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  • mal 2 Jan 2017 21:59:11 29,326 posts
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    I still use youtube to find out what things sound like before I buy them, either FLAC or on CD (which I then rip to FLAC).
  • ModoX 3 Jan 2017 07:49:06 3,480 posts
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    OmniaVincitAmor wrote:
    Finally considering after all these years of ipod classic to switch. However I'm confused. If I have an offline playlist on Spotify how can my missus access that. If she logs on as me on her phone will that offline playlist be available to her too. I don't get it.
    Setting a playlist as offline just tells Spotify to download it to that specific device so you can play it without using data, or when you don't have signal. If your missus logs onto her phone as you then she can play any music same as you would, and mark any to download to her phone, the same playlists as you or different ones.

    You can't listen to the same account on two devices at once though, so if you wanted to both be able to listen at the same time you'd need to look at the family account.
  • Deleted user 3 January 2017 07:53:31
    How do you rip to FLAC user Mal
  • neilka 3 Jan 2017 08:00:27 24,021 posts
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  • Rivuzu 3 Jan 2017 09:07:58 18,424 posts
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    mal wrote:
    I still use youtube to find out what things sound like before I buy them, either FLAC or on CD (which I then rip to FLAC).
    That's not how that works. At all.
  • Not-a-reviewer 3 Jan 2017 09:19:41 7,686 posts
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    Yes it is.
  • ModoX 3 Jan 2017 09:23:33 3,480 posts
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    Uh oh, this is about to turn into a borefest of technical arguments about audio formats.

    *jumps overboard*
  • Not-a-reviewer 3 Jan 2017 09:43:25 7,686 posts
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    I don't see why. You can rip CDs to flac then listen to them.
  • Deleted user 3 January 2017 09:48:56
    Play Music, supplemented with Bandcamp and physical media.

    Play Music is surprisingly good even for my pretty niche tastes. There are a few metal labels like Profound Lore and Nuclear War Now! that won't support streaming services as a matter of principle, but otherwise it's a fine service.
  • THFourteen 3 Jan 2017 09:49:07 54,987 posts
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    I think you're taking a bit too much flac
  • TheDarkKnight 3 Jan 2017 09:57:23 834 posts
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    I normally stick with Spotify because it has remote play therefore I can change tracks on my hi-fi or PS4 from my phone which is really convenient. If (when?) Google Music adds that feature I'll swap to them, I prefer the cleaner interface and app. I got 3 months Spotify for £9.99 a month ago, and Google Music app just offered me 4 free months the other day, so I'm set for a while.
  • dmj 3 Jan 2017 10:09:28 1,081 posts
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    Google Play Music, which is reasonably priced and actually works. My wife still buys random tracks for 99p from Amazon, which I think is madness given how cheap most streaming services are. I haven't tried any others, to be honest (bar the free Apple Music trial). I still buy CDs, though usually only for bands I still have an attachment to.
  • Rivuzu 3 Jan 2017 20:36:46 18,424 posts
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    @reviewer you can, but gain no benefit.

    What's the point of converting a compressed audio into an uncompressed format? You're not undoing the compression already done. You're just getting the audio exactly as it is on the CD.

    Edit: wait, was your post sarcastic? :D

    Edited by Rivuzu at 20:38:35 03-01-2017
  • Deleted user 3 January 2017 20:48:07
    @Rivuzu FLAC is for lossless compression, so you can store CD quality audio in less space. You get exactly the same sound in half (random guess) the space.
  • Not-a-reviewer 3 Jan 2017 20:53:09 7,686 posts
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    Not sure if rivuzu is being deliberately stupid or not tbh.
  • OmniaVincitAmor 3 Jan 2017 22:01:29 2,375 posts
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    Went for Google music. So you can't download songs only albums? Strange. Or am I an idiot?
  • UncleLou Moderator 3 Jan 2017 22:37:56 40,723 posts
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    Rivuzu wrote:
    @reviewer you can, but gain no benefit.

    You're just getting the audio exactly as it is on the CD
    No benefit compared to ... what? Ripping to MP3, a format where you DON'T get the audio exactly as it is on CD?
  • Deleted user 3 January 2017 22:46:26
    @OmniaVincitAmor seems like you might have to add things to a playlist, then download the playlist. Bit of a ballache potentially.
  • Rivuzu 3 Jan 2017 23:31:14 18,424 posts
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    Might have the wrong end of the stick. I assumed he was specifically ripping the CD to FLAC for quality reasons (as in my mind, I just equate FLAC to studio perfect recording). Woops.
  • chopsen 4 Jan 2017 00:44:34 21,958 posts
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    Rivuzu wrote:
    I assumed he was specifically ripping the CD to FLAC for quality reasons .
    He is. Instead or ripping to MP3 which is a lossy format.

    Edited by chopsen at 00:58:59 04-01-2017
  • ModoX 4 Jan 2017 08:10:24 3,480 posts
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    If you get a family plan it's only £14.99, so £5 extra for the second account.
  • UncleLou Moderator 4 Jan 2017 08:28:24 40,723 posts
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    chopsen wrote:
    Rivuzu wrote:
    I assumed he was specifically ripping the CD to FLAC for quality reasons .
    He is. Instead or ripping to MP3 which is a lossy format.
    I can't shake the feeling that we're moving in circles here.

    Anyway, I use Spotify. Apple Music had better recommendations, but messes with my library. I want stuff I own and stuff I don't own clearly separated.
  • mal 4 Jan 2017 16:04:55 29,326 posts
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    chopsen wrote:
    Rivuzu wrote:
    I assumed he was specifically ripping the CD to FLAC for quality reasons .
    He is. Instead or ripping to MP3 which is a lossy format.
    Well, strictly speaking I am ripping them to flac so that after admiring the CD artwork I can shove them in a box and eventually stick that in the loft with all of my other CDs. But beyond that I can now retranscode those files to something lossy to listen to on devices with constrained hardware, while maintaining the ability to retranscode them to more advanced codecs as they become developed, without losing any quality, and without having to hoof dozens of boxes out of storage.

    @PES Since you ask, as I'm using an old desktop machine to do my ripping that's fast enough to do the transcoding, but shit at doing graphics, I looked for a command line ripper/transcoder, but couldn't find one. So I rolled my own using cdparanoia to rip the tracks, the reference flacenc to encode them and python cddb bindings to label the tracks after some manual fixing.

    I had started using a portable drive hooked up to this laptop, and IIRC a program called Asunder to to the job, but I found it skipped all over the shop if I moved the setup while it was working, which was a PITA since I didn't find out until I tried listening back to everything.

    Edit: Back to the OP, my friends use spotify. I find it doesn't carry the latest stuff I'm listening to at home, but if I think back about six months to a year, it's mostly there.

    Edited by mal at 16:08:10 04-01-2017
  • ModoX 4 Jan 2017 17:00:52 3,480 posts
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    ... I think you might have too much time on your hands :)

    When was the last time you were browsing Spotify? It used to get a lot of stuff late, but nowadays it seems to have no delay for anything I listen to, outside of stupid Tidal/Apple exclusives.
  • chopsen 4 Jan 2017 17:11:53 21,958 posts
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    UncleLou wrote:
    I want stuff I own and stuff I don't own clearly separated.
    I do wonder if this distinction will become less of a thing, with people growing up with streaming services being the norm and owning recording of stuff being a bit antiquated.

    Yeah, I know about the resurgence in vinyl and all that. Despite that it's still a niche interest when looked at the perspective of the music listening public as a whole.

    There is a convenience in owning music I think which still trumps streaming, which isn't quite ubiquitous enough to make up the difference yet. Or maybe I'm just an old man.

    Edited by chopsen at 17:12:10 04-01-2017
  • twelveways 4 Jan 2017 17:14:47 7,131 posts
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    How does Kodi work? Can I watch tv from around the world for free?
  • ModoX 4 Jan 2017 17:17:13 3,480 posts
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    Having had a Spotify premium sub for 4 or 5 years now, I think you quickly get used to that distinction meaning nothing. I think CDs might still exist somewhere in my house. And I maybe have an old PC with lots of CDs ripped onto it. But I just listen to music, I get excited for a new album coming out and try it on release, and if it's good I listen, if not I move on to something else. When music gets released and isn't available it's very jarring - my brain has fully converted to the idea that I'm allowed to listen to all the music all the time, however I want.
  • chopsen 4 Jan 2017 17:30:58 21,958 posts
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    I was very much in that mindset at home when I had spotify as I listen to everything via Sonos so it really didn't matter.

    But then you go abroad and realise you don't have any music to listen to. Or you just get in the car and you've got to fuckarse about with your phone.
  • UncleLou Moderator 4 Jan 2017 17:35:50 40,723 posts
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    I love the many possibilities of Spotify and the like, but I buy basically all the music I *really* like. I've completely given up buying films because I care less about them, but when it comes to music, I don't want to depend on a service that can disappear anytime. I also like to support the artists when I can, and there's still a ton of stuff that never appears on any streaming services.

    But yeah, the distinction will become more and more meaningless for many people. But I want to know which music I still can listen to when the internet explodes. :)
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