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the question is, would we be discussing this for 4 pages if it was a Story about a dude doing suicide after the same circumstances? I'm not so sure. I looked at some pics of her......off Topic and not making Point about who deserves what, but she clearly strikes me as a attention whore who was very focussed on being a sex Symbol. well, she became a sex Symbol. Be careful what you wish for..... |
Leaked sex tape causes suicide. Who is to blame? • Page 5
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Big-Swiss 9,455 posts
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Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoAboutHalfaStevas wrote:
What a completely predictable question. Let's see if you can manage to work out the answer to that one yourself. You are allowed to cheat and look at my previous answer.
But when is it okay to send a video of yourself chewing on another dude to your ex dude's dying grandmother?
For extra credit: Write a bit about why you thought this was relevant to bring up? Spend a bit thinking about it. Watch this video first and see if it resonates. -
CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years agoRivuzu wrote:
Not true - there have been various cases in which workplace accidents have lead to the victims becoming depressed and committing suicide, and the employer being found liable.
CosmicFuzz wrote:
It doesn't work like that. Not in the UK at least. I don't know about Italian law for bobbins, but in the UK, you can't just "blame" someone for another persons suicide and give them a sentence.
Legally, you've got to look at whether or not it was reasonable to foresee that the person would commit suicide if the video was uploaded. It's much like the case with the Australian radio show prank call to the nurse who killed herself. In that case, the radio show hosts were (rightly) ruled not to have been the cause of her death, because it wasn't reasonably forseeable that their actions would lead to her death.
Obviously uploading a sex tape to the internet if different. And given the content of it etc, I personally don't think it's unreasonable to think that it could have lead to suicide. Especially if the ex-boyfriend knew the woman and was aware if this was a reaction she was capable of.
See here for an example: http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/ltext/health-safety-autumn-2009-company-liable.htm
If the court decide to "blame" someone for another person's suicide, they can do that. To be clear, I'm talking about a civil action for compensation for loss arising out of a personal injury as opposed to criminal charges. In this case, I'd be very surprised if there are any murder charges etc. -
mrpon 37,366 posts
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Registered 15 years agobad09 wrote:
Way!!
mrpon wrote:
No fucking way!
I liked that bit in the news the other day about a girl suing her parents for uploading embarrassing pics of her when she was a baby/kid.
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Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agomrpon wrote:
Stupid try to do stupid things all the time, it's fairly irrelevant if they lose the case.
bad09 wrote:
Way!!
mrpon wrote:
No fucking way!
I liked that bit in the news the other day about a girl suing her parents for uploading embarrassing pics of her when she was a baby/kid.
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Just read up on this. Best I can tell, she made 6 videos as a game (one including the oral sex that seems to be the main one people are talking about. She also said derogatory things about her ex in these videos). She sent the videos to a number of people with whom she had virtual relationships. Of those, 4 people appear to have uploaded them to the internet (traced by their uploading details). I assume the ex boyfriend was one of those, but its not clear. Its alleged the ex boyfriend cheated on her.
Looks like fake profiles pretending to be her were also put up on facebook the thing proliferated. -
the_milkybar_kid 8,474 posts
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Registered 7 years agoNarcissism is something I cant comprehend. Of she's sending out video's of her noshing some bloke/s off she's responsible for her actions. -
Ziz0u 11,006 posts
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Registered 12 years agoI blame Brexit, personally. -
Rivuzu 18,424 posts
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Registered 15 years agoCosmicFuzz wrote:
Civil action, sure. But not criminal proceedings. I was talking about the latter 100%.
Rivuzu wrote:
Not true - there have been various cases in which workplace accidents have lead to the victims becoming depressed and committing suicide, and the employer being found liable.
CosmicFuzz wrote:
It doesn't work like that. Not in the UK at least. I don't know about Italian law for bobbins, but in the UK, you can't just "blame" someone for another persons suicide and give them a sentence.
Legally, you've got to look at whether or not it was reasonable to foresee that the person would commit suicide if the video was uploaded. It's much like the case with the Australian radio show prank call to the nurse who killed herself. In that case, the radio show hosts were (rightly) ruled not to have been the cause of her death, because it wasn't reasonably forseeable that their actions would lead to her death.
Obviously uploading a sex tape to the internet if different. And given the content of it etc, I personally don't think it's unreasonable to think that it could have lead to suicide. Especially if the ex-boyfriend knew the woman and was aware if this was a reaction she was capable of.
See here for an example: http://www.thompsons.law.co.uk/ltext/health-safety-autumn-2009-company-liable.htm
If the court decide to "blame" someone for another person's suicide, they can do that. To be clear, I'm talking about a civil action for compensation for loss arising out of a personal injury as opposed to criminal charges. In this case, I'd be very surprised if there are any murder charges etc. -
CosmicFuzz 32,632 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThen it would appear we were both right! -
phAge 25,487 posts
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Registered 18 years agobad09 wrote:
I bet your mum is proud.
With regards to the suicide, it's sad the women took her own life but also incredibly stupid really. -
mrpon 37,366 posts
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Registered 15 years agoMaybe he has his wires crossed -
Godofporn 6,915 posts
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Registered 7 years agoI don't approve of revenge porn. -
phAge 25,487 posts
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Registered 18 years agobad09 wrote:
No-one is ever, EVER "stupid" in taking their own life. It is an act of supreme desperation and feeling of powerlesness, and no two people are alike as to what can cause this feeling.
@phAge
You don't think it stupid she took her own life over this nonsense? OK.....
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Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years agobad09 wrote:
Hold up.
Nothing has been mentioned to trigger the sending of the vid I think but even if he dumped her or slept with someone else I don't think it matters. It was still a harsh act of revenge.
So it doesn't matter if he did something to her, because her sending a video is just a step too far.
But him taking that video and uploading it to the internet is fine precisely because what she did to him wasn't very nice.
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Big-Swiss wrote:
This, exactly. And no, we wouldn't. If it was a male, he would have been prosecuted for sending the video in the first place - and if people were discussing the story at all, they'd be saying ain't karma wonderful.
the question is, would we be discussing this for 4 pages if it was a Story about a dude doing suicide after the same circumstances?
I'm not so sure.
IMHO, the only sensible way that matters like this can possibly be discussed is to "gender-anonymise" the information prior to discussion: "a person sent a sex-video of them with their new partner to their ex-partner and several other people", etc. Same as job-applications have racial identifiers removed to avoid conscious or unconscious bias skewing opinions that should be based solely upon the facts of the matter. -
Tonka 31,979 posts
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Registered 18 years agoghostgate2001 wrote:
So do you think it would be okay for someone to repost that video publicly?
IMHO, the only sensible way that matters like this can possibly be discussed is to "gender-anonymise" the information prior to discussion: "a person sent a sex-video of them with their new partner to their ex-partner and several other people", etc. -
AboutHalfaStevas 2,765 posts
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Registered 6 years agoI didn't realise I was being tested.
What if the grandmother was just feeling a bit unwell the day she watched it? -
phAge 25,487 posts
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Registered 18 years agoghostgate2001 wrote:
Pretty sure only unempathetic twats wouuld do that. Actually, I'm certain of it.
... and if people were discussing the story at all, they'd be saying ain't karma wonderful. -
Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years agoghostgate2001 wrote:
Err, bullshit.
There's little point arguing the rights and wrongs of the uploading of that malicious video. The instant the video was sent to 5 people it ceased to be "private" and became "public", having already been shared with multiple third-parties, and by her.
Remove the sexual nature from the equation. If you had a family video of your child's birthday party and you sent it to someone close to your family (say that they couldn't make the party), does that make it public property? They can upload it online so that your child is plastered up all over the place?
Make it property instead. If you lent your car to someone, is it OK if they sell it on?
Regardless of who you send something to, unless otherwise stated, it is between those individuals. At no point do they have any right to share it further, in any way, shape or form. -
Derblington 35,161 posts
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Registered 17 years agobad09 wrote:
Genuine question: are you 12?
@Derblington
What a minute. It was bad HE escalated things by uploading it but now it may HER escalating by making the vids it's wrong?
You talk to me about equality?
Anyway the point stands, no matter what happened in the relationship she went for the sex tape route and that is a pretty shitty thing. Not defending the guy, obviously you are a massive cunt if you sleep around when in a relationship but sending someone a tape of you doing someone else is awful.
Although saying that, if he wasn't that bothered (which he obviously wasn't if it turns out he did sleep with someone else) then you could argue his actions (if it was actually him out the 5 that uploaded) make him a larger dickhead previously thought. -
Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoBig-Swiss wrote:
or she could be a normal person. You're guessing at her being an attention whore based on what? some Instagram pictures?
I looked at some pics of her......off Topic and not making Point about who deserves what, but she clearly strikes me as a attention whore who was very focussed on being a sex Symbol. well, she became a sex Symbol. Be careful what you wish for.....
That would make her the same 90℅ of people under 30 in 2016.
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Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agobad09 wrote:
I think you've helped this thread get really stupid really fast.
@phAge
You don't think it stupid she took her own life over this nonsense? OK.....
Everyone is so keen to judge and lay blame when they know nothing about her mental state or any of the circumstances beyond any persons actions.
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What about the guy she was having sex with. He didn't send it to anyone
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