Following National Novel Writing Month (Nanowrimo) 2016 Page 8

  • The12thMonkey 4 Nov 2016 09:38:16 598 posts
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    @RichieTenenbaum One thing stood out to me in this chapter; hanging platform. I don't know if that was deliberate, but scaffold is the correct term. It just kept prodding me in the last third every time I came across it.
    Otherwise, I think it goes along at a good pace and I'm looking forward to reading more!
  • Deleted user 4 November 2016 09:58:15
    @wuntyphyve

    Yeah, I can see how the timeline stuff is confusing. Like I said before I'm working on scenes and knitting them together. There is some clunky stuff in there fir sure. The scenes definitely don't transition smoothly. It'll go like that until I'm further on. It seems to be an approach that works for me. I don't think linear start to finish fits my method of work.

    I'm not clear about the timeline but it'll work itself out, somehow!?
  • Deleted user 4 November 2016 10:05:36
    @wuntyphyve

    I'm enjoying your story so far. Decent writing, a good balance between description and brevity. Interest is building and I want to know more. I think that's a good sign.

    I'm thinking that an adult is going to have fairly different memories of childhood views when processed through their adult mind, if that makes sense. There would be two different views: open minded child and rational adult. The childhood views might be too perceptive and mature. Just a thought.

    Edited by rice_sandwich at 10:06:32 04-11-2016
  • wuntyate 4 Nov 2016 10:19:56 17,494 posts
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    @rice_sandwich Yeah good point man. Trying to strike a balance with what the six year old saw and what the adult now recounting that believes as he's remembering it as a child. Getting myself quite confused!!!

    And whatever aproach works for you then just do it. I'm only slightly confused but can still pretty much follow what's happening due to the fact that there are coherent strands running through all that you've written so far. Also I think your dialogue is better than you think it is!
  • Deleted user 4 November 2016 10:26:27
    @wuntyphyve

    I think you've balanced it fine so far. We always have the benefit of hindsight and later experiences can clarify earlier ones etc. Perhaps children have purer and more honest or raw emotions than adults. Adults probably rationalise more than kids. Anyway, keep writing.

    I'm trying to go for straight up dialogue. It's the thing that's taking me longest so I prefer getting the basic facts down first.
  • Deleted user 4 November 2016 18:05:08
    Eeek...what do you when you realise you've started to, or always have been , writing a bunch of self-indulgent bullshit! I can go ok for maybe 1000 words but as I get into the flow of it, it gets worse and worse and meanders off into all sorts of irrelevant nonsense (or side plots/philosophical observations, as I like to call it).

    I'm going for a 'no edit' policy, though. I've got whatever I've got and will plough on regardless.
  • wuntyate 4 Nov 2016 19:26:58 17,494 posts
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    Ha I'm starting to do the same. This is getting less coherent the more I write.

    Ach, something will emerge, sod it!
  • Deleted user 4 November 2016 20:04:36
    At least I'm on target word wise. 6910 words done.
  • wuntyate 4 Nov 2016 20:08:48 17,494 posts
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    Aye me too. Trying to just stay on target. Don't want to try and do too much and burn myself out or fall behind and give up!

    Edited by wuntyphyve at 20:09:07 04-11-2016
  • MetalDog 4 Nov 2016 21:32:59 24,076 posts
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    Day four

    That took way longer than it should have.

    *flexes poking stick*
    Who needs a poke?
  • Metalfish 4 Nov 2016 22:16:48 9,191 posts
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    Hey, I'm writing. I should be in a pub.
  • BearFishPie 5 Nov 2016 00:49:28 837 posts
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    Falling behind. 4700 words. Sad face.
  • Skirlasvoud 5 Nov 2016 00:53:39 4,039 posts
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    @BearFishPie

    Join the rebels!
  • BearFishPie 5 Nov 2016 11:24:10 837 posts
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    @Skirlasvoud Does failing to achieve a target mean I'm a rebel? That means I've been anti-establishment all my life!
  • wuntyate 5 Nov 2016 11:44:53 17,494 posts
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    Day 4 and Day 5 (where I continue to ramble)

    Got up with the boy and wrote as he watched Power Rangers and god knows what else. What an amazing parent I am. Still, got some words down.
  • Deleted user 5 November 2016 17:38:21
    @wuntyphyve

    The latest stuff is pretty good. You've included lots of description and back story give the characters mood and some depth. The only criticism I have is that it meanders a bit and perhaps loses focus on what's important and what's just interesting detail. I have exactly the same problem. Some foreshadowing or hints to the reader may be helpful.

    If you keep up this standard you'll have a fair first draft by the end of the month. Plot, structure and pacing look to be your main challenges rather the quality.
  • wuntyate 5 Nov 2016 20:55:27 17,494 posts
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    @rice_sandwich thanks man. And thank you for the advice! I'm enjoying it so far and hope that the plot will reveal itself a bit more to me. I have an inkling so...
  • Deleted user 5 November 2016 21:04:09
    Ive got a good idea. Can someone write a decent story around it and then give me all the money? Or am I too late
  • Deleted user 5 November 2016 21:04:53
    Ha, I have no idea what I'm doing or any considered view about what makes good or bad writing. Everyone on the thread seems to be putting out pretty solid work in a compositional sense. I reckon issues with plot, pacing, structure, ability to keep it interesting are the main issues. Anyone can write a fairly well written story but that doesn't mean it's good. Editing and cutting out the flab and unnecessary parts may be the real skill.
  • Deleted user 5 November 2016 21:07:37
    I very much doubt anyone can write a fairly well written story.
  • Metalfish 5 Nov 2016 21:07:50 9,191 posts
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    Ideas are cheap. Execution is expensive because it's not legal in most countries.
  • Deleted user 5 November 2016 21:13:23
    What about scipts for films? I've never read one but I'd imagine they're a lot easier than novels? And are idea centric.
  • Metalfish 5 Nov 2016 21:21:12 9,191 posts
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    As someone who pretty much writes all the dialogue first and then has to put stuff in around it to prevent it being that chapter from The Broom of The System where Rick Vigorous tells a story to Lenore Beadman for an entire chapter with literally nothing but their dialogue... ...I'd love to give script-writing a go.
  • Deleted user 5 November 2016 21:39:20
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  • Skirlasvoud 5 Nov 2016 23:25:54 4,039 posts
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    I'll re-post what I have somewhere tomorrow, for what it's worth. :-)

    The more I'm working on my project and the more I read up on other's, the more I realize what a world of difference it is. Quite a few rules change when your work is interactive. When I do post it here, I'll have to give people a map through the story to tell them what has changed! :lol:

    Also good that I'm a rebel. From the 2nd onwards, all I've done is code the damn thing to anticipate reader choice and come up with systems.

    Hope people'll have a chance to read it and enjoy it. Like I said, it is pretty different from the other submissions that are just a nice slab of text.
  • Metalfish 6 Nov 2016 21:30:06 9,191 posts
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    I really am writing intolerably slowly, to the point where I'm getting /less/ done than usual. Here's the link again.

    I have, however, just tied up a story beat I dropped 110000 words back, which I'm irrationally pleased by, since I more or less make it up as I go along without much care for where it's all going.
  • BearFishPie 6 Nov 2016 21:51:35 837 posts
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    Thanks to family time, fatigue, Pandemic and Big Trouble in Little China I've managed about 700 words all weekend. A success it has not been, but at least I had fun.
  • BearFishPie 6 Nov 2016 21:52:22 837 posts
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    Wine may also have come into it.
  • MetalDog 6 Nov 2016 22:07:52 24,076 posts
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    Day five and Six

    Weekends are my busiest workdays usually, so it's piss all for two days effort. If my rotas remain usual, mon-wed should be slightly better for free time and energy and I'll try to get more reading in before my days off.

    Keep writing, you slackers. Non slackers, well done!

    @Skirlasvoud, my plan with yours is to take a look at it closer to the end when it will be easier to give you constructive criticism on the (complete?) narrative, but I have extensive professional experience bug-hunting if you just want someone to give the mechanics a shoeing.

    PS: Word to the wise - if you have written enough that it would cause you spiritual pain to lose it all and have to start over, back up your work =) This goes triple for anyone not keeping an offsite copy on a blog.

    Edited by MetalDog at 22:15:59 06-11-2016
  • Skirlasvoud 7 Nov 2016 03:24:44 4,039 posts
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    @MetalDog

    Cheers Metaldog!


    I the meantime, my work has made a casualty of my Keyboard's delete key. :| Seriously, you'll never know how many small typing mistakes you're making until your "delete" key bails on you. Damn silicone springs underneath have stopped working. I need to postpone work until I get a replacement. It's agonizing to hit the damn thing with my pinky, only to find an unresponsive piece of plastic with no tactile feedback or on-screen change at all.
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