How do I get rid of Steam's "VR" category? Page 2

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  • Skirlasvoud 5 Nov 2016 23:51:20 4,039 posts
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    neilka wrote:
    It's when your neighbour's dog starts saying "VR" to you that you really have to worry.
    Ah-Hah! It IS saying "VR" to me! Yesterday I spied Gabe Newell all day on his knees trying to teach it. More proof the man is after me!

    Can I rely on your testimony when I sue steam for harassment neilka? You know your stuff!
  • mrpon 6 Nov 2016 07:28:38 37,366 posts
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    Skirlasvoud wrote:
    @Dirtbox

    Do they also have a guy near the entrance putting pork in your trolley?
    Hot
  • FogHeart 6 Nov 2016 11:08:54 1,270 posts
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    Essentially there are two types of collection - ones that are user-generated and games are manually added, and ones that are computer generated by the game obeying certain criteria, such as 'installed' and, well, 'games'. The latter have always been ones you can't delete, and with good reason - if you could, then it's conceivable that you could delete every category and then have no way to see any games in your library!

    Of course it made sense to have VR games automatically go into their own category - let me tell you, when I'm actually in VR and selecting a game then it's very necessary - but it's the first ever criterion-based category that is only useful to certain players. So the code for having this category 'removable' is lacking just because it's never been needed before.

    But look, Valve can be surprisingly agreeable when it comes to changes to the interface. All you have to do is submit the suggestion that the VR category only shows up on systems where SteamVR is installed, or whatver Oculus equivalent there is to that. For my part it does irritate me to have the VR list show up on my laptop. It might happen - not soon, but as we've seen with their tweaking of review system, they take ideas on board eventually.

    Edited by FogHeart at 11:10:10 06-11-2016
  • Dombat 6 Nov 2016 11:30:41 1,918 posts
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    I imagine Valve are being encouraged to highlight to consumers which VR games they own, in the hope it would generate hardware sales and other VR compatible game sales in the future.
  • Stoatboy 6 Nov 2016 13:06:00 116 posts
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    This annoys me too (not as much as some clearly, but still).

    @UncleLou: I have two games in my VR folder, neither of which I bought for that feature. They appear in the main list where I'd expect them to be - why on Earth would I want them listed again? If they did a similar thing for another feature that I have NEVER bought a game for - like Multiplayer - then it would add a huge additional folder to the main list. If they did it for other tags too - it would soon become really annoying.
  • Skirlasvoud 6 Nov 2016 13:29:03 4,039 posts
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    ... Like Steam subdividing games by genre and controller style? M+K, controller recommended, Indie game, Action, RPG, strategy?

    Yup, that'd be a nightmare. I ask myself why steam doesn't do that, but they DO do the "VR" category.

    I imagine Valve are being encouraged to highlight to consumers which VR games they own, in the hope it would generate hardware sales and other VR compatible game sales in the future.
    BINGO!


    I mean, if you select the top heading "Library", you can already switch between music, games, VR, software.

    Why doesn't Steam resign VR titles to just that option? Why does the Category HAVE TO BE smack dab in the middle of games? Why doesn't it organise for similar controller styles as well, like Controller and Mouse and Key?

    Advertisement is why.

    *Mumbles something about the pull of microtransactions again*
  • ARumFellow 6 Nov 2016 13:39:06 253 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    @Skirlasvoud I think you're exaggerating, massively. It's just a little, unobtrusive thing to keep the VR games *you already have* out of the main category. It's not a ploy to sell a Vive to you.
    I think it is definitely a nudge in the direction of "well, I have some VR-capable games, why not buy a headset?"

    It's exactly what I would do as a complete and utter bastard.
  • ARumFellow 6 Nov 2016 13:39:59 253 posts
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    Gremmoo wrote:
    Guys I went to the library and they had Stephen King books in horror AND in fiction should I burn the library down
    Guys I came back to my home and on my living room shelf my DVDs were organised in categories that I couldn't change.

    Edited by ARumFellow at 13:41:47 06-11-2016
  • ARumFellow 6 Nov 2016 13:41:24 253 posts
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    I had the VR category pop up but thankfully it was for a game I didn't want to play so I could just hide that game.

    When the VR category comes up again as it includes a game or games I *do* want to play then I will be very slightly miffed by it.
  • UncleLou Moderator 6 Nov 2016 13:54:51 40,723 posts
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    ARumFellow wrote:
    Gremmoo wrote:
    Guys I went to the library and they had Stephen King books in horror AND in fiction should I burn the library down
    Guys I came back to my home and on my living room shelf my DVDs were organised in categories that I couldn't change.
    Guys *I* bought a DVD the other day, and it has the subtitles in multiple langauages, and I just *can't* get rid of the Czech and Polish option in the menu, although I'll never use them. It's a ploy to make me learn foreign languages, I tell you.
  • Skirlasvoud 6 Nov 2016 15:18:43 4,039 posts
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    @UncleLou

    Hehehe, this actually getting kinda fun! I like metaphores.

    I'd counter with a metaphore where the subtitles are in three different languages below the screen throughout the entire movie, but since the movie is the game in this allegory, the category has stopped bothering me past that. :-P

    I guess this indicates that you and I have a different relationship with our Steam Library. You see it as the settings menu: an afterthought as long as you get to start the game.

    I see it as my garden. I am a collector. Yes I could plop down there and have a beer regardless, like you probably would have, but part of my enjoyment comes from the fact that I make gardening and those surroundings into an hobby. If I see a weed, I want it plucked, where you might be less inclined.


    Enough with the Metaphores though.

    Let's just agree on one thing though. I have a personal quibble, and I sought help. Yes, silly little problem that I perhaps, shouldn't waste so much time on... but it is equally silly for someone not bothered by it, to speak up and make a whole point out of acting like it's not a big deal. Steam added the problem and could have just as easily avoided it by giving users options. You lose nothing if they give me the ability to switch it off again.

    Allow me the ability to run my garden my way, instead of hang over the fence commenting that I'm getting worked up over nothing when I ask the neighborhood if they've found a solution against that one dandelion I can't seem to kill.


    Thanks for the replies everyone. If nothing, the differences and metaphors are funny. By now I've figured it can't be helped, so, this thread has served its purpose.

    Edited by Skirlasvoud at 15:20:37 06-11-2016
  • Dirtbox 6 Nov 2016 15:19:10 92,595 posts
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  • THFourteen 6 Nov 2016 15:20:53 54,987 posts
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    No need to actively get rid of it, just wait six months or so and it will die of natural causes.
  • Zippity-zap 6 Nov 2016 15:35:54 691 posts
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  • Fake_Blood 6 Nov 2016 16:27:13 11,093 posts
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    How come I have VR games that are not in the VR list?
    I want the VR list on top with regular "old" games on the bottom.
  • Skirlasvoud 6 Nov 2016 18:28:03 4,039 posts
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    @Fake_Blood

    I think you can do that one yourself, fortunatly enough. Steam won't allow you to delete the VR category, but you can make one yourself. I'm happy you guys have the option.

    Right click the game you'd like in its own top list. Click the "set category" option. Then, create your own VR folder! If you want it on top, name it "a VR" or something so it gets alphabetametized.

    Then create another category called "Other games" and put everything else in there. (EDIT: You don't even need to do that. Everything is already in a "Games" directory that you can close.)

    Close the "Games" folder, open the "(a) VR" folder and presto, whenever you start up steam, your VR games are the first to show on top, while everything non-VR is hidden somewhere else.


    Again, happy you guys have that option.

    Edited by Skirlasvoud at 18:30:07 06-11-2016
  • Phattso 6 Nov 2016 18:35:23 27,426 posts
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    Fake_Blood wrote:
    How come I have VR games that are not in the VR list?
    I want the VR list on top with regular "old" games on the bottom.
    There seems to be an issue with some games not being tagged for VR. The Star Wars Tattooine thing was like that, I think, although may be fixed now.

    My list is always sorted by 'recent' anyway - only way to make headway into my backlog without something further down the list tempting me away.
  • Fake_Blood 6 Nov 2016 18:50:03 11,093 posts
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    I was just joking guys. I don't care about the list.
  • Skirlasvoud 6 Nov 2016 18:55:32 4,039 posts
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    @Fake_Blood

    I'm not. Which I guess is in of itself a joke. ;-)
  • Deleted user 7 November 2016 18:19:11
    Put SOME sticky tape onto the screen
  • Skirlasvoud 7 Nov 2016 21:37:20 4,039 posts
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    mAc6 wrote:
    Put SOME sticky tape onto the screen
    Failed to follow instruction exactly and applied a LOT of sticky tape. My monitor is now a ball of sticky tape with a screen in there somewhere. Damn you mAc6 :(
  • charllesferraro 18 Oct 2017 13:58:13 1 posts
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    Hey man, just passing by to say if you ever feel like going to a psychiatrist hit me up on Facebook and I'll gladly hook you up with some contacts of mine that are very good professionals for that kinda shit.

    Don't be afraid. There's treatment for that kind of behavior!
    :lol: :lol:

    Edited by charllesferraro at 13:59:37 18-10-2017
  • Skirlasvoud 18 Oct 2017 14:02:32 4,039 posts
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    So nice of you to necro this thread with your first post on these forums charllesferraro. It must've been obsessively important to you.

    I'd take you up on your offer, but your contacts must not be that good after all!

    Welcome to Eurogamer.
  • THFourteen 18 Oct 2017 14:09:46 54,987 posts
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    THFourteen wrote:
    No need to actively get rid of it, just wait six months or so and it will die of natural causes.
    I would like to revise my estimate
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