicide. Now, the recipients are being investigated with a view to being charged in connection with her death. And I would like to take the temperature of EG. If you get sent a sex tape by one of the participants deliberately and you share it. Whose fault are the repercussions? BBC link

Decks 16 Sep 2016 10:07:19 31,013 posts
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Sending a sex video to an ex probably isn't a wise move.

You-can-call-me-kal 16 Sep 2016 10:07:41 23,013 posts
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A somewhat pained analogy is that if I purposely leave my door open all day when I go to work, am I to blame if my house gets robbed?

Again, not a great analogy but the point being that doing something extremely stupid does not absolve those who abuse that stupidity of crimes.

Mola_Ram 16 Sep 2016 10:08:23 26,187 posts
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Probably the guy who uploaded it to the internet. I mean, you'd have to be pretty stupid to share that stuff with third parties in the first place, but putting it online is a step beyond.

Duffking 16 Sep 2016 10:09:18 16,964 posts
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Er, the people who uploaded it, obviously? Regardless of whether it was stupid to send it to someone in the first place, I doubt there was a note attached to it saying "hi please upload this to the internet to cause mass embarassment to me bye".

richarddavies 16 Sep 2016 10:09:46 8,312 posts
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Sounds like she did something intentionally cruel and got it turned around on her. In regards to her suicide it's sad regardless but she should of stuck with it rather than give up.

UncleLou Moderator 16 Sep 2016 10:11:33 40,723 posts
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You don't upload private stuff (of others), period. There's no excuse.

Duffking 16 Sep 2016 10:13:36 16,964 posts
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You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
A somewhat pained analogy is that if I purposely leave my door open all day when I go to work, am I to blame if my house gets robbed?

Again, not a great analogy but the point being that doing something extremely stupid does not absolve those who abuse that stupidity of crimes.

Well generally in law the person who comits the crime is to blame.

Deleted user 16 September 2016 10:16:42

I'd primarily blame the guy who uploaded it. It was unwise for Cantone to share the video in the first place, but that was done so with her consent. There's a difference between that and making a video of somebody else public without their permission.

X201 16 Sep 2016 10:19:50 22,150 posts
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Whoever uploaded it
As others have said, even though what she did appears to be motivated by revenge, that doesn't give the boyfriend carte blanche or absolution from blame when it come to uploading it

grassyknoll 16 Sep 2016 10:22:06 754 posts
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For me, morally partly, legally I'd say no. The video she sent (maliciously) to the ex & 4 other people kind of makes it public domain. The content of what you send or post online / or by phone always has the possibility of appearing where you don't want it to (but it is revenge porn of a sort). I found the whole thing very sad and she must have had serious mental health problems.

Edited by grassyknoll at 10:24:41 16-09-2016

Deleted user 16 September 2016 10:24:50

Yeah, got to be the person who uploaded it. Though if it was her ex who uploaded it after she sent him and 4 of their mates a sex tape, then he'd have maybe have an argument for mitigating circumstances as he'd probably have felt she was slighting him and he was getting back at her.

Ziz0u 16 Sep 2016 10:27:04 11,006 posts
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The person who uploaded it, but god damn, that was malicious of her (without knowing why she felt it was necessary to do something like that).

LeD 16 Sep 2016 10:27:35 7,063 posts
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Was she hot and where can I see her stuff?

richarddavies 16 Sep 2016 10:27:55 8,312 posts
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Everyone involved just sound like horrendous people really. I'd never dream of filming myself having sex with people and sending it to an ex. And I'd be mortified if it was done to me.

Putting it online though for the world to see is just cruel though.

mrpon 16 Sep 2016 10:28:57 37,366 posts
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Links?

Too soon?

Vice.Destroyer 16 Sep 2016 10:30:58 7,437 posts
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mrpon wrote:
Links?

Too soon?

Too soon.

twelveways 16 Sep 2016 10:31:26 7,131 posts
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I think if she is dumb enough to send a sex tape to an ex them she deserves it. He obviously shouldn't have done it but she sounds like she was a bit of a twat anyway

mrpon 16 Sep 2016 10:34:29 37,366 posts
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Apols VD, I'll wait for page 2.

Apols for using apols.

Apols.

BigOrkWaaagh 16 Sep 2016 10:34:40 10,554 posts
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Vice.Destroyer wrote:

mrpon wrote:
Links?

Too soon?
Too soon.

How about now?

nickthegun 16 Sep 2016 10:35:28 87,711 posts
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twelveways wrote:
I think if she is dumb enough to send a sex tape to an ex them she deserves it. He obviously shouldn't have done it but she sounds like she was a bit of a twat anyway

And now she's dead, so that showed her, eh?

Tonka 16 Sep 2016 10:35:41 31,979 posts
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grassyknoll wrote:
For me, morally partly, legally I'd say no. The video she sent (maliciously) to the ex & 4 other people kind of makes it public domain. The content of what you send or post online / or by phone always has the possibility of appearing where you don't want it to (but it is revenge porn of a sort). I found the whole thing very sad and she must have had serious mental health problems.

WTF?

This kind of mindset really needs to be bored of the internet.

It is NOT OK to repost what others send you to cause harm.
Likewise The fappening was NOT a leak. It was theft and nigh on assault. The whole "of you put it on the web" line is vile and anyone repeating it as a way of defending criminals is a jellyback

"Kind of public domain" WTF are you on about?

Shameful bit of victim blaming at the end too. Who the fuck are you to make such assessments?

Cappy 16 Sep 2016 10:39:51 14,393 posts
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It's entirely her own fault. You can't just send videos to people then expect to have control over what they do with it afterwards.

Furthermore, let's try switching the genders. Imagine a man sending women a video of him having sex, something that's definitely frowned upon. So she could easily be classified as a sexual harasser if any recipient of the clip didn't want to see that sort of material.

Lastly when there's a suicide there's a reason we don't put everybody who interacted with them under police scrutiny. It's not reasonable to expect them to be responsible for the actions of somebody who is an adult and it's very difficult to prove responsibility.

There was a recent UK story in which a girl falsely accused a seventeen year old boy of rape destroying his life and making it a living Hell, he commits suicide. The accuser is directly responsible but she has never been charged. A year later the boy's grief stricken Mother commits suicide herself. The BBC doesn't consider it news worthy.

DaM 16 Sep 2016 10:41:15 17,729 posts
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I don't understand why lots of young girls take naked selfies of themselves. They must realise that there is a good chance they will end up on the internet, to be perved over by deviants like you lot. Not me. No sir.

THFourteen 16 Sep 2016 10:45:27 54,987 posts
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I feel sorry for that woman but unfortunately people just should not make sex videos if they do not want the risk that someone sees them.

She learned the hard way, hopefully others can learn from that.

Of course she is not solely to blame, but I can't excuse the victim even in tragic cases like this.

monkman76 16 Sep 2016 10:46:26 18,987 posts
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I'm not sure "who is to blame?" is the best way to react to this. As far as I can tell no law has been broken. It's a sad story with some regrettable behaviour on both sides.