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Dandy11 5 Oct 2019 18:37:48 132 posts
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Skynet will no longer exist it's been replaced.

https://amp.cinemablend.com/news/2481646/terminator-dark-fates-skynet-replacement-has-been-revealed

Edited by Dandy11 at 18:38:19 05-10-2019

creepiest-lizard 5 Oct 2019 20:45:26 2,977 posts
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I just don't get this film. Is there any interest at all in a new Terminator film? The old people like me have no interest and the youngsters barely even know what it is

Decks 5 Oct 2019 20:53:00 31,013 posts
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I think they still make a fair bit of money. Despite the last good one being made 28 years ago.

creepiest-lizard 5 Oct 2019 21:10:15 2,977 posts
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Bloody hell, I just looked it up and that Genisys shite was the second most successful film in the franchise.
I was totally wrong and we're all doomed

You-can-call-me-kal 6 Oct 2019 09:44:53 23,013 posts
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If you adjust for inflation I strongly suspect not. Gone with the Wind is still actually the most successful film of all time.

Decks 6 Oct 2019 09:49:17 31,013 posts
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Ta daa

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/franchises/chart/?id=terminator.htm

Rank Title (click to view) Studio Gross / Theaters Opening / Theaters Date
1 Terminator 2: Judgment Day TriS $204,843,345 2,495 $31,765,506 2,274 7/3/91
2 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines WB $150,371,112 3,504 $44,041,440 3,504 7/2/03
3 Terminator Salvation WB $125,322,469 3,602 $42,558,390 3,530 5/21/09
4 Terminator: Genisys Par. $89,760,956 3,783 $27,018,486 3,758 7/1/15
5 The Terminator Orion $38,371,200 1,112 $4,020,663 1,005 10/26/84
TOTAL: $608,669,082 - - - -
AVERAGE: $121,733,816 2,899 $29,880,897 2,814 -

Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation
Rank Title (click to view) Studio Adjusted Gross Unadjusted Gross Release
1 Terminator 2: Judgment Day TriS $438,393,900 $204,843,345 7/3/91
2 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines WB $224,683,900 $150,371,112 7/2/03
3 Terminator Salvation WB $151,361,300 $125,322,469 5/21/09
4 The Terminator Orion $102,267,500 $38,371,200 10/26/84
5 Terminator: Genisys Par. $98,029,900 $89,760,956 7/1/15
TOTAL: $1,014,736,500 $608,669,082 -
AVERAGE: $202,947,300 $121,733,816 -

Worldwide (Unadjusted)
Rank Title (click to view) Studio Worldwide Domestic / % Overseas / % Year
1 Terminator 2: Judgment Day TriS $519.8 $204.8 39.4% $315.0 60.6% 1991
2 Terminator: Genisys Par. $440.6 $89.8 20.4% $350.8 79.6% 2015
3 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines WB $433.4 $150.4 34.7% $283.0 65.3% 2003
4 Terminator Salvation WB $371.4 $125.3 33.7% $246.0 66.3% 2009
5 The Terminator Orion $78.4 $38.4 49% $40.0 51% 1984
6 Terminator 2 (2017) Par. n/a n/a - n/a - 2100
TOTAL: $1,843.5 $608.7 33.0% $1,234.9 67.0% -
AVERAGE: $307.3 $101.4 33.0% $205.8 67.0% -

Edited by Decks at 09:49:38 06-10-2019

Dandy11 6 Oct 2019 10:34:11 132 posts
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@creepiest-lizard I would have said no after genesis. but as the original writer and director James Cameron is involved. I have a lot of hope. Especially as terminator 3, salvation and genesis no longer exist.

Edited by Dandy11 at 10:34:29 06-10-2019

Lukus 6 Oct 2019 14:10:59 24,639 posts
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Genysis walked up to the graves of T1 and T2, pulled down its pants, took a massive streaming dump, then turned around and proceded to spunk all over the shitty mess, all the while screaming "I have zero respect for you cunts" at the top of its voice.

creepiest-lizard 6 Oct 2019 14:20:18 2,977 posts
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@Dandy11
Yeah, but its not Terminator 1, Aliens Cameron. Its fucking Titanic and Avatar Cameron.
The older these types of directors get and the more films they make the more I'm convinced their earlier good, genre creating films were complete flukes or they had some other creative person around them that helped make them good.
Look at Alien and then look at Alien covenant..
Ridley Scott has made more bad films than good

Edited by creepiest-lizard at 14:21:11 06-10-2019

anephric 6 Oct 2019 14:23:04 5,274 posts
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Cameron's absolutely zeppelin-sized ego might have had something to do with it, but then when everything you do is boffo box office, I imagine I would believe the hype about myself.

I'm not sure what happened to Ridley Scott outside of he was always a visual stylist absolutely at the mercy of his source material: if it was shit, he just made pretty shit.

JamboWayOh 6 Oct 2019 14:24:59 25,236 posts
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Lukus wrote:
Genysis walked up to the graves of T1 and T2, pulled down its pants, took a massive streaming dump, then turned around and proceded to spunk all over the shitty mess, all the while screaming "I have zero respect for you cunts" at the top of its voice.

So you're saying you're not a fan of Genysis? You'll need to be more explicitl.

You-can-call-me-kal 6 Oct 2019 14:29:42 23,013 posts
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Nothing�s changed with Scott. Give him a good script and he makes a good film. The Martian was very good and All the Money in the World was decent.

creepiest-lizard 6 Oct 2019 14:48:04 2,977 posts
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@You-can-call-me-kal
The Martian was better than I was expecting but I don't think I've liked anything he's done after it or quite a bit before.
and I think you could say alot has changed with him if you compare Bladerunner or Alien to The Counseller, Exodus, robin hood, prometheus, american gangster..all rubbish.
In my humble, of course

Edited by creepiest-lizard at 14:48:40 06-10-2019

You-can-call-me-kal 6 Oct 2019 14:49:31 23,013 posts
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American Gangster is a good film.

Again, good source material. It really is as simple as that.

Lukus 6 Oct 2019 14:56:01 24,639 posts
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I LIKED PROMETHEUS

*sits back*

creepiest-lizard 6 Oct 2019 14:57:25 2,977 posts
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Lukus wrote:
I LIKED PROMETHEUS

*sits back*

Visually great. Nonsensical plot

Lukus 6 Oct 2019 15:01:25 24,639 posts
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I LIKED THE PLOT

creepiest-lizard 6 Oct 2019 15:02:26 2,977 posts
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@Lukus
Ha. I don't believe you

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So that's how we're playing it eh? Okay.

I LIKED SALT BETTER THAN TAKEN!

Bambot 7 Oct 2019 13:58:04 2,076 posts
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creepiest-lizard wrote:
@You-can-call-me-kal
The Martian was better than I was expecting but I don't think I've liked anything he's done after it or quite a bit before.
and I think you could say alot has changed with him if you compare Bladerunner or Alien to The Counseller, Exodus, robin hood, prometheus, american gangster..all rubbish.
In my humble, of course

Excellent source material, excellent script that he didn't write.

So, what exactly DID he do for that film then? The visuals, that's about it.

In fact one of the fun little gags in the source and the script, the reference to LOTR, he wanted to remove. And apparently actual studio execs had to intervene and say "no mate, that's a well loved bit, leave it in".

I seriously doubt Scott has much going for him than visuals. The art of placing the camera in the right place at the right time. He has no head for script or story, whatsoever.

Bambot 7 Oct 2019 13:59:26 2,076 posts
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creepiest-lizard wrote:

Lukus wrote:
I LIKED PROMETHEUS

*sits back*
Visually great. Nonsensical plot

Classic Ridley Scott. If he's writing the material, or it's being written by an idiot (LINDELOOOOOF!!!) all you can hope for is a nice looking movie.

Bambot 7 Oct 2019 13:59:51 2,076 posts
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You-can-call-me-kal wrote:
American Gangster is a good film.

Again, good source material. It really is as simple as that.

Yarp.

Deleted user 7 October 2019 19:36:03

I know shit films have had major product placement in the past, but Terminator Dark Fate is going hard in the paint with dlc Arnie as T-800 in Mortal Kombat 11, and Sarah Connor and T-800 skeleton in Gears 5.

Edit- my point being that maybe it's actually not bad, or at least the studio believes in it.

Edited by racing_fan at 19:39:18 07-10-2019

Decks 7 Oct 2019 19:56:40 31,013 posts
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The "imax exclusive" action scene they showed before Joker was actually pretty cool. They've essentially completely redone the highway chase thing they released first. Still not sure about the decision to get Eartha Kitt to white up for the role of Sarah Conner though.

JamboWayOh 7 Oct 2019 20:49:13 25,236 posts
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racing_fan wrote:
I know shit films have had major product placement in the past, but Terminator Dark Fate is going hard in the paint with dlc Arnie as T-800 in Mortal Kombat 11, and Sarah Connor and T-800 skeleton in Gears 5.

Edit- my point being that maybe it's actually not bad, or at least the studio believes in it.

I think they're putting Edward Furlong skin masks with every Happy Meal.

JYM60 7 Oct 2019 20:54:12 19,085 posts
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Rewatched both T1 and T2 in the last month so quietly looking forward to this.

I hope that they actually have a good story in this. I forgot how actually great T2 is storywise, with great acting. Just hope the new one isn't going from one action set piece to the next, which is a worry.

spindle9988 7 Oct 2019 22:46:49 5,222 posts
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Lukus wrote:
I LIKED PROMETHEUS

*sits back*

I hated this film so much when I first watched it. My brain has deleted it and I couldn�t even tell you anything specific about it now.....I love my brain.

beastmaster 10 Oct 2019 14:37:54 22,373 posts
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15 rated. 128 mins in length.

Not long now. I predict a 6/10 at best.

Deleted user 10 October 2019 14:42:46

JYM60 wrote:
I forgot how actually great T2 is storywise, with great acting.

Yeah it's just so brilliantly made, in every aspect. I also love those atmospheric sounds that accompany the both Terminators like leitmotifs, a very effective... effect. I recently watched an analysis of T2 (especially on the story) which highlights just how much thought and attention went into it, and how it's so much more than just an action movie which it's often mistaken for.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2YWeJ22mIlE

Edited by DrStrangelove at 14:47:09 10-10-2019

The-Bodybuilder 18 Oct 2019 22:50:53 17,871 posts
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The thing with this new direction is it suffers the same sins as Genysis, in that it permanently nixes what everyone loved; the impending apocalyptic future.

I await to be surprised, but I doubt the dread of the future in this will match the original 2, but this future re-write just means any sequels will all just follow the terminator chase template, swapping round whatever characters they want and whatever new AI antagonist they want.

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