| When I was in Lithuania a little while ago they were holding a big Russian Invasion exercise. It was a little weird. They obviously take it seriously, but then again so would you if the last deaths of your citizens at Russian (Soviet) hands were within the last two decades. |
War with Russia? • Page 2
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anephric 5,274 posts
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You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoRhaegyr wrote:
OMG STOP STICKING YOUR HEAD IN THE SANDS!1
LittleSparra wrote:
Bingo.
So this specific moment in time is more dangerous, in all actual contexts and conditions, than world war or the Cuban missile crisis?
Discuss the problems, but don't predicate the discussion on this as if it's useful or insightful. It adds nothing to the conversation.
I don't think anyone disagrees that it's a dangerous time, however catastrophising doesn't really help the discussion. -
the_milkybar_kid 8,474 posts
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Registered 7 years agoTheSaint wrote:
CHA-CHING
We've got Tanya we'll be fine. -
You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
This has been coming from sober, totally matter-of-fact diplomacy and contemporary history experts a lot these days. I sure hope it's hyperbole, but I am not overly optimistic.
Yakyakyo wrote:
This kind of hyperbole really doesn't help anyone.
...experts saying it's the most dangerous time in history.
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Cheerful reading.
You're the ones with the emotional response. It's nothing new, and hardly worth getting worked up about. We've been on the knife edge of destruction for decades, and the way things are going now don't look good.
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Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoRussia has few allies that are powerful enough to be an actual threat on this scale, the hyperbole is unhelpful and does nothing but escalate fear. -
You-can-call-me-kal 23,013 posts
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Registered 15 years agoThe very nature of the sentence is hyperbolas - "in history" is pretty much by definition hyperbole.
I'm not really sure how hand-wringing about just how terribly awful Putin and Trump are really does anything either. Go write a letter to your local MP instead of posting on the internet. 'Active inactivity' is how we got into this mess in the first place. -
disusedgenius 10,677 posts
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Registered 14 years agoI'm not really seeing anything that's taking us as close as, say, the Cuban Missile crisis did a few decades ago. Especially as Trump and Putin seem to get on.
Trump and the South China Sea/Taiwan/Japan/North Korea though, that might get interesting. -
disusedgenius wrote:
Allegedly, even around the Cuban missile crises, the US and the USSR at the time were on better (diplomatic) speaking terms than they are now - which seems to be one of the main problems - they don't talk to each other anymore. US diplomats in Russia get threatened regularly, or not invited to meetings. Russian diplomats got expelled in reaction to that.
I'm not really seeing anything that's taking us as close as, say, the Cuban Missile crisis did a few decades ago. Especially as Trump and Putin seem to get on.
Trump and the South China Sea/Taiwan/Japan/North Korea though, that might get interesting. -
Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoAt least we can have Russians as the bad guys in films instead of muslims. -
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Registered 7 years agoUncleLou wrote:
And America's new man to deal with the issue is a friend of, or at least respected by, Putin. The pumpkin might have actually picked someone that will do some good.
disusedgenius wrote:
Allegedly, even around the Cuban missile crises, the US and the USSR at the time were on better (diplomatic) speaking terms than they are now - which seems to be one of the main problems - they don't talk to each other anymore. US diplomats in Russia get threatened regularly, or not invited to meetings. Russian diplomats got expelled in reaction to that.
I'm not really seeing anything that's taking us as close as, say, the Cuban Missile crisis did a few decades ago. Especially as Trump and Putin seem to get on.
Trump and the South China Sea/Taiwan/Japan/North Korea though, that might get interesting. -
Dougs 100,414 posts
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Registered 18 years agoWho is going to take over from Sean Connery though? -
Not-a-reviewer 7,686 posts
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Registered 7 years agoNicholas Cage.
You know that would be awesome. -
Load_2.0 33,582 posts
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Registered 18 years agoreviewer wrote:
Russian Muslims get a sick Constitution bonus when fighting western citizens.
At least we can have Russians as the bad guys in films instead of muslims.
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rockavitch 1,303 posts
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Registered 11 years agoreviewer wrote:
Thank God. I miss the Russian henchmen. You always knew shit was about to get real with the "Twins" showed up, one a kicker, one a puncher.
At least we can have Russians as the bad guys in films instead of muslims. -
SteveMsater 339 posts
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Registered 6 years agoThis is some top quality scaremongering 10/10 -
SteveMsater wrote:
Tis the season...
This is some top quality scaremongering 10/10 -
Daryoon 5,912 posts
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There will be no direct military conflict with Russia. But in terms of cyber/information/propaganda warfare, Putin has long started attacking NATO and EU. Not to destroy, but to destabilise. The west may have to take up arms on this front. -
General_Martok 2,490 posts
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Registered 5 years agoDirect conflict with Russia is exactly where this should end up.
Enough foreplay let's see just how close we can get to nuclear annihilation in a hot war. -
Rusty_M 7,172 posts
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Registered 14 years agoGeneral_Martok wrote:
This guy must know what he's talking about. He's a general.
Direct conflict with Russia is exactly where this should end up.
Enough foreplay let's see just how close we can get to nuclear annihilation in a hot war. -
shamblemonkee 17,967 posts
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Registered 17 years ago@DrStrangelove already happening. Announcements this week on new cyber centre and so on -
Who do you think China would side with?
Or would they just sit back, watch it all unfold and then pick up the pieces to rule everybody?
🤔
This all makes me think of the dominion war with the Gamma quadrant power on one side and the alpha quadrant (federation, romulans and klingons) on the other.
https://youtu.be/Pr5kQrXI0rk
Edited by pacrifice at 19:38:24 16-12-2016 -
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Professor, without knowing the details of these actual events, would you say it is time for us to crack open each others heads and feast on the goo inside? -
It's too early to tell, but it's a strategy we should keep up our sleeve just in case -
I've read some Tom Clancy so feel uniquely qualified to say this, but wouldnt America soundly beat Russia in a conventional war?
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